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Later I will post a list of the apps that I approve of. I would appreciate all of you complying with my will. I will not require each of you to download all of my approved apps as long as you don't have any apps not on my list. If you find an app you think would benefit you, please feel free to submit it to me for consideration. Whether I am familiar with it or not I will make a snap judgement to decide if you can download it. Keep in mind, any previous experience you've had with apps that I have never used will not carry any weight in my decision as even if I have never used it I still know what is best for you. Resistance is futile.
 
Later I will post a list of the apps that I approve of. I would appreciate all of you complying with my will. I will not require each of you to download all of my approved apps as long as you don't have any apps not on my list. If you find an app you think would benefit you, please feel free to submit it to me for consideration. Whether I am familiar with it or not I will make a snap judgement to decide if you can download it. Keep in mind, any previous experience you've had with apps that I have never used will not carry any weight in my decision as even if I have never used it I still know what is best for you. Resistance is futile.

You also need to include, "At any given time and without notice I can remove an approved app without reason or just cause."
 
You also need to include, "At any given time and without notice I can remove an approved app without reason or just cause."
Thank you, my lawyer will send the paperwork over to put you on a retainer to further examine my position to determine any additional oversights.
 
I don't see the point in this widget. Seeing information at a glance is one thing, but having a launcher in the notification panel, when you can just unlock your device and choose from any app installed, is useless.

Not arguing just citing an example, this is what makes the app. useful (to me at least)

Change a keyboard: Unlock>Settings>General>keyboard

with launcher: Notification center>Select Keyboard Launcher

Sure thats not a daunting task for anyone, but when you have 20 folders, many with more than 10 apps. its a bit more time consuming, especially when I forget what folder settings is in... :D

Yes I could remove all those apps. and make it simple, YES I could put settings in the dock, YES there are a ton of other things I could do... point is I like the way I have it setup, and launcher has made it just that much simpler!! It all boils down to personal preference. I wouldn't say its completely useless, I don't have a clue what the stocks app is for, but it doesn't make it useless.
 

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Later I will post a list of the apps that I approve of. I would appreciate all of you complying with my will. I will not require each of you to download all of my approved apps as long as you don't have any apps not on my list. If you find an app you think would benefit you, please feel free to submit it to me for consideration. Whether I am familiar with it or not I will make a snap judgement to decide if you can download it. Keep in mind, any previous experience you've had with apps that I have never used will not carry any weight in my decision as even if I have never used it I still know what is best for you. Resistance is futile.

Meh, I can see Apple's side of this one. Use an android phone for a little while and try and find an app on googleplay, after digging through tons of crap that some developer out of China threw on there that really has no function or use, and you'll know what I mean, Cydia is a thousand times worse. I agree that Apple should ease up a bit, but letting any Tom, Dick, or Harry put trash in the app. store sucks. (not that it doesn't happen from time to time, but the instances are far fewer in the app store than they are on googleplay, and Cydia)
 
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If you choose to give up functionality for the looks for what concerns your home screen, you are not using it the way it is designed for: to make it easy to access frequently used apps, without having to resort to madness, or third party launchers. You are free to misuse it, of course, and end up having to rely on a third party launcher.

You are starting to sound suspiciously like an Apple employee!

I choose to layout my home screen exactly how I want, I did this before Launcher was released and never had an issue. Launcher only adds convenience. If the Home screen is supposed to be populated by your most used apps then why can I leave it blank, why are there multiple pages beyond the home screen? Hell, why does iOS not automatically manage the home screen with my most used apps stored there?
I didn't realise I was misusing my iPhone home page - I feel so bad for it now. Why is this misuse not highlighted as a warning on the side of the box before you open up the iPhone so I and others know better? Is this the reason why iPhone 6's reported bend, not enough icons on the home screen to balance things up?
All of this does not hide from the fact that this app goes beyond just simply launching an app in the same fashion if you had just manually tapped it's icon!
 
You are starting to sound suspiciously like an Apple employee!

I choose to layout my home screen exactly how I want, I did this before Launcher was released and never had an issue. Launcher only adds convenience. If the Home screen is supposed to be populated by your most used apps then why can I leave it blank, why are there multiple pages beyond the home screen? Hell, why does iOS not automatically manage the home screen with my most used apps stored there?
I didn't realise I was misusing my iPhone home page - I feel so bad for it now. Why is this misuse not highlighted as a warning on the side of the box before you open up the iPhone so I and others know better? Is this the reason why iPhone 6's reported bend, not enough icons on the home screen to balance things up?
All of this does not hide from the fact that this app goes beyond just simply launching an app in the same fashion if you had just manually tapped it's icon!

You sound like you should buy an Android Device
 
Work harder? That made me chuckle a bit.
You do realise we are talking about "swipe + tap" vs "tap + tap". Right? :)

Are you aware that you can add custom abbreviations, if you must send repetitive texts?
Or that you can ask Siri to perform tasks for you?

As I stated, if you learn to use your home screen properly, you'd never want to have any sort of launcher. The home screen is supposed to be just that.

