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Displays Confirmed

Hello,

Just downloaded our new Apple Educational Pricing and the doc lists 20, 23, and 30 displays on it. the 23 and 30 are HD.

Nothing else has changed hardware wise.

Later,

Rob
 
just to add to the already enormous reply list...

I am definitely hoping for that $999 price point on the 20" display. Honestly, I could care less about the 30", because it is going to be too much money either way for me. I'd rather get a G5 than a 30" display.

The 20" seems to be a lot of people's sweet spot. I know that if it does stay the same price, then I will have to wait even longer in order to buy it, or I will have to turn to another brand :(

I'm also anxious to see what Tiger has to offer. I hope more VISIBLE enhancements than Panther did. I got Panther because I'm a geek, but I couldn't see the improvements until about a month after I started using it, and I went to another machine that had Jaguar on it and saw the speed differences, etc. Apple will have to do more than just under-the-hood enhancements to justify another upgrade (although under-the-hood upgrades are very important).

One last thing... can anyone say $99 iSight??? or perhaps a new lifestyle device (surprise)???
 
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WWDC Stream.

I think there will be a stream posted after the keynote. The events on apples quicktime page have links to watch the other streams like macworld, itunes music store and such but the wwdc03 is not working so they have probably taken off access to that to replace it with a wwdc 04 stream...Watch this space.......

Bookmark http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc04/

Just in case.
 
Warbrain said:
there will always be disappointment since apple will never release the PDA, they'll never release another Cube, and they'll never release the iMac G5 any time soon. The only thing that I could see being released other than the displays is a powerbook, but that's not going to happen any time soon.

okay, put the crack pipe down
 
Keynote Webast

Zaty said:
I guess there is still a small chance that there will be a life broadcast. The earlier Apple annouces the live stream the more people will watch which could lead to bandwith constraints.

EDIT: I just read Apple confirmed there would be no broadcast, oh dear

One, Apple only confirmed there would be no satellite broadcast to anywhere, not that there would be no webcast. I'm still hoping for a last minute webcast. Holding out to the last minute might be due to the ticket sales. Secondly, if we don't get a live feed last minute, I'm really hoping for a FULL stream after it has happened.
 
Jmitch said:
One, Apple only confirmed there would be no satellite broadcast to anywhere, not that there would be no webcast. I'm still hoping for a last minute webcast. Holding out to the last minute might be due to the ticket sales. Secondly, if we don't get a live feed last minute, I'm really hoping for a FULL stream after it has happened.
there wasn't a live webcast last year either. there will most likely be a posthumous webcast.
 
longofest said:
Apple will have to do more than just under-the-hood enhancements to justify another upgrade (although under-the-hood upgrades are very important).

Surely under-the-hood speed improvements are the most important to the general user. I know there is a certain WOW! factor that some candy elements of the interface carry, but most enterprise, design and education customers don't really care about; they should be the areas that Apple need to focus on. Given that their banners are joking about Redmond needing to be worried etc, that is clearly their goal. They need to encourage more IT heads to consider a UNIX based OS that is easy to install, manage and fix over a large number of network based computers.

I couldnt give a monkey's about eye-candy (just for the sake of it - like genie, not like expose which has obvious production benefits) as long as it runs faster and plays better in a corporate or design environment.

:D
 
AL-FAMOUS said:
nicely spoted

I dont see why they would have better info than anyone else. Just because IBM have finally nailed PowerTune, which they have been banging on about for a good while, still doesnt mean we will see them before xmas. I'm thinking MWSF at the earliest.
 
rmassung said:
Hello,

Just downloaded our new Apple Educational Pricing and the doc lists 20, 23, and 30 displays on it. the 23 and 30 are HD.

Nothing else has changed hardware wise.

Later,

Rob

And the prices were??? ;)
 
So we have a hint that they might actually release the G5 iMacs after all?! Saweet, but I can't take it anymore!!! Just hours before they start!!!!! :D

I guess we'll just have to wait and see... (waiting sucks, and I can't see cause it's not broadcasted to me which double sucks)
 
the silver fox said:
I dont see why they would have better info than anyone else. Just because IBM have finally nailed PowerTune, which they have been banging on about for a good while, still doesnt mean we will see them before xmas. I'm thinking MWSF at the earliest.


im not saying there right... i was just giving the lad a pat on the back for doing some spotting and reporting... plus i happen to think that they will be released today
 
bathysphere said:
there wasn't a live webcast last year either. there will most likely be a posthumous webcast.

Okay, first of all posthumous means it is occuring after a person's death. Secondly, why are you using past tense. "there wasn't" The damn thing hasn't happened yet. Hello, wake up buddy.
 
