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Skiniftz said:
Oh wow - from a newbie account.. must be taken seriously...

In an unrelated story, Intel and Microsoft will have a joint press conference today to announce that Longhorn will actually be ready to ship by the end of this week and that Intel has 6 GHz Pentium 5 processors ready for immediate delivery... :D :p
 
tYNS said:
Haha. This arguement never dies! :) I totally agree .. but steve logic makes sense too .. it is good to have restrictions in mind when developing software. It does make for better software interfacing to no be dependant on excessive features.

Unfortunately, I just bought a Powerbook and shelled out $20 bucks for a Microsoft Optical Mouse as well. :) Apple should probably consider a after market 2-3 button scrolling mouse as a Build to oder configuration.. They could make an extra few dollars on the side.

Actually : they already do. I bought a Kensington pocket mouse together with my PB G4 !
I do a lot of CAD and really can't cope without the second button (whether this is due to the software design is a different matter, my CAD program just makes a lot of use of the second button).
 
CholEoptera36 said:
Hey everyone's a newbie at some point :mad:
I know.. however it never ceases to surprise me how many newbies suddenly appear with one post only citing information from "a friend" about what Apple will be releasing.

All to be taken with a large pinch of salt!
 
Apple/PC

joeboy_45101 said:
I saved about $500 by going with the iBook. I'd been wanting to make the switch for a long time and the oppurtunity came for me to purchase a laptop. I have nothing but praise for my iBook, and I know that whatever happens today I'm still going to be crazy for Apple. :)

I don't think it's really fair to compare Apple Computers to Dells/Gateways/etc.

I think a better price comparison would be to compare Apple Prices with premium computer manufactures, like IBM.
 
Actually I bet Steve-o himself could take perverse pleasure in signing up here as a newbie and posting the truth.


Noone would believe him.
 
Skiniftz said:
Actually I bet Steve-o himself could take perverse pleasure in signing up here as a newbie and posting the truth.


Noone would believe him.

That's true... however, I have no doubts that the CEO is also under NDA.
 
I guess new displays are a foregone conclusion. I noticed on the Apple Store's "Sale" page that there's no longer any used Apple displays, they were there over the weekend. I'm thinking they took them down and will put them up with slightly lower prices. So anyone who actually wants to buy a big clunky plastic 20" CD for what the new ones SHOULD COST should go there after the keynote.
 
Is there a possibility that Apple could unveil a totally new product that would take over the imac for a cheap price to go up against the cheaper pc market?
 
sinisterdesign said:
here, here. i know it's not on the display topic, but this is still a topic that really chaffs my a$$. WHY a one button mouse, steve??!? i worked at apple for a while and was in an internal meeting (when they were intro-ing the G4) and someone asked him if we/they would ever produce a 2-button mouse. steve said it was a "failure of software design" to need more than one button.

yeah, it's MUCH easier to CTRL-click w/ my other hand and scroll by clicking on a 32x32pix button. give it a rest, steve. i'm tired of shelling out another $40 to microsoft everytime i buy a new Mac.


No, Steve is right. It is a failure of software design to require two buttons on a mouse. In other words, if the software was designed correctly and intuitively one button should only be needed to use the software in a quick and efficient way. The only reason apple has the ctrl-click is for poor developers who can't seem to grasp the art of software requiring only a single button. And that's a fact. The single-button mouse is much more ergonomic and intuitive.
 
Has anybody thought that maybe some shrewd marketing person over at Konfabulator made up the screen shots? Konfabulator certainly are getting a lot of coverage today? Especially with everybody referring to the (alleged) Apple screen shots being inferior to K?

Just a thought.
 
Jmitch said:
No, Steve is right. It is a failure of software design to require two buttons on a mouse. In other words, if the software was designed correctly and intuitively one button should only be needed to use the software in a quick and efficient way. The only reason apple has the ctrl-click is for poor developers who can't seem to grasp the art of software requiring only a single button. And that's a fact. The single-button mouse is much more ergonomic and intuitive.

I'm sorry, but as I've stated before : Apple is not running the software market. Many Applications out there require (or function better) with the 2-button mouse. I think Apple must go along with the facts, and the ease of use of as many applications as possible, instead of stubbornly sticking to their own ideals.
 
chrislyon30 said:
Well as we all know, Steve Jobs is a man of his word. Apple computers have been trying hard to keep its upcoming hardwre and software from the rumors site because it does hurt Apple sales and Marketing strategy.

I have a very close friend that works at Apple, and he let me onto something today. Apple has planned to release 3Ghz Powermac G5 that would start shipping at the end of the fall season, around Christmas Time.

The Dual 3 Ghz Powermac G5 will cost 3999.99$ and will feature the X800 Pro or X800XT graphic Card. It will also feature the 10,000 rpm Serial ATA hard Drive with also the DUAL LAYER Superdrive.