Yes, and isn't fewer taps more efficient? What makes me laugh is that you provide one example where Apple has given us the ability to use fewer taps (custom abbreviations) yet here you are arguing against an app that would do exactly that.

Why can't you accept that some people find this useful? What compels you to dismiss their opinion when you give an example of something similar and present it as a benefit??
 
Meh, I can see Apple's side of this one. Use an android phone for a little while and try and find an app on googleplay, after digging through tons of crap that some developer out of China threw on there that really has no function or use, and you'll know what I mean, Cydia is a thousand times worse. I agree that Apple should ease up a bit, but letting any Tom, Dick, or Harry put trash in the app. store sucks. (not that it doesn't happen from time to time, but the instances are far fewer in the app store than they are on googleplay, and Cydia)

I think you're missing a huge point to this. Launcher was review and APPROVED into the App Store. Once it gained popularity and notoriety in some of the Tech press it was then pulled. I believe Apple is really not reviewing apps (or at least close enough to understand their core functionality) that Apple is planning on incorporating this in a later release of iOS 8 natively.
 
Change a keyboard: Unlock>Settings>General>keyboard

with launcher: Notification center>Select Keyboard Launcher

You are/were able to access applications and tasks from this widget without unlocking the phone?

Sure thats not a daunting task for anyone, but when you have 20 folders, most with more than 10 apps. its a bit more time consuming, especially when I forget what folder settings is in... :D

Yes I could remove all those apps. and make it simple, YES I could put settings in the dock, YES there are a ton of other things I could do... point is I like the way I have it setup, and launcher has made it just that much simpler!! It all boils down to personal preference. I wouldn't say its completely useless, I don't have a clue what the stocks app is for, but it doesn't make it useless.

I'm not posting to change anyone's mind, but to express my view on it.
That said, if you have terrible (sorry :) ) management skills for your home screen, I could see you having trouble even using a launcher, at some point.
Do you really use all those apps that often?

You are starting to sound suspiciously like an Apple employee!

I choose to layout my home screen exactly how I want, I did this before Launcher was released and never had an issue. Launcher only adds convenience. If the Home screen is supposed to be populated by your most used apps then why can I leave it blank, why are there multiple pages beyond the home screen? Hell, why does iOS not automatically manage the home screen with my most used apps stored there?

Your point there is not valid.
The home screen is a launcher. You can choose to use it at its best, which means managing the apps that you find yourself using the most, or the opposite: hiding most used apps in folders, or in far away screens.
Just because you aren't using the home screen efficiently does not mean it can't be. It just means you chose to cripple it.

I didn't realise I was misusing my iPhone home page - I feel so bad for it now. Why is this misuse not highlighted as a warning on the side of the box before you open up the iPhone so I and others know better? Is this the reason why iPhone 6's reported bend, not enough icons on the home screen to balance things up?
All of this does not hide from the fact that this app goes beyond just simply launching an app in the same fashion if you had just manually tapped it's icon!

That sounds pretty bad, it wasn't funny at all. :rolleyes:

As I said, you can choose to make a good use of your stock launcher, or not. It would be in Apple's interest giving tips to users on how to manage it better perhaps.

As a side note, I suggest you keep your screen luminosity at 100%, bluetooth and wifi active at all times; since Apple isn't enforcing it, you must do it, because it provides outstanding battery life. :rolleyes:
 
Yes, and isn't fewer taps more efficient? What makes me laugh is that you provide one example where Apple has given us the ability to use fewer taps (custom abbreviations) yet here you are arguing against an app that would do exactly that.

But that is the point: learn to use the features that exist. :confused:

Why can't you accept that some people find this useful? What compels you to dismiss their opinion when you give an example of something similar and present it as a benefit??

You seem pretty confused. I have no interest in accepting that such a widget can be useful to some - and in particular, I am not denying that -: I am posting here to discuss some aspects of it.
 
I think you're missing a huge point to this. Launcher was review and APPROVED into the App Store. Once it gained popularity and notoriety in some of the Tech press it was then pulled. I believe Apple is really not reviewing apps (or at least close enough to understand their core functionality) that Apple is planning on incorporating this in a later release of iOS 8 natively.

No, I got the point. That sounds a bit like paranoia "everyone liked it so Apple felt threatened, Apple pulled it" Thats silly! I get that, "the app. being pulled was stupid", I get that "how it was done was shady," I get that "Apple changing rules without cause angers developers, and consumers alike." BUT, there has to be an audit process, Apple can't predict every little scenario that developers can code in to existence. They also can't feasibly test every function, of every app submitted prior to approving it, the approval process would take months, maybe years (picture the DMV, or the patent office for example). Thats the point of the user agreement, and the developer agreement that every iPhone user, and every developer clicks "I Accept" it says that Apple reserves the right to change the rules. The "they pulled it because they have a native app planned" argument is also a bit far fetched, if that was the case there would be no third party reminder apps, or navigation apps. I'm not arguing that Apple is above making stupid decisions in this regard. Hell I love Launcher, I also liked textremind, VLC player, and a number of other apps that Apple pulled, doesn't mean they didn't violate the rules written, implied, or made up after the fact.

