I don't need or want to take work with me, and I use computers until they die, or no longer perform well enough to get work done. I'm not going to pay extra for miniaturization and a screen, when I don't need it or want it.
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Late 2014 Mac Mini Benchmarks Indicate Decreased Multi-Core Performance
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I don't need or want to take work with me, and I use computers until they die, or no longer perform well enough to get work done. I'm not going to pay extra for miniaturization and a screen, when I don't need it or want it.
This update is very lacking across the board. Nothing new on the apple watch, no battery information. I'm guessing it's currently no better than the Motorola watch. Apple is secretly trying to tweak it as much as they can just to get any extra minutes out of it. I think it's just going to be a cute gadget that will be short-lived. Less than 24-hours battery, you have to recharge it everynight. What's the consensus on how many people wear a watch and still have a smartphone in their pocket?
The iPad mini 3 has no upgrade, except you're only getting touch ID, other than that, no new hardware, no new cameras. Same chips and capacities as the previous generation, with a $100 price premium over the previous ipad mini 2.
I've been wanting the mac mini, it would have been my first, but I'll let Apple keep it, I'll wait for a new version or probably build a new Windows machine.
The iMac 21-inch has been crippled, and now this 27-inch 5K iMac. All it takes is one thing to go wrong and the whole computer, and the 5K display becomes useless, especially after the warranty. There's no possibility to use the display as target mode (as a monitor).
Very lacking in innovation, downgrades all across the line, and everything getting soldered, all in the name of efficiently.
They're just running on Steve Jobs momentum and reputation. Apple is being driven to the ground.
The iPad mini 3 has no upgrade, except you're only getting touch ID, other than that, no new hardware, no new cameras. Same chips and capacities as the previous generation, with a $100 price premium over the previous ipad mini 2.
I've been wanting the mac mini, it would have been my first, but I'll let Apple keep it, I'll wait for a new version or probably build a new Windows machine.
The iMac 21-inch has been crippled, and now this 27-inch 5K iMac. All it takes is one thing to go wrong and the whole computer, and the 5K display becomes useless, especially after the warranty. There's no possibility to use the display as target mode (as a monitor).
Very lacking in innovation, downgrades all across the line, and everything getting soldered, all in the name of efficiently.
They're just running on Steve Jobs momentum and reputation. Apple is being driven to the ground.
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That is simply not an option for me. I switched to the Mac, because I was sick of fiddling around with my computer to get it to work how I expect it to. My PC used to be my hobby. I used to build my own PCs, enjoying weeks of research to get exactly the perfect configuration. Later, I started buying complete systems instead. Still, I had to invest a significant amount of time. What finally killed it was when I replaced the graphics adapter in an existing system with a new one and couldn't get Win 7 to work stable anymore. After two weeks of reinstalling Win 7, installing various driver version, BIOS updates, etc., the system still kept crashing randomly. So I gave up. Now I buy a Mac, I put it on my desk, I turn it on, and it works, with very few exceptions. I pay a little more, but I get a lot of additional free time for that investment that I don't have to waste with looking for some newest updated driver.
I will not go back to that by trying to build a Hackintosh. If I do that, then I can just as well go back to Windows. And I think it's the same for many people who happily pay the "Apple premium" for the convenience offered by the Apple ecosystem.
I see your point but anyway "First Weekend iPhone6/6plus Sales Top 10 Million, Set New Record". Everybody has it. Obviously for Apple/OSX/iOS infrastructure consumers money isn't a problem at all, that's why I don't understand all the complainings about mac mini. If you're not into Apple "infrastructure" than apple computers and phones are irrelevant for you anyway.
Yes, it has poor value for people who don't need to take their work with them and work from anywhere in the world.
If someone buys a Macbook Pro and leaves it on the same desk for three years without moving it a single time, then that person has wasted money by buying a notebook without needing a notebook. Apple should not force people to waste money.
You are not alone here. From the time seeing the announcement, it has all the makings of a "Plan B" product release. My take is that Intel could not fulfill the order for the next generation Mac Mini and they went with a new board and lowered the cost to get volume.
First the industrial design is the same. With the radical shift in the Mac Pro, I was expecting something of that style to become the updated Mac Mini. Also, with the lower price point, they are looking at a new market. I'd love to see the volume discount on these units resellers will offer.
My take is we'll see and updated Mac Mini or perhaps a renamed mid-range Mac desktop hitting the $1500 price level next year.
Down with Dual-Cores for good!
Why don't we just switch to everything-quad core?
Dual core feels so yesterday...
We shall dub this the Mac Mini "Apple-calypse"
Why don't we just switch to everything-quad core?
Dual core feels so yesterday...
We shall dub this the Mac Mini "Apple-calypse"
No, it's not great value if you don't need to take your work with you anywhere in the world. If you are buying a desktop computer portability isn't really a top priority.
