Latest On Apple's Phone: Cingular Out, MVNO In?

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Cingular officially announced today its new mobile music service, deciding to partner with Microsoft, Napster, Yahoo! Music, XM Satellite Radio and eMusic for a subscription-based service model.

    Many have seen this event as an essential death-sentence to the rumor that Apple would be launching the 'iPhone' as Cingular-only initially. However, the possibility still exists that Apple could operate as a "mobile virtual network operator" (MVNO) on Cingular's network.

    Early this year it was discovered that Apple was seeking RF engineers with EDGE experience (EDGE is a relatively high-bandwidth mobile network for GSM carriers such as Cingular). Around the same time, Apple acquired a large datacenter in California that was originally designed for MCI WorldCom.

    A release date concerning Apple's phone has notoriously been a moving target for rumor sites to pin down. The latest consensus has appeared to pin down early 2007 with an introduction perhaps at MacWorld San Francisco, however some unconfirmed rumblings from MacRumors sources have been indicating that a spring release may also be in the cards.

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  2. rkriheli macrumors member


    Dec 11, 2002
    new york, ny
  3. OwlsAndApples macrumors 6502a


    Oct 4, 2006
    oh la la...nice to see some more developments...
  4. wyatt23 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 7, 2006
    Forest Hills, NY
  5. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

    Jan 6, 2004
    interesting. hopefully apple will release such a device for more than one carrier off the bat rather than go with an exclusive deal.
  6. prady16 macrumors 6502


    Aug 24, 2006
    Right There --->
  7. Ja Di ksw macrumors 65816

    Ja Di ksw

    Apr 9, 2003
    I'm looking forward to the final release of the iPhone (or whatever it will be called), but not the reaction on the internet. People have been wanting this for so long, that unless it comes out with as good (better?) of video as the iPod, half a year on a single charge battery life, 7 MP camera, unrestricted song playing (hahahaha), GPS, web browsing to match computers, and, I dunno, let's say a it can build you a small, live puppy out of grass, people are going to be disappointed.

    Edit: congrats prady16
  8. tcmcam macrumors member

    Jun 14, 2002
    It's T-Mobile

    Cingular is not the only GSM carrier in the USA.

    T-Mobile is pretty big too. They have just purchased a ton of bandwidth for new high-speed services.

    Remember the T-Mobile CEO saying "we have a similar vision as Apple" ?

    That's why Cingular went with Microsoft, they know they didn't win over Apple. So, this is most likely going to be a T-Mobile partnership (whose corporate parent has a HUGE presence in Europe).
  9. slackersonly macrumors 6502a


    Apr 13, 2006
    the iPhone has the be the biggest rumor engine of them all.

    i think phasers with stun may be available sooner than this product.
  10. mahonmeister macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2006
    Redlands, CA
    Lol. Somebody didn't have the built in spell-checker turned on.

    The iPhone will have to be very innovative to be a hit. Seeing that mockup posted awhile back, I'm not particularly excited. What will make it better then any other music phone out there? If anyone can do it, Apple can.
  11. donlphi macrumors 6502


    May 25, 2006
    Seattle (M$ Country)
    I would prefer to see Apple connect with an EVDO carrier... Apple Airport extreme cards with EV-DO?

    Thank god they got rid of cingular, or visa versa... TOO SLOOOOW. :D
  12. TheBobcat macrumors 6502


    Nov 1, 2006
    East Lansing, Michigan
    I would suspect perhaps the iPhone available with several different carriers. Do you really think Apple would go the MVNO route with only one phone to sell? Unless a smattering of iPhones are coming at us, I would suspect that it'll available just through GSM carriers. However, Apple could look to minimize risk by taking a bunch of money for exclusive rights to say, T-Mobile, but it doesn't seem like the Apple thing to do.
  13. buffalo macrumors 65816

    Jun 5, 2005
    Colorado Springs / Ohio
    enough of these darn iPhone rumors. I really need a new phone but don't want to wait until January / Spring. And since I have verizon, it probably won't work for either.
  14. dr_lha macrumors 68000

    Oct 8, 2003
    It would make no sense for Apple to go with a CDMA technology though. GSM is used by almost everyone in the world bar a few markets. With a GSM phone they have the whole European market for phones for example, with a CDMA phone they have a market limited to mainly Verizon and the few other carriers around the world who use CDMA (IIRC, some in S. Korea, some in Brazil and perhaps some other in North and South America).

    Apple most likely don't want to have to make loads of different phones, so I'd expect the iPhone to be GSM Quad Band, therefore covering the largests possible market for mobile phones.
  15. mowenbrown macrumors newbie

    Oct 6, 2005
    GSM is not compatible with EVDO, all things considered I would put my money on a quad-band GSM phone as it would give you the largest subscriber base globally with a single unit. Also gives you global roaming.

    Besides – Sprint & Verizon are like the Microsofts of the telco world. I can’t give them money, and I really want a smart phone that works with my new MBP.
  16. tobefirst macrumors 68040


    Jan 24, 2005
    St. Louis, MO
    This is essentially what ESPN did. Oh...wait. You're telling me that didn't work out so well? (;
  17. jonny3t macrumors newbie


    Mar 28, 2006
    Silicon Valley
    I've recently confirmed as unconfirmed some unsubstantiated rumors from trusted unreliable resources that the plants -> puppy feature is going to be in rev b 3 months after the first iCelly lands on the moon in 15 seconds!@! :eek:

    I, too, am dreading whatever internet fanboy nit-pick reaction on this if and when it happens...

    I always like the last 20 seconds of this one: [youtube warning!] - Where the @%! is my iPhone? :D
  18. ironjaw macrumors 6502

    May 23, 2006
    Cold Copenhagen
    I'm pretty happy with my K800i Sony Ericsson with 3MP camera:D
  19. BWhaler macrumors 68030


    Jan 8, 2003
    Man, I really want Apple to get in this space.

    Every phone on the market sucks.

    The carriers are all dirt bags.

    The integration between phone and computer is not happening since MS sucks, and there are too many walls between the players.

    This is a huge market. Dive in Apple and change the game yet again.

    We're waiting with our wallets open.
  20. longofest Editor emeritus


    Jul 10, 2003
    Falls Church, VA
    Fracking Internet Explorer (don't ask... I HAVE to use it :( )
  21. prady16 macrumors 6502


    Aug 24, 2006
    Right There --->
    QFT....every word of it!
  22. mike n macrumors member

    mike n

    Nov 2, 2006
    Pittsburgh, PA
    ironically, you misspelled "misspelled."


    -mike n
  23. kansast macrumors member


    Jul 18, 2002
    what does "(MVNO) on Cingular's network" mean ? In my area, Cingular absolutely STINKS.. even the city council called in Cingular reps to #$@# them out. It's been absolutely terrible since the AT&T/Cingular buyout.

    I've since switched to Verizon which has a great network in our area anyway.. but I hate the phones.

  24. iMikeT macrumors 68020

    Jul 8, 2006
    I'm already with Cingular. I hope that I don't have to switch carriers so I can have an iPhone.

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