Also Apple have already designed the Iamc G5 and The powerbook G5. This one will now feature a full size 99 keys keyboard like the one found on 17" Hewlett Packard laptop.


Whaaaaaaatt ??? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
chrislyon30 said:
Well as we all know, Steve Jobs is a man of his word. Apple computers have been trying hard to keep its upcoming hardwre and software from the rumors site because it does hurt Apple sales and Marketing strategy.

I have a very close friend that works at Apple, and he let me onto something today. Apple has planned to release 3Ghz Powermac G5 that would start shipping at the end of the fall season, around Christmas Time.

The Dual 3 Ghz Powermac G5 will cost 3999.99$ and will feature the X800 Pro or X800XT graphic Card. It will also feature the 10,000 rpm Serial ATA hard Drive with also the DUAL LAYER Superdrive.

Also Apple have already designed the Iamc G5 and The powerbook G5. This one will now feature a full size 99 keys keyboard like the one found on 17" Hewlett Packard laptop.

I doubt it, on the other hand, this could be the reason why the new PM 2.5 w/ liquid cooling was released silently. Secondly, it's not impossible we will see 3.0 GHz at Christmas.
 
ts1973 said:
I'm sorry, but as I've stated before : Apple is not running the software market. Many Applications out there require (or function better) with the 2-button mouse. I think Apple must go along with the facts, and the ease of use of as many applications as possible, instead of stubbornly sticking to their own ideals.

Apple sticks to what they believe. That's what makes them such a great company. They don't just change based on what the rest of the market is doing. Like most other companies...

I personally agree with the single-button concept and think others developers should see the benefit of a single-button mouse and follow Apple. I think they will, as they have already started to.
 
Sit back and watch!

I'm a fan of Apple's products, and let me say straight out that I have NO CLUE as to what Apple is going to release.
But on that note, I will say that I have switched from PC to Mac when the Graphite G4 came out, and I have never, ever looked back.
Since then, my wife and I have bought a TiBook, a G4 iBook and a 12'' AiBook. Solid, all machines.
So instead of wishing and wanting and what-not, I think Apple deserves some credit for generally taking good care of its customers with it's harware/SW releases. Some will never, ever be satisfied, but for what I do, the machines simply work.
So instead of what Apple "should" or "could" release, we should just sit back and see what actually comes out.
Heck, I was caught off-guard by Airport Express!
$0.02.
-d.
 
Jmitch said:
Apple sticks to what they believe. That's what makes them such a great company. They don't just change based on what the rest of the market is doing. Like most other companies...

I personally agree with the single-button concept and think others developers should see the benefit of a single-button mouse and follow Apple. I think they will, as they have already started to.

so why does itunes for windows use the right mouse button ? the interferes with your argumentation line

i personally see no benefit for 95% of the people (some might have problems with confusing right and left....) for using one button .. sorry
 
I would argue that the dual button is more efficient. From a developer's standpoint, being able to provide access to additional features to the end-user without any complex mouse movements seems to make more sense than having to click-and-hold (for a certain amount of time) or some other schema of accesesing those options.
 
takao said:
so why does itunes for windows use the right mouse button ? the interferes with your argumentation line

i personally see no benefit for 95% of the people (some might have problems with confusing right and left....) for using one button .. sorry

Yes they have the functions implemented, however one can use iTunes just as efficiently with a single-button mouse as they can with a dual. And the point is, it's simpler.
 
Skiniftz said:
I know.. however it never ceases to surprise me how many newbies suddenly appear with one post only citing information from "a friend" about what Apple will be releasing.

All to be taken with a large pinch of salt!

Then again, if you had insider info that you wanted to spill, wouldn't you post under a new, false user ID too?
 
michaelrjohnson said:
That's true... however, I have no doubts that the CEO is also under NDA.

Oh yeah, and who'd be brave enough to give him a rap across the knuckles?? I've heard some of the staff are terrified of just being in the same lift as him! :D
 
Jmitch said:
Apple sticks to what they believe. That's what makes them such a great company. They don't just change based on what the rest of the market is doing. Like most other companies...

I personally agree with the single-button concept and think others developers should see the benefit of a single-button mouse and follow Apple. I think they will, as they have already started to.

I like the single button but I think they should add a mouse wheel.
 
Ok.. I've been thinking about this - WHY would they take down the existing order STATUS pages today?

Are we going to find out that the DP2.5 doesnt exist and we are all getting upgraded to DP3's?

Why? WHY??!!
 
aswitcher said:
Damn, no iMacs.

You still have a chance, after all tomorrow is Tuesday. Would not at all be surprised to see other announcements this week.
 
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