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Now that the Mac Mini is sans an Optical Drive and you can configure the Mini-Server with 750GB + SSD options; heres hoping Apple does that same option for MBP's. or even dual RAID SSD's.

If I were you I'd hold off and wait for the next MBP update! Maybe the one after might be a complete re-design so you might as well wait for that one too.

I wish I had waited but I needed one right away to make money with. :( I'm sure I wasted my money by buying a Mac that is sure to be updated in the next 6 to 14 months, but I needed to pay bills and stuff so I just bit the bullet and bought a soon-to-be-obsolete Mac.

Damn.
 
For everyone who thinks that apple will wait until ivy before updating, there is no evidence to support that claim. The last time the case was updated (2008), the processor that came inside the new design was the (very old) last generation of intel processors BEFORE Nehalem (in the macbook aluminum case).

Thinking that a processor refresh + case refresh come together do not have any historical evidence to support this claim.
[sic] (Emphasis added.)

Hmmmm . . . So kindly reconcile your statement above with what you later said about the unibody design showing a "15-20%" performance increase?

Why not simply admit there WAS a processor "refresh" in moving from aluminum body to unibody?

Bascially all I'm saying is that apple has a history of NOT updating the CPUs and cases to something amazing at the same time (and thus producing a SUPER upgrade) and the idea that the two are interlinked is not founded in fact.

You're trying to recast what you've written. The introduction of the unibody design WAS accompanied by a processor "refresh." Now you appear to be trying to claim that what you meant to say was that case redesigns don't include major architectural changes. Those are different assertions.

Hence, your bolded statement above is factually incorrect, as you yourself point out.
 
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There might be a chance that late 2011 MacBook Pros could have Ivy Bridge chips. Hasn't Apple been known to receive unreleased chips from Intel in the past? I remember hearing something about Mac Pros getting Westmere procs before they were available to other companies. Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about...
 
There might be a chance that late 2011 MacBook Pros could have Ivy Bridge chips. Hasn't Apple been known to receive unreleased chips from Intel in the past? I remember hearing something about Mac Pros getting Westmere procs before they were available to other companies. Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about...

Apple is a 300+ Billion Dollar Company..... They have access to ALOT of stuff.

They can pretty much do whatever they want.

Lets hope a redesign comes soon :)
 
There might be a chance that late 2011 MacBook Pros could have Ivy Bridge chips. Hasn't Apple been known to receive unreleased chips from Intel in the past? I remember hearing something about Mac Pros getting Westmere procs before they were available to other companies. Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about...

Not possible, Intel is not gonna apple release a product months before other companies get it. It is gonna be like Sandy Bridge, Apple released SB MBPs before many other companies released their SB laptops, but no way they are getting it so early.
I highly doubt a redesign this year, next year is when it is gonna come.
 
...you appear to be trying to claim that what you meant to say was that case redesigns don't include major architectural changes...

Yes, this is what I meant to say, that major architectural changes have not historically come with case redesigns. Penryn was a chip refresh (a not very good one), that is similar to the next gen processor refresh that will come in the future MBP. All I want to do is keep the hype down in the forums as apple has a long standing history of disappointing fanboys. Stay calm everyone...
 
I agree. Apple will redesign the MBP, but not before the new Ivy Bridge CPU and the new AMD GPU's are out. They will come early 2012.
Doesn't make any sense to launch the redesign with the current hardware.

This is absolutely what is going to happen. There's no way in hell they are going to update before the 28nm GPUs and Ivy Bridge.
 
Yes, this is what I meant to say, that major architectural changes have not historically come with case redesigns. Penryn was a chip refresh (a not very good one), that is similar to the next gen processor refresh that will come in the future MBP. All I want to do is keep the hype down in the forums as apple has a long standing history of disappointing fanboys. Stay calm everyone...

Well, it's not like Ivy Bridge is going to be some huge leap forward--it being the "tock" part of Intel's "tick-tock" process. Improvement? Sure. But it's not a major architectural change in the same way that Sandy Bridge was--it is the incremental move forward.

So you might, in the future, be more specific when you write that an enclosure redesign does not come with a processor refresh. In fact, the one time Apple has changed the enclosure design, it DID come with a different processor.
 
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