JeffTL said:
Tell me, then. Is the iBook "more expensive" than a comparable 12" Windows laptop with a decent battery? That wasn't the case last May when I made the switch. I needed a small computer and name brand Wintel laptops seemed comparatively overpriced -- particularly if I wanted one that was neither from a company I was boycotting (rhymes with "Hell" and ripped me off on a mismarketed sound card) nor had a reputation with bad batteries (think about cows).

no the the ibook is at the moment the most apealing 12" hands down... it has a good price/performance rating and nice features
on laptops apple can easily compete with x86s no doubt.. but on consumer/pro-sumer desktops their models are lacking....in germany apple sold more ibooks than imacs and emacs _combined_ (but still only about 1,7 % of new sold computers which is the definition of marketshare)

i'm perhaps going to buy a ibook next year (please apple add 1-2 additional usb ports)...but i would prefere a desktop with 17" tft...
 
As a university Sientist myself, i can say its about 50/50. I of course use Mcs, but the fact i sthat many hardware devices for science are PC only in terms of interface cards and applications. That said, many are Mac only as well. I do not know of any labs without at least one of each.
Buta s to preference, I would say where I am, its half and half.

oingoboingo said:
I actually know quite a few ex-university biologists (who are now in the biotech sector) who used Macs while at university (because they were supplied by the department), but ditched them as soon as they possibly could when starting their own company. I also have friends in graphic design who started out on Macs, but moved across to PCs later on in their careers, and are quite happy in Wintel land. Switching does flow both ways. In fact, now that I think about it, I know more people who have gone from Mac to PC, rather than the other way around. Maybe it's something that happens to frustrated university scientists when they get into the private sector.



I agree. If Apples were cheaper, then we would see a lot more people switching. But they aren't, and I can't really see Apple getting into the budget arena. They seem quite content to stay at the premium end of the market, making nice margins on nice hardware. The marketshare tells the story. Approximately 98% of the market (insert your favourite marketshare estimate...they're all between 90% and 99% somewhere) says "Thanks, but not at that price".
 
Since I'm a recent convert from the PC world (not completely mind you), I have a tough time relating to this display situation. Why do you need some sort of LCD display at all? Are you all spending so much money on stuff that has a little apple and a floating leaf on it that you have houses or apartments where you can't fit a monitor on your desk? I can't deny the cool factor, how amazing the displays are, or the advantages of the ADC (even though you're stressing about ONE more cable). But how many 19" or 21" CRT's could you buy even for the cost of the most basic Apple monitor? You guys talk about how they're missing some opportunities if they don't have a choice below a grand, but I think they're missing out on some opportunities under a few hundred dollars. It's just bad business not to still offer CRT's, because I know personally I'd rather drop 3 grand on the full monty in G5 land and use some CRT's than skimp on a dual 1.8 so I can get an apple display. I’d spend more money on an Apple CRT without giving it a second thought. But that's just me. I stayed PC for so long because I could build one for like 500 dollars, and Apple folk will line up to spend multiples of that on just the display.

Just my thoughts
 
AL-FAMOUS said:
nicely spoted


oh an silverfox..... stevie gerrard looks to be staying at liverpool there having a press confrence at three..... sky sports news if you have it matey

Thanks mate, but sadly I'm going to be stuck in the car :(
 
AL-FAMOUS said:
im not saying there right... i was just giving the lad a pat on the back for doing some spotting and reporting... plus i happen to think that they will be released today

Yes definitely agree on the spotting, and I really hope we do see powerbooks soon (I meant them not the iMac), but sadly I think it may be a while. I hope I get to munch on some headwear.
 
I had a scary thought.

Apple releases updated LCDs with no discounted pricing and kills the 17". Now lets go into the crazed realm of marketing and think about this. It doesn't seem as odd if we accept the mantra "iMac for comsumer, G5 for professional."

"Why do we need conusmer pricing on monitors if our consumer device already has a built in monitor?"

"Professionals have corporate dollars and can spend more for high end hardware."

Now as a pro-sumer I don't like the above thoughts any more than most. I was looking forward to picking up a 30" at a sub $3000 point. However it does all make sense when looked at from a marketing viewpoint.
-jim
 
I did some investigating and it's hard to find a 20"-21" lcd lfat panel that retails for less than $1,000. Both Sony and Smasung are above $1,000. When was the last time you saw Apple's prices below the competition?
 
a17inchFuture said:
wouldnt it be sweet if apple surprised everyone tomorrow with that optical pad/scroll mouse thing . . . they really need to hop on that bandwagon already

one button mouse is way too simplistic

here, here. i know it's not on the display topic, but this is still a topic that really chaffs my a$$. WHY a one button mouse, steve??!? i worked at apple for a while and was in an internal meeting (when they were intro-ing the G4) and someone asked him if we/they would ever produce a 2-button mouse. steve said it was a "failure of software design" to need more than one button.

yeah, it's MUCH easier to CTRL-click w/ my other hand and scroll by clicking on a 32x32pix button. give it a rest, steve. i'm tired of shelling out another $40 to microsoft everytime i buy a new Mac.
 
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