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Late-2011 MBP upgrades (hopefully)
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I think Apple assumes, pretends or expects that MBP users run OS X. It's not the only choice, but it's the "standard" that provides cohesion.
For everyone who thinks that apple will wait until ivy before updating, there is no evidence to support that claim. The last time the case was updated (2008), the processor that came inside the new design was the (very old) last generation of intel processors BEFORE Nehalem (in the macbook aluminum case).
Thinking that a processor refresh + case refresh come together do not have any historical evidence to support this claim.
Thinking that a processor refresh + case refresh come together do not have any historical evidence to support this claim.
MacBook Air Mid 2009 Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHz (SL9400) or 2.13 GHz (SL9600) - before redesign
MacBook Air Late 2010 Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHz (SL9400) or 2.13 GHz (SL9600) - after redesign
Same processor, completely new design
I would really like a MacBook Pro with SSD like MacBook Air, no ODD, a bit lighter and with more battery life (thanks to bigger battery) even with the same processor and GPU.
MacBook Air Late 2010 Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHz (SL9400) or 2.13 GHz (SL9600) - after redesign
Same processor, completely new design
I would really like a MacBook Pro with SSD like MacBook Air, no ODD, a bit lighter and with more battery life (thanks to bigger battery) even with the same processor and GPU.
You two conveniently leaving out the Nvidia chipsets? 9400m/9600m and 320m were big updates.
Intel isn't pushing out new hardware until 2012, what exactly would Apple have to upgrade the MBP with?
Nehalem(November 2008) came out after the unibodies did(October 2008). So Apple could not have put the new Nehalem processors in with that release schedule.
johnnyturbouk
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-what would be nice imo would be a discreet high speed 60gb ssd for osx+app
-hdd - sata-3 which can be customised for conventional hdd/ssd
-no more ODD (maybe an optional extra)
- dual HDD slots in the 17" MBP
-new case design - allowing one customization of finishes: like carbon fiber black, LM, brushed titatium etc.
-hdd - sata-3 which can be customised for conventional hdd/ssd
-no more ODD (maybe an optional extra)
- dual HDD slots in the 17" MBP
-new case design - allowing one customization of finishes: like carbon fiber black, LM, brushed titatium etc.
I don't think we'll see USB 3.0 until and unless it's clear Thunderbolt won't catch on with mass market peripheral suppliers.
When Apple makes the 15" more like the Air, I think the option to add a second drive will go away. Only the Mac Mini and Mac Pro are easy to expand. Everything else seems to be becoming less and less serviceable.
If Apple does a major refresh for the Christmas shopping season, I think it would take away from the sales of iPads, which is probably not what Apple wants. If Apple can make the iPad the standard tablet the way the iPod became the standard music player, they stand to gain much more than if it is just one among many tablets.
It would be nice to see them add 3G/4G, as that would tie into their iCloud.
When Apple makes the 15" more like the Air, I think the option to add a second drive will go away. Only the Mac Mini and Mac Pro are easy to expand. Everything else seems to be becoming less and less serviceable.
If Apple does a major refresh for the Christmas shopping season, I think it would take away from the sales of iPads, which is probably not what Apple wants. If Apple can make the iPad the standard tablet the way the iPod became the standard music player, they stand to gain much more than if it is just one among many tablets.
It would be nice to see them add 3G/4G, as that would tie into their iCloud.
Not nearly as big as the move to nehalem processors or the move to ivy processors. Graphics updates come almost every model at least to the top of the line systems.
Do you really think the buyer's guide has any inside information? They're just being safe so that in the slight chance Apple releases a refresh early, no one can complain.
Even IF Apple releases a new case this fall ( let's say October ) without any major changes on CPU and GPU, will you be willing to buy them when knowing that the Ivy Bridge processors are 3 months down the road ??
It really makes no sense .. I've waited this far, I can wait until Feb/Mar 2012 ..
It really makes no sense .. I've waited this far, I can wait until Feb/Mar 2012 ..
Ahem . . .
The CPUs used in the original unibody were not the same as the CPUs used in the last non-unibody MBPs.
The early 2008 MBP 2.4 GHz used a T8300; the late 2008 MBP 2.4 GHz unibody used a P8600. The other models also used different CPUs.
So to claim that in essence the same processors were used, and that Apple simply changed the case design, is incorrect.
Those are both Core2Duo processors and the speed increase was only ~15-20% in that upgrade cycle, the NEXT MBP would use Nehalem and was a screamer compared to the generation before.
Personally, I'd like to see Apple go to a hybrid SSD /HDD model at the high end- add some SSD to the MB (32 or 64 GB) and keep the HD for storage. If needed to make space, ditch the discrete GPU or make the battery smaller.
Keep the ODD.
Make a low end 13" to replace the White MB at the old price.
Keep the ODD.
Make a low end 13" to replace the White MB at the old price.
1, I don't get why they have ditched the super drive on the Mini as it's a desktop?
2, why not just use the search function for the many many many many other threads on the exact same topic?
The point is that your implied statement that Apple simply stuffed the same internals into a different case is incorrect, thus invalidating your premise. The second generation unibodies were also Core 2 Duo based; it wasn't until the 2010 revisions that the i5//i7 processors were incorporated.
Bascially all I'm saying is that apple has a history of NOT updating the CPUs and cases to something amazing at the same time (and thus producing a SUPER upgrade) and the idea that the two are interlinked is not founded in fact.
Almost the exact opposite seems to be true in fact: case in point is that the last MBP upgrade was a very good upgrade but it was not even publicly announced, just put out without any fanfare even though it was one of the best upgrades in years.
Well, with only one case change for the Macbook Pro, we don't have much of a history at all, and almost 4 years is a LONG time in the computer world. Plus, going from non-unibody to unibody was a huge change construction-wise. The proposed next change is going from an aluminum unibody to a "liquidmetal" unibody. I see that as an improvement, but not worthy of a refresh 6 months after the previous refresh and 6 months before the next gen chips. No one's saying it couldn't happen...just that it doesn't seem to make much business sense.
