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Really looking forward to both iOS5 and Lion of course... but.

I know I am likely way off base and dreaming, but if the cloud service was like Netflix for music where I could pay $9.99/mo and listen to any and all music I wanted, and could download the track to burn to CD for .19 more... I would be all over that.
 
Why local cloud? Just because of the other rumour article?

Cant see it being this personally as it will be a huge disappointment for mot people. Who the hell has Time Capsules? I know people have em but the percentage must be tiny!!

I agree that the percentage of Time Capsule owners is small, and that it may not be - the for lack of a better word - "sexiest" way to do a cloud. However, a local cloud on Time Capsule seems to solve two not-insignificant hurdles. First, if Apple stores our illegal music, movies and TV shows in the cloud and allows us to stream them, they could have trouble. Second, Apple knows people have some reluctance for a subscription, because even if it is nominal, as soon as you stop paying it, poof - the stuff is gone. A one-time purchase of hardware - Time Capsule - could solve both of those.

Anyway, that's just my guess.

It leaves open the question, however, of why the heck did Apple pay $150 million to the labels the other day? My guess is that the local cloud/Time Capsule is true, and that when the labels said, "Hey, Apple, what about John Doe's friends accessing his music through his Time Capsule?" Apple said, hey, how about $150 million to go away. ;)
 
whatever limited infrastructure for networking they had 30 or even 10 or 20 years ago, wasn't the cloud that's for sure. I don't think the cloud is marketing speak, it is a buzzword for sure, but it's not a vapid one, like say web 2.0 (and a silly one for that matter). It means a lot because this cloud, this incarnation of networking with very fast internet servers that aggregate mail too, and sync, is indeed something novel, despite sharing common heritage with other networking technologies.

Uh ? Are you throwing vapid marketing at me ? The infrastructure behind the Internet was all invented 30-40 years ago and was pretty much in place and hasn't changed by the end of the 80s. The 90s saw the WWW emerge and then... well... nothing.

We had online storage, DNS, E-mail and all that crap back then. Putting up a Web 2.0 (now that is a bad marketing term for what is essentially xmlHttpRequest). Cloud computing is just a term for thinclient computing over the Internet. Online applications, online storage, online whatever. "Do something we use to do on our computer, only over the Internet".

If you really believe any of this is new, I have a bridge I can sell you. ;)
 
People get excited for different things because people have different likes, personalities and wants. A strange concept that not everyone in the world is like you, I know, but that's how things are.

Seriously?

Do you get excited by Windows service pack update?

Do you get excited by a Samsung, Sony Ericsson update? I use to get a few extra features from SE it was nice but nothing like "wow".

So they add wiglets..wow, they add Twitter wow..I can check that online anyway. :p
 
What data (documents, photographs, music, movies, TV shows) of yours will be allowed in the cloud?

Everything.

first of all, great write up and a lot of good predictions.

but this prediction is the one i doubt the most, because it's the one i want the most. I am really fearing that only itunes purchases will be allowed in the cloud. That's just apple's style... anybody care to give me a reason to think otherwise?

(besides: it's what everyone wants)
 
iCloud == the new iTunes.

This makes perfect sense! It would mean liberating all the iDevices from the need to ever hook up to a computer. People with modest computing needs could just get an iPad and that's it.

Except that iPads can't download files that aren't from one of apples 3 stores :p ....which I guess will diminish music piraters..
 
Ohhhh... good idea. I forgot that Apple just got all the music labels on-board for a 2nd time...

If that's true... it kinda makes Google's and Amazon's locker service look... well... like a locker service.

iTunes streaming from the cloud... sounds good to me.

These positive comments about iCloud will not be tolerated.
 
Seriously?

Do you get excited by Windows service pack update?

Do you get excited by a Samsung, Sony Ericsson update? I use to get a few extra features from SE it was nice but nothing like "wow".

So they add wiglets..wow, they add Twitter wow..I can check that online anyway. :p

I don't personally care about Windows. But you know what ? The Windows admins sitting a few cubicles down do get excited for Windows Service packs and usually can't wait to try out and check the list of fixes.

Sony Ericsson recently introduced the Xperia Play and I was pretty excited with what they were planning. I was kind of let down by the hardware after the official announcement though.

Again, people have different wants, needs and personalities and get excited for different things. While this might not appeal to you, it does for others. If we were all the same, life would be quite boring don't you agree ?
 
first of all, great write up and a lot of good predictions.

but this prediction is the one i doubt the most, because it's the one i want the most. I am really fearing that only itunes purchases will be allowed in the cloud. That's just apple's style... anybody care to give me a reason to think otherwise?

(besides: it's what everyone wants)

Thanks for the nod.

I think you'll be able to backup "everything" because it is staying at your house, so to speak. It simply goes into a new piece of hardware in your house. Therefore, Apple doesn't care one way or another what goes into it - pictures, video, music, legal, illegal - because Apple's hands are clean. They aren't actually storing your stuff on their site. But that theory leaves open two questions. How will you access all that stuff on this new hardware device/Time Capsule? Can you access all of it? As for the first question, I say 3G and wi-fi. As for the second, you can only access video on wi-fi (except, of course, for those people with jailbroken phones).
 
Cloud sounds cool BUT.....

