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The holodeck is all encompassing, it's not overlayed on the real world, it replaces it. We've got tech that's starting us in the that direction (in a very limited way right now), it's called VR. You should look into it, it's amazing.
Never heard of VR—must be new!
 
And... Other companies have made touch-based smartphones, mouse-driven computers, thin laptops, smartwatches, tablets, compact Bluetooth earphones, and on and on, first.

But I bet you're eager to claim Jobs was an innovator because as CEO his company created some of those products using the fruits of predecessor inventions. Right?

It's not about who came up with an idea in the rough, first...
Not sure why you think I'm some big Steve Jobs apologist, maybe you've got a few discussions going on at once?

Actually I wouldn't say Apple is particularly innovative, I think they're slow are careful and make the best stuff because of it. That might involve innovations behind the scenes, inside the products, in the code, I don't know (or, frankly, care).

Also, innovation IS about being first. To innovate is to have a new idea, that's what the word means. Just cos it's become an industry buzzword doesn't mean every company has to be innovative. Apple perfects, and that's great.
 
VR is not just for gaming. It's been huge in education which is why Apple is playing catch up.

https://vr.google.com/

Although AR is a subset of VR, Cook can only tout AR since current Apple devices are not VR ready until they get OLED, higher resolution and high refresh rate. For example, if you look at Oculus Rift and HTC Vive VR headsets they both are OLED with high 2160x1200 resolution (1080x1200 per eye) at 90Hz.


When they say "Apple is behind." Or "Apple is playing catchup," what they really mean is I have no idea what Apple is spending ten plus billion dollars a year on R & D, or what Apple is developing with its tens of thousands of engineers, but since they haven't decided to release a product, they must be behind. Then when Apple decides it's time to release something, e.g., the AR Kit, all of the critics suddenly run for cover, muttering to themselves, "Oops," I guess they weren't just sitting in their offices and gazing at their navels." Or, "I thought Tim Cook and the others at Apple were clueless about technology trends, but maybe they've been reading Macrumors' forums and decided to check out this AR thing people have been talking about."
 
Apple has pulled the rug underneath their competitors again.

Apple must have a time machine to go back to 2013 which was the AR era. We've progressed to VR era since 2015. Maybe Apple will catch up with VR by end of year or 2018.
 
I'd rather just use a tape measure.

I don't always carry a tape measure with.
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If you are measuring it, in most cases you're going to have to reach it at some point.

Say you are 160cm tall and you want to measure a huge armoire (like in the video) - with a tape measure you struggle to get to the top of the armoire and hope the tape hook on whilst you unroll it to the bottom and measure it. You then scribble the measurement down and do the width and again scribble the measurement down. Alternatively you use ARmeasure where you don't need to struggle to get to the top of the Armoire and you have the measurements attached to an image of the thing you measured.
 
Apple must have a time machine to go back to 2013 which was the AR era. We've progressed to VR era since 2015. Maybe Apple will catch up with VR by end of year or 2018.

"2013, which was the AR era"

Huh? Why was that the "AR era?" Beca

You sound like the guy who says "Apple never invented anything, they just piggyback on other peoples ideas and capitalize on them".

Apple never does things first, nor do they claim to. The guy you replied to said Apple pulled the rug from underneath its competitors, and I bet that will be true. And we will hear people complain about how some Android phone had those features x years ago (Welcome to 2014 Apple!) while hundreds of millions of new customers experience this new-to-them technology.

Being first doesn't matter. Being the first to do something right matters.
 
What's so special about the car? The horse and buggy has had wheels for YEARS!
 
Apple must have a time machine to go back to 2013 which was the AR era. We've progressed to VR era since 2015. Maybe Apple will catch up with VR by end of year or 2018.

AR is far more interesting to a lot of people than VR.

VR is a toy. AR is a tool.

And a simple HUD like google glass isn't really the same as the AR we are seeing now. I'd say calling glass "AR" is being extremely generous to google glass.
 
Not even that, more like everything that can run iOS 11. They specifically showed off ARKit on iPad at WWDC.

EDIT: It's for iPhone and iPad. Every iPhone and iPad (no iPod) that can run iOS 11 and has at least an A9 CPU will have AR support. This is why Apple said they now have the world's largest AR platform.

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My 6s is supported, but no AR support for my iPad mini 4.:(
 
"2013, which was the AR era"

Huh? Why was that the "AR era?" Beca

You sound like the guy who says "Apple never invented anything, they just piggyback on other peoples ideas and capitalize on them".

Apple never does things first, nor do they claim to. The guy you replied to said Apple pulled the rug from underneath its competitors, and I bet that will be true. And we will hear people complain about how some Android phone had those features x years ago (Welcome to 2014 Apple!) while hundreds of millions of new customers experience this new-to-them technology.

Being first doesn't matter. Being the first to do something right matters.

It’s this all over again...

https://gfycat.com/HappygoluckyMisguidedHammerkop
 
I just hope AR kit doesn't herald a plethora of cheap 99 cent apps with farting characters.

Check out my latest app "How long is a piece of string" for 99 cents, and also my upcoming app "Why did the chicken cross the road" for 99 cents.
 
Metal



For example?

You don't know what you're talking about.

For gaming, there are several new functions and options for gaming for example that are not in Metal. the Hope is that Metal 2 (just announced will bridget that gap), but gaming performance, and gaming quality on MacOS is still not nearly caught up to windows.

Believing otherwise is delusion

I could do the google search for you, but there are more than enough online resources available that outline the differences in available technologies, and performance.

I use MacOS, but i'm not under any illusion that it's the be-all end-all OS that does everything the best and everyone else sucks. That's not objective thought, and that's ignoring fact
 
For gaming, there are several new functions and options for gaming for example that are not in Metal. the Hope is that Metal 2 (just announced will bridget that gap), but gaming performance, and gaming quality on MacOS is still not nearly caught up to windows.

Source for that?

Oh, that's right, you don't have Apples-to-Apples benchmarks, just making assumptions and talking out of nothing...
 
The tape measure (if it's accurate) is a good sign of the direction of AR apps.

I just hope AR kit doesn't herald a plethora of cheap 99 cent apps with farting characters.
You are right, so many it has ruined the concept and model of the App Store.
 
Just think. In probably less than three years, in addition to location and time stamp metadata embedded in your photos, measurements will also be available to you standard with each picture you take. "How tall was Timmy when I took this picture?" You'll also be able to auto reverse engineer measurements pictures you receive with the ML Apple is putting on our phones. Tap an object and get distances, sizes, and estimated weights. Pretty cool.
 
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