Agreed! I hate the offset camera lenses that have become standard. Would be much better to center the lenses on the bar horizontally and reduce the height of the bar significantly.
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Latest iPhone 17 Series CAD Images in Line With Redesign Rumors
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for some reason this Tenacious D interlude jumped straight into my head. (warning for bad language)
As for modern Apple design, I made up a rubbish term of 'embellished functionalism' where they make a basic shape that is the simplest solution to a mechanical issue then just fillet the edges.
Exactly! Why make the choice between a phone that makes compromises to be thin and a phone that makes compromises to be thin? Give us the option of a fat phone!
Because most people don’t want to carry around a 350+ grams brick.
So that it remains iCoNiC and doesn’t look like a Pixel clone.
I think the triangular layout makes the shift in perspective a bit less noticeable. I had an S10+ with all cameras in a straight line and you could see the image move slightly to the side when changing cameras. It was a minor detail, but it could be the reason.
Btw, these CAD images are just awful.
The bump effectively makes the phone flat when used with a case, so using some type of bump for the camera is actually space-maximizing.
You know what is the funniest thing about the entire camera protrusion going clear across the back on the Pro models? It’s specifically to allow them to add the larger 24MP front-facing camera.
It’s really really funny because the only thing that means is that Snapchat developers will simply have to ADD MORE GRAIN AND NOISE to pictures taken with it in order to counter the slightly better quality pictures.
Apple forgets: people want their selfies nice and blurry and grainy and soft in order to hide their imperfections. And mind you, that’s without any filters applied. It does that from the baseline pictures.
It’s really really funny because the only thing that means is that Snapchat developers will simply have to ADD MORE GRAIN AND NOISE to pictures taken with it in order to counter the slightly better quality pictures.
Apple forgets: people want their selfies nice and blurry and grainy and soft in order to hide their imperfections. And mind you, that’s without any filters applied. It does that from the baseline pictures.
If the extension of the camera bump meant we get ACTUAL camera upgrades (unlike the 16). We need all 3 cameras to reach parity with the main camera from the 15/16 then I'll be interested. (which would mean wider apertures of 1.8 or more.)
The only other "feature" that means anything to me would be bigger or better battery life. Everything else is boring and pointless to me.
But I mean....we're talking about a company that advertises "gen-moji" or whatever....as a feature.
The only other "feature" that means anything to me would be bigger or better battery life. Everything else is boring and pointless to me.
But I mean....we're talking about a company that advertises "gen-moji" or whatever....as a feature.
Suddenly the need for a "Christopher Nolan in your pocket" phone will diminish and folks will be saying things like "one good lens is all I really need anyways"
Book it
The opinions move as Apple changes directions
I like the design of iPhone 17 Air, and I *really* like the design of iPhone 17 Pro. It's a futuristic design. I hope these CADs are the real deal.
When Steve Jobs passed away, and Jony Ive left.
I'm ok with a Pixel like approach across the horizontal top part of the phone for all Pro phones, but that rectangle with the cameras even more bumped up, has to have Steve Jobs puking in his own grave. Well the only benefit I see is I will have zero motivation to buy a new phone every couple of years, and just go back to the habit of upgrading every end-of-life year announcement.
These things are ugly af.
These things are ugly af.
This most likely won’t happen within the next 1-2 years for iPhones.
If you compare the iPhone batteries with the ones assembled in the competitor phones there is a huge difference already.
For iPhone 15 we saw the claim that the battery can take up to 1000 charging cycles and keeping a capacity of at least 80%.
Samsung had batteries with a higher durability already years ago in their top tier phones.
Because someone at Apple thinks people are clamoring for record breaking thinness when in reality, most people couldn't care less about a few millimeters here and there.
While technically true, this observation is missing some details that are important to spatial capture. To quote a previous MacRumors article -- which describes the difference better than I could:
How that affects spatial capture is that the ultra wide lens and the main lens are used together for spatial capture; thus, they need to be lined up parallel to the body of the phone instead of diagonally, as they were on the iPhone 14 and prior. Which leads us to your next comment:
I do recognize your point -- but "better" depends upon your perspective and priorities.
If the spatial capture cameras are lined up as they are on a Pixel, you've changed the orientation of the 3d effect by 90 degrees, so that you now have to hold the phone in portrait mode to capture 3d videos. This means that for 16:9 "landscape" videos, the live preview on the phone would end up in a "letterbox" view on the screen (with big black boxes above and below the video) instead of taking up the majority of the screen as it currently does.
This isn't a difficult technological hurdle, but it would be a huge psychological hurdle for users of such a device. After all, we've all been trained to turn our cameras to landscape to capture movies... and I guarantee you, some people will simply be annoyed and never grasp the point, no matter how many times you put the explanation in front of them.
Which is to say, the "Pixel layout" may yet be coming... but it is likely to wait until Apple has perfected single lens Spatial capture, so that users don't have to change their usage habits.
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The thing is though... that we've all NOT been trained to rotate the iDevice. Many, MANY shoot everything in portrait... likely griping later about the huge black boxes left & right when watched on a wider screen like TV or monitor. You can explain to them that in the future, they need to rotate the device to landscape to capture TV screen-filling landscape video but next time that shoot something, they are right back to portrait.
I would suggest that the bulk of the world shoots in portrait because that is the habit that has taken hold. Next time you watch some sporting event and they pan the crowd, see for yourself. Or turn on the evening news and see video shot by citizens on the scene in portrait, or turn on "funniest videos" shows and look how many shoot the funny moments in portrait, etc.
So the crowd that would need to adjust would be those "in the know"... which is probably the crowd more likely to adjust. Landscape capture could then be default capture. I'd suggest Apple add a record splash screen in which user can choose the orientation they want to capture and then it could either just capture it as wanted or advise them to rotate the camera. Yes, Apple could do this with the "as is" setup now and perhaps adopt the Pixel concept VERTICALLY on the back but I was also thinking about finally resolving the wobble complaint too, which spreading them across the top would certainly do that.
I would suggest that the bulk of the world shoots in portrait because that is the habit that has taken hold. Next time you watch some sporting event and they pan the crowd, see for yourself. Or turn on the evening news and see video shot by citizens on the scene in portrait, or turn on "funniest videos" shows and look how many shoot the funny moments in portrait, etc.
So the crowd that would need to adjust would be those "in the know"... which is probably the crowd more likely to adjust. Landscape capture could then be default capture. I'd suggest Apple add a record splash screen in which user can choose the orientation they want to capture and then it could either just capture it as wanted or advise them to rotate the camera. Yes, Apple could do this with the "as is" setup now and perhaps adopt the Pixel concept VERTICALLY on the back but I was also thinking about finally resolving the wobble complaint too, which spreading them across the top would certainly do that.
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