So services like iCloud and Amazon's cloud music service sound cool and all but how does constantly streaming your music or information affect your data plan (if you aren't fortunate enough to have the unlimited plan)? Of course I suppose you could always just use it on WiFi.
 
Uh ? Are you throwing vapid marketing at me ? The infrastructure behind the Internet was all invented 30-40 years ago and was pretty much in place and hasn't changed by the end of the 80s. The 90s saw the WWW emerge and then... well... nothing.

We had online storage, DNS, E-mail and all that crap back then. Putting up a Web 2.0 (now that is a bad marketing term for what is essentially xmlHttpRequest). Cloud computing is just a term for thinclient computing over the Internet. Online applications, online storage, online whatever. "Do something we use to do on our computer, only over the Internet".

If you really believe any of this is new, I have a bridge I can sell you. ;)

You don't get it. It's not just a buzz word, it's a paradigm shift. I still do not agree that despite the many parallels to previous services, technologies, etc. it doesnt have discernible differences, big ones.
 
This is Apple, but even Apple can't swallow a piece that big. Maybe we will see Lion released today or at least in june (i doubt that), but iOS no way we will see a final version, just a dev preview (as it always was before).

They always had a new phone to. The times are a changing, so we can't go by the past.
 
I work in the DoD IT space, and hear "Cloud" thrown around far too much even there.
It could be remote storage and streaming, server computing (thin client relationship), or application pushing (virtualization) to some extent. I totally agree with you that its become a prominent market buzzword...and often used haphazardly.

Im not sure if "thin client" computing is an appropriate term...nobody's heard any rumor that Apple will be performing application hosting (like OnLive or something) , but we'll see.

Anyways, Im one of these 10GB of iTunes Music Library types anyways...32GB iP4 and iPad2 are never really full.

All I know is, I know nothing:)

Man, I am so tired of "cloud" computing buzz too! It did good at only getting clueless people to us a term they still know little about... They brought it up so much at my company with such I'll informed information... I sent an email to my fellow it team and we all agreed to kill that word in the office... Just a buzz word...

Dang off topic... I am looking forward to both nintendo and apple's event today. Both companies have disappointed me with their "ways" but those ways are making them lots of money... So if what they have up their sleeves is good, I will be happy if no, well sad :(

All I care for is how good ios5 will be... I hate ITunes and the only good news will be that iOS devices are no longer tethered to it... Any form of iTunes for that matter... As far as OSx, I am happy with snow leopard... But will probably get snow leopard just because I like shiney new stuff. As far as any other hardware like time machine.... Not interested at all.

In lighter news, I hope Steve Jobs looks well... I may not like all things apple, but I love all people.... Sad to see what he is going through and I hope some weight has been regained and he is still going strong :):):apple:
 
You don't get it. It's not just a buzz word, it's a paradigm shift. I still do not agree that despite the many parallels to previous services, technologies, etc. it doesnt have discernible differences, big ones.

No, I don't get it, because I don't get hipster marketing lingo. I do manage this technology day in and day out though, these "Internet Cloud Servers" and I do indeed see that my job hasn't changed, nor has my infrastructure really. I'm still managing the same Unix boxes with the same Unix daemons doing the same tasks they were always doing, only now, they are "The Cloud". :D

It's quite funny seeing marketing/management types getting all hyped up and buying what they already own again just because Gartner said this "cloud" thing was in.

"We built this Web 2.0 Cloud service" to me just means I have a new Apache server with SAN based storage and incoming connections on a new virtual host and that I must make sure it can talk to the Oracle server sitting in the protected DMZ segment.
 
So services like iCloud and Amazon's cloud music service sound cool and all but how does constantly streaming your music or information affect your data plan (if you aren't fortunate enough to have the unlimited plan)? Of course I suppose you could always just use it on WiFi.

on andriod through the native Amazon app you have the option to download to your phone any of the music in your cloud drive. so while you can stream it, you don't have to.

(you do on iphone because it isn't native, but that is a vendor issue)

the hope would be that we could download from iCloud to iPhone in a similar manner. streaming is nice, but i suspect that seamless syncing of the music on your phone is more of apple's style.

(side note: i love amazon's cloud player)
 
I think I'll just stick with cloud. :D

And I'll stick with ThinClient computing. ;) That's what I was raised on. (and yet others will stick with Dumb Terminals, as that is what they were raised on). I even remember everyone laughing at Scott McNealy when he proclaimed "The Network is the Computer" back in 1998, ushering in this whole age of "cloud" computing as he introduced the NC (Network Computer, a play on PC, Personal Computer. Basically, a thinclient solution).

Here we are 13 years later and now it's hip and in and not completely ridiculous anymore. Now that guy was ahead of his time... if only on a marketing level. Thinclient computing had been around for decades by the time McNealy uttered those words and the people laughing at him weren't laughing at the concept, only at the fact he was talking about something we all already knew about.
 
I am looking forward to both nintendo and apple's event today.

Same here Man, I want to see some sick stuff regarding project cafe. IMO, the consoles have gotten super stale and graphical innovation is non-existent.

For heavens sake, bless the next batch with a decent GPU for once...all this R520 based horsesh*t is keeping devs down.

Make a 2012 console with a GTX 560....with dev optimization, games would be incredible.
 
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