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This wil look beautiful once its all covered in grass. I was wondering, Will there be some kind of tours when its all finished?

Most likely, no. The Visitor Center and public cafe is on the periphery of the campus. The theater is also outside the circle. Between the company's desire for secrecy and the difficulty of maintaining security, I'd expect that only invited guests will be shown around the premises.
 
Seems getting from one side of the building to another would be inefficient, compared to say housing everyone in a skyscraper with elevators. Golf carts for VIP's and good exercise for everyone else? Or is there some sort of rail system?
 
Dare I suggest the slightly more practical option, where those who run the show listen to just 0,1 promille of this feedback and launch a Mac mini, a decent Macpro, a MBP with more connectivity and a single new iPhone design say every other year - like any company of this size would to do.
And then Look at the financial effect (if that's your mere concern)
Oh, and a dongle that will connect you to causes instead of killing messengers...

You see messengers... I don't
 
Seems getting from one side of the building to another would be inefficient, compared to say housing everyone in a skyscraper with elevators. Golf carts for VIP's and good exercise for everyone else? Or is there some sort of rail system?
There is no rail system.

The building has multiple stories. Most likely a particular workgroup would occupy the same sector, but on multiple levels, so group meetings would only require a flight or two of stairs (or elevator ride) and a short walk.

Also, groups that have less in common would occupy sectors relatively far from each other, like the iPhone hardware team and the Mac hardware team. If you need to go to the other side of the building, it would be walk through the inner courtyard or one of the subterranean passages: good exercise.

One possible solution is a network of underground speedwalks. Apple would designate one subterranean floor to be a transit level, with walkways and speedwalks that meet at the center, like an airport terminal hub. You just take the nearby passageway/speedwalk to the center then transfer to the passageway/speedwalk that takes you closest to your intended destination.
 
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How do they get the trees and trucks and dirt inside the circle? Cranes going over, or is there some sort of underground tunnel to get access?

EDIT: Nevermind...I see the tunnel now in the later part of the video.
 
The meetings [with Steve Jobs] often lasted for five or six hours, consuming a significant amount of time in the last two years of Jobs’ life.
“He knew exactly what timber he wanted, but not just ‘I like oak’ or ‘I like maple.’
He knew it had to be quarter-cut. It had to be cut in the winter, ideally in January, to have the least amount of sap and sugar content. We were all sitting there, architects with gray hair, going, ‘Holy s***!’”
 
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Seems getting from one side of the building to another would be inefficient, compared to say housing everyone in a skyscraper with elevators. Golf carts for VIP's and good exercise for everyone else? Or is there some sort of rail system?

Anyone who has used an elevator would say that's NOT THE CASE. In the time you go to the elevator, wait for the elevator and then reach the floor you want then walk to your destination, you'd have walked 1000 feet minimum which means you'd have reached more than half the circle.

Also, with this thing, you can easily fit everyone of the same department on the same floor.

Also, you do realize that most of the people in this building HAD TO TAKE CARS TO MEET RIGHT NOW. They were NOT CURRENTLY IN THE SAME BUILDING.

Seems like many are kind of missing this point.

If 95% of people you need to meet are within a 5 minutes walk and 99% (within the rest of the building), vs 25% within 5 minutes walk and the rest within a 20-45 minutes commute. It changes the whole view about how much more efficient you are here.

Also, Its Silicon Valley California, even in the Winter the temp there means you don't need a coat and its only raining 2-3 months a year. I rented a convertible in January for a month and in San Francisco and only put the top on 3 days.

Cutting through and walking 5-10 monutes in those 5% of the time when you got something on the other side, which you could just schedule right after lunch, isn't a big hassle is it.
 
It's because Apple don't make many products and they are released so seldom that there is nothing else to talk about.
If Apple had a wider product range and you could buy many Apple products to use in your home, things would be different.

I do wonder if people expect more products to come, once this building is finished.

For starters, the home pod is coming. So yea I’d say more products are to come. Slow and steady when Apple is satisfied and think the technology is at their standard for creating a new product.
 
https://9to5mac.com/2017/07/05/apple-park-campus-impact-on-cupertino/

This is reported to be running, so far, around $5 billion, and that's only the cost to Apple. This article alludes to the peripheral costs of escalating property value estimates for the surrounding area. Houses are doubling and tripling in cost, and they weren't exactly cheap in the first place. Another thing I wonder, given the sometimes fleeting lifetimes and fates of tech corporations - remember Digital Equipment Corporation, which was a staple for at least half my 35 year career, from PDP-11s, Dec-10/20s and Vaxes, all the way to Alpha servers? - what will this huge thing look like in 20 or 30 years? And what will happen to this property, should Apple go under, downsize, or reinvent itself? But yes, it is quite a world wonder. So was Houston's Astrodome 50 years ago.

I watch Exploring with Josh and The Proper People on YouTube where they explore abandoned places. Maybe they will do the Apple campus in 20 years?
 
You see messengers... I don't
You must be relatively new here. The transition from happy hikers and proactive/kind requesters => disappointed customers => gruntling herds has only taken a decade or so.
Most people love Apple products, but gradually came to despise the organisation and its value's. The mere persistent of them keep signalling improvement opportunities over the years and are typically called messengers (as a sequel to the ambassadors/evangelists as they were in Jobs' times)
Don't misjudge some irony in their messages - it's the side effect of deaf ears.
Oh, and if you're puzzled why they don't use the feedback@apple.com and its alikes, it is because those seem to be equipped with digital shredders. Try yourself !
 