I think the value of my late 2012 quad core i7 Mac Mini may have just shot up over the last few days.
Bizarre logic. So because someone can afford a $700 phone every two or three years, they should also be able to afford a $4000 Mac? The possibility that they can afford that phone only because they bought a $1000 Mac Mini instead of the Mac Pro did not occur to you? If I were to extend your logic further, every owner of an iPhone should be driving a Ferrari and own a house in the center of London, because money isn't a problem at all for them.
Also, I use my iPhone all day, every day. So I am willing to spend a certain amount of money on it. I don't use my Mac all day. I don't even use it daily. So your comparison is completely off.
Oh dear. Apple used to be really good didn't they? I'll add that model to my "wait til the next release" list too as well as the iPhone 6S. Don't worry. They'll get it right next time. No. Really. They're just going through a innovation blip at the moment. That's all.
Apple used to be really good didn't they? I'll add that model to my "wait til the next release" list too as well as the iPhone 6S. Don't worry. They'll get it right next time. No. Really. They're just going through a innovation blip at the moment. That's all.Because Apple loves to milk it. Just like how iPhone and iPad starts out at 16GB. By now, these devices should be at least 64GB or 128GB as the smallest capacity. A 64GB USB thumb drive now costs less than $30 from Amazon. I think it would cost apple no more than $10-15 to put in a 64GB chip into the iPhone. A 16GB chip probably costs apple no more than $1 or $2, but they put a $100 premium for every increment, so they make a very large profit, all just for a single chip with different capacity.
It's the same way with the Mac mini. They're not giving you the best. It's all about bean-counting. They have no incentive you give you more of what is actually valuable, but rather what seems to be valuable. Soldered RAM is more costs effective for Apple, and more profitable. It might seem valuable to the consumer, because soldered RAM is more efficient when it's built right into the board, but in the long run, when you don't have enough because a new application you want to use requires more RAM, you're out of luck and require a new machine.
I think Apple used to have to work for their food, but now that they are "Most valuable/loved company", they are slacking. They're sitting on hundreds of billions in cash, so they don't really care, they're being complacent.
I don't know which of you guys are deleting posts but you're deleting relevant information.
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Not necessarily. A laptop doesn't cut out when the power goes out. You would have to buy a UPS for the mini that may last 5 minutes or so. It also offers you that option if you need it.
I could be off but I'm just saying - if you need a machine for some serious work get a Mac Pro. If you don't, than a mac mini is just fine. For some email/surf/FB "work" an iphone should be enough.
"The primary intended market for the Mac Mini was users switching from a traditional Windows PC to a Mac who might already own a compatible display, keyboard and mouse.
The Mac Mini is an entry-level computer intended for budget-minded customers."
I live in a country where power outages are uncommon. I think the last power outage I remember was 25 years ago.
The Mini is also a very capable digital audio workstation, and also for Lightroom (which doesn't use any GPU acceleration at the moment). Especially the quad-core versions. That's not what it was for, necessarily, but that was the appeal. A powerhouse in a little tiny package.
Those are the customers Tim referred to during the keynote when he mentioned the demand that the Mac Mini has.
Well, considering your current computer seems to still be not "dead" yet - you should be good waiting for the 2015 update.
Htpc doesn't need updates, you can use snow leopard with that and be fine. Main machine.. I don't know. How are the updates? How are the major updates? I get frustrated about trim turning off every update, I can't imagine a full hacintosh every major upgrade
so if im understanding your post, the wiring in your house must be at least 25 years old if it never went out to be upgraded, changed or anything of that sort.
If everyone will remember we went a long time without a Mac Pro. Apple is just too successful, they think it is no problem generating confusing and bad perception with their users, because Apple thinks Apple can do no wrong.
I hope this is just another case of Apple sucking at managing product lifecycle. The problem is we don't know if this is just stupidity or a signal about the future.
Someone once said, "Never blame something on malice that can be adequately explained by stupidity."
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Please stay on-topic, this thread is about the new Mac Mini not the current storage capacities of iPhones and iPads.
Please stay on-topic, this thread is about the new Mac Mini not the current storage capacities of iPhones and iPads.
Yes. WAS! That statement comes from the Mac Mini introduction in 2005. That was in the Power PC dark ages. Apple's Mac product line has changed significantly since then.
That is a statement from Wikipedia supported by no sources whatsoever. It is very obviously wrong. Proof? There was a core i7 quad core option in the last two iterations of the Mac Mini. That is not "entry-level".
By your logic, Apple should not sell quad core iMacs, because the iMac used to be Apple's entry level Mac. Things change. Things had changed for the Mac Mini. For three years. Now Apple decided to change things back.
They've only just released the 5K iMac, and we're already hyped over the 512K Mac?
Rumors sure are fast around this website these days...