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Latest Firefox 3.1 Beta Adds Multi-Touch Support
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Oh I hated those things. Interesting term you use.
anyway, we always called them eraser heads. not only where they difficult to control, they broke easy, wore down quickly (I had a laptop where it became even with the keys - everytime I go to touch it, I ended up typing something). I also hated you pretty much had to wipe your hand off after using it. It was like an eraser, got that abrasion stuff all over your fingers once it started to wear down. I do like Multi-touch. My whitebook is lacking some of the features of the newer macbooks, but what I do have I like. Better than a mouse, and I use my wacom for more precise things.
Interesting. Am I the only one that thinks multi-touch should get the proverbial finger? It seems to me that all that's happening is you are substituting one 'gesture' for another? So you need to learn a whole new alphabet. How is that better than the one I already know? I must say it doesn't appeal to me at all. Sure, it's 'hip' but I think it will die out much like the digital tablet has - to obscurity.
Give me a well thought out tree of commands with context sensitive drop-downs, and a mouse.
I give it one finger - guess which one.
Rich
Give me a well thought out tree of commands with context sensitive drop-downs, and a mouse.
I give it one finger - guess which one.
Rich
I already use multiclutch to do many of those things. BUT, I much prefer using a swipe left and swipe right to switch between tabs. A twisting motion seems more like a forward/backwards thing right?
Anyways, it's also a bad idea to have something saved as swipe up/down, when you already have a swipe left/right. It's really easy to accidentally do the wrong one (most of us don't swipe in perfect directions, and tend to be more diagonal).
Anyways, it's also a bad idea to have something saved as swipe up/down, when you already have a swipe left/right. It's really easy to accidentally do the wrong one (most of us don't swipe in perfect directions, and tend to be more diagonal).
looks like ill be moving from safari as my default to firefox once this is out
It is out and works quite well.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minefield/
You can customize the behavior through about:config for Beta 2. Type in about:config into the location bar and you'll see a list of preferences. You can search for "gesture" and find the commands they're defaulted to.
browser.gesture.swipe.down cmd_close
Just to be safe, you can make a gesture to undo close tab as well.. such as holding shift when doing the close gesture:
browser.gesture.swipe.down.shift History:UndoCloseTab
(about:config, right-click -> new -> string)
browser.gesture.swipe.down Browser:NextTab
browser.gesture.pinch.out cmd_close
browser.gesture.pinch.in Browser:Home
Maybe toss in a compliment of swipe down with ctrl to go back..
browser.gesture.swipe.down.ctrl BrowserrevTab
Or similar to creating a new tab.. swipe up and alt? meta (cmd)? ctrl? shift? to undo close tab
browser.gesture.swipe.up.alt History:UndoCloseTab
browser.gesture.swipe.up cmd_newNavigatorTab
browser.gesture.swipe.down cmd_close
Just to be safe, you can make a gesture to undo close tab as well.. such as holding shift when doing the close gesture:
browser.gesture.swipe.down.shift History:UndoCloseTab
(about:config, right-click -> new -> string)
browser.gesture.swipe.up cmd_newNavigatorTab
browser.gesture.swipe.down Browser:NextTab
browser.gesture.pinch.out cmd_close
browser.gesture.pinch.in Browser:Home
Maybe toss in a compliment of swipe down with ctrl to go back..
browser.gesture.swipe.down.ctrl Browser
revTabOr similar to creating a new tab.. swipe up and alt? meta (cmd)? ctrl? shift? to undo close tab
browser.gesture.swipe.up.alt History:UndoCloseTab
I also may be one to switch back to firefox. The multi touch gestures are the only reason I use safari. It is nice to have two functional browsers, however. One for me and one for my wife.
Interesting. Am I the only one that thinks multi-touch should get the proverbial finger? It seems to me that all that's happening is you are substituting one 'gesture' for another? So you need to learn a whole new alphabet. How is that better than the one I already know? I must say it doesn't appeal to me at all. Sure, it's 'hip' but I think it will die out much like the digital tablet has - to obscurity.
Give me a well thought out tree of commands with context sensitive drop-downs, and a mouse.
I give it one finger - guess which one.
Rich
Am I the only one who is highly offended by your remarks? (Nobody else has replied.)
Multitouch is WAY better than some stupid keyboard commands (except for copy-and-paste IMO). I've used both and multitouch (NOT multiclutch!!!) is easier to remember because it makes more physical sense, plus it's faster because your hand is already on the trackpad controlling the mouse pointer.
A lot of money and hard work went into this technology. I am completely outraged at your dismissal of its brilliance. (I have an iPhone and a MacBook Air, plus THREE desktop computers, two PCs and an iMac, so I can tell you that multitouch is a huge time saver and an enjoyable experience to boot.)
Oh and I'm not an Apple employee or a Mac fanboy, I just recognize excellence when I see it.
this is great news. i don't really use firefox all that much, but might try it out again when this is released
Awesome.
I had been hoping for more applications to have multitouch support. Now it makes my MBP more valuable to me.
I had been hoping for more applications to have multitouch support. Now it makes my MBP more valuable to me.
Interesting. Am I the only one that thinks multi-touch should get the proverbial finger? It seems to me that all that's happening is you are substituting one 'gesture' for another? So you need to learn a whole new alphabet. How is that better than the one I already know? I must say it doesn't appeal to me at all. Sure, it's 'hip' but I think it will die out much like the digital tablet has - to obscurity.
Give me a well thought out tree of commands with context sensitive drop-downs, and a mouse.
I give it one finger - guess which one.
Rich
I'm not sure that I agree with you...I really like the gestures and think they're really useful especially for quick one-handed browsing. If I want to switch tabs in firefox I can either move my mouse to the top of the screen...aim and click (three step process) or I can use a keyboard shortcut (which requires use of my other hand) or I can make a small gesture with my right hand.... I think the gesture is a winner here.
Just one more thing...the "well thought out tree of commands with context sensitive" idea sounds a lot like the Windows start menu. However, my feeling is that once you get used to the Mac Dock it is much quicker and easier to access your favorite programs than the Windows Start menu.
I agree. I was very unsure as to whether or not i would like multi-touch when i bought my alu-macbook. I love it, and the reason I do not use the current firefox build is lack of support for these gestures. The swiping, and other commands are a giant time saver, and much easier to use. Sometimes people resist change, and I feel this is one of those times. However, it is much easier to use, and doesnt take long to get used to it. When I have to use a computer other than my macbook, it drives me up the wall that I cannot use 3 and 4 finger gestures (even for non internet tasks). I think multi-touch is here to stay, and will only get better.
Thank God! I was getting a little annoyed that Firefox didn't have them. It was like the missing Voice Synthesis by function-command before I realized the work-around.
~ CB
~ CB
Are you kidding? I use Safari in OS X over Firefox simply because of the multi-touch gestures. It's like using keyboard shortcuts, only easier (and more fun).
Wow this is awesome. Go firefox.
Silly question, but does the Firefox build multi-touch support work on the Windows side as well? I have a Dell XT, and I know HP has recently adopted the N-Trig screen as well.
If Internet Explorer has it and its a Windows standard feature, I'm not sure why they wouldn't. That the reason it was so important on the Mac. The multitouch support is really changing the way I use the system, and it really wows people because its so convenient (expose is just ALL THAT).
~ CB
If only people realised that Opera has had Mouse gestures built in that are far superior to any of these added trackpad-gesture-supports for a long time.