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Conceptually, the "spaceship campus" reminds me of the Pentagon building.

The_Pentagon_January_2008.jpg


Five is its magic number: five rings, with five floors creating five wings. (It has morphed additional basement-level extensions, since.)
And a "Ground Zero" inner yard with a park-like atmosphere, akin in concept to the one emulated by the "spaceship campus".

Iconic then, iconic now.
 
Does anyone know what drone, camera, or type of set-up the person did for these videos? I have not watched drone footage in a few years and have to say I am rather impressed at the adavances in both the video as well as the movement, height, and distance of this drone.
 
Does anyone know what drone, camera, or type of set-up the person did for these videos? I have not watched drone footage in a few years and have to say I am rather impressed at the adavances in both the video as well as the movement, height, and distance of this drone.
It says on his YT channel he uses a DJI Inspire 1 Pro. Looks like $3,299 on Amazon. :eek:

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July is pretty much the worst time of the year to transplant a tree.
 
You must be relatively new here. The transition from happy hikers and proactive/kind requesters => disappointed customers => gruntling herds has only taken a decade or so.
Most people love Apple products, but gradually came to despise the organisation and its value's. The mere persistent of them keep signalling improvement opportunities over the years and are typically called messengers (as a sequel to the ambassadors/evangelists as they were in Jobs' times)
Don't misjudge some irony in their messages - it's the side effect of deaf ears.
Oh, and if you're puzzled why they don't use the feedback@apple.com and its alikes, it is because those seem to be equipped with digital shredders. Try yourself !

You only have to review the macrumors forum comments on the day of the iPod release (16 years ago) to see that this is nothing new, and that it is hardly a consequence of those who love Apple products having come to depise it's values in recent years.

There were many whining and claiming to know better before, during, and after the historic turnaround.
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How do they get the trees to the center of the building now that it's built? (mind blown)

Underground tunnels
 
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You only have to review the macrumors forum comments on the day of the iPod release (16 years ago) to see that this is nothing new, and that it is hardly a consequence of those who love Apple products having come to depise it's values in recent years.

There were many whining and claiming to know better before, during, and after the historic turnaround.
OK, but I described the transition of former evangelists whose turnaround I find mostly remarkable and whose stories have more substance.
Which doesn't deny what you're saying, i.e. regular complainers will always exist.
If the latter were the majority, this would be a sad place...which it luckily isn't (in my view)
 
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My guess is that Apple will do nothing.

I recall reading some university study that showed that the loss of solar cell efficiency was about five or seven percent from a soiled panel (dirt, dust, pollen, smoke particles, etc.). I'm not convinced that factor is enough to merit deploying the resources (cherry picker, water, labor) to clean the arrays.

In this part of California, precipitation is cyclical, with the first rains coming in October and stopping around May. On a per panel basis, they would see a loss of efficiency in the summer months/early autumn, but those are also peak production days with the typically clear skies. Much of the debris would wash off at the first couple of rains.

It is likely that Apple has based their electrical generation estimates on a forecast taking into consideration soiling and season, not peak production from a brand-new, immaculately clean panel array under the bright sun on summer solstice.

A similar consideration would be panel failure. It is highly unlikely that Apple will replace the panels as they fail individually. Again, I'm sure Apple has already figured in a certain amount of panel failure into their energy output calculations. Heck, with the size of this development and the number of solar panels, I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a panel failure every other week.

A probable scenario is that Apple (or more likely its solar panel contractor) would replace defective units once a year unless a particular panel poses a danger.

You are right Apple won't replace or clean the panels.

They have contracted panel replacement by the solar company/contractor.

As for cleaning, who knows. Maybe once a year?
 
Here's an in depth inside look at the new campus, with some nice pictures.

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/apple-park-new-silicon-valley-campus/
Thanks, that's a fascinating article with a lot of detail I'll have to go back and take in more slowly when I'm not ready to get rushing off to do my work. The thing that intrigues me is the concept of the "breathing" building and how Steve hated a/c and wanted this climate control system to allow occupants to feel in touch with the weather outside. I wonder how that will really end up working out for employees in actual practice.

Climate control in the workplace can be such a crazy sticking point for people who very greatly in their personal tolerances and ideas of the "ideal" working temperature. Heck, at one company, I resisted a promotion and raise from my humble receptionist position because it meant moving to cubicles with the rest of the employees and giving up an area in which I was the sole occupant and had total control over the thermostat that controlled my area, not to mention a better view than even the CEO had! Some of my coworkers thought I was nuts, but way more pulled me aside and said they would do the same as they were tired of either boiling or freezing and having only harsh fluorescent lights glaring down on them all day. And boiling or freezing seem to be the main options when in a very tight building with vents that either blast arctic breezes down your collar or hot dry air to get the ambient temperature to a certain point.

I hope this building turns out to be wildly successful in actual operation and exceeds what Steve envisioned for it. I think it's beyond awesome that it is designed to run exclusively on renewable solar energy. I hope that works out well for them. I've seen it done on small commercial buildings but don't know how it works applied to a building this massive.
 
OK, but I described the transition of former evangelists whose turnaround I find mostly remarkable and whose stories have more substance.
Which doesn't deny what you're saying, i.e. regular complainers will always exist.
If the latter were the majority, this would be a sad place...which it luckily isn't (in my view)

Fair enough.
 
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