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You are/were able to access applications and tasks from this widget without unlocking the phone?



I'm not posting to change anyone's mind, but to express my view on it.
That said, if you have terrible (sorry :) ) management skills for your home screen, I could see you having trouble even using a launcher, at some point.
Do you really use all those apps that often?


Terrible is in your opinion only :D, but honestly the answer is NO I don't use them all often, but when I need them I don't want to have to search for them and wait for them to DL. It seems as soon as I tell myself "I don't need this app." and delete it, I need it again lol its a never ending cycle. I do, however, go through and delete apps. pretty regularly, these are just the ones that I tend to use on a more frequent basis. Many of them are to pay bills, or something to do with work.
 
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Your point there is not valid.
The home screen is a launcher. You can choose to use it at its best, which means managing the apps that you find yourself using the most, or the opposite: hiding most used apps in folders, or in far away screens.
Just because you aren't using the home screen efficiently does not mean it can't be. It just means you chose to cripple it.

The home screen can be a launcher. It can also be used to view a background with the dock at the bottom considered the launcher. It's surely up to the user how they lay this out. The Launcher app gives me extra flexibility in that choice. It's the very reason why Apple let you set a wallpaper; if it was always covered by apps then what would be the point?
Of course I could just populate the entire home page with my favourite or most used apps but what happens if you fill this? Would there not be any benefit in having a launcher available for these extra apps?

Anyway, back to the serious comment I made in my last post. The launcher can do much more than simply launching an app as if you had just manually tapped it so even if you don't see the merits in a basic launcher, do you not see the value in being able to launch an app with specified variables?
 
Wtf is that legit? Apple has decided not to let you launch other apps with a widget?

Asinine.

Apple has long had a rule against apps that emulate base functions of iOS. Launcher is copying the home screen so it falls into that realm. As for the whole NC widget thing, if a developer chooses to or not to have such access that should be the original developers right
 
Thanks for watching out for me, oh Walled Garden.

Another example of Apple turning into the type of company that we used to shun.
 
But that is the point: learn to use the features that exist.

For what it is worth, I prefer to be as stock as possible when it comes to an OS. I don't use every delivered feature of iOS but if they included a launcher feature in iOS, I for one would use it. You clearly wouldn't. No big deal either way.

The delivered launcher for your most used apps is actually the dock on the bottom of the screen which is why it is always present regardless of which page you are on. The notification centre offers similar flexibility and is easily available from any page or within an app.

It's interesting that OSX and iOS are going for the flatter, more minimalist visual approach yet having the home page cluttered up with app icons is how Apple would want. You can easily stick shortcuts to all your favourite apps on your desktop on the Mac and yet they introduce a feature called launchpad which is exactly that - a launcher.

I like my home page on iOS devices to be free of app icons and my Max desktop is exactly the same.
 
But that is the point: learn to use the features that exist. :confused:

Yes, you seem to be confused. The features that exist do not accomplish this task. Unless you know of a feature the rest of us are unaware of?

Now, I could stack Launcher and one of those features. I could use launcher to open my messaging app directly to my gf and then simply type "wfs" which is my abbreviation for "walking from subway". That would be nice and efficient.
 
Apple has long had a rule against apps that emulate base functions of iOS. Launcher is copying the home screen so it falls into that realm.

This is where Apple does frustrate me. They are happy to have Web browsers in the app store but they were not allowed to act as the system default browser and there were not allowed to use part of the delivered rendering engine (or something similar) which meant Safari always had the edge in performance.
They now allow third party keyboards which was always a no no before. They are now allowing widgets which were never allowed before but again, there are enforced limitations.

I just wish Apple would be more consistent with their principles and philosophy.
 
Dear Donka, sorry for the multiple quotes incoming.

The home screen can be a launcher. It can also be used to view a background with the dock at the bottom considered the launcher. It's surely up to the user how they lay this out. The Launcher app gives me extra flexibility in that choice. It's the very reason why Apple let you set a wallpaper; if it was always covered by apps then what would be the point?
Of course I could just populate the entire home page with my favourite or most used apps but what happens if you fill this? Would there not be any benefit in having a launcher available for these extra apps?

Again, you are resorting to use a third party tool because you chose not to use your home screen in an efficient way - holding apps you use often.
I have no interest in discussing that. It is like complaining about a feature that exists, but that you decided to avoid using.

If you organise your home screen better, you would have no use for a launcher to give you shortcuts to apps. If you don't want to organise it, that works for you, but it doesn't make the app any more useful than that.

Anyway, back to the serious comment I made in my last post. The launcher can do much more than simply launching an app as if you had just manually tapped it so even if you don't see the merits in a basic launcher, do you not see the value in being able to launch an app with specified variables?

I have expressed a thought on that in a previous post. Having some utility that would let you create icons to place on a screen to perform automated tasks would be a good idea, provided Apple can offer a secure for this to happen.
It doesn't make much sense to have such links to tasks in the notification center however, since those are not notifications but direct actions.
That said, I don't see Apple coming up with such an utility: it would be greatly redundant, in tasks that are very simple to perform.

For what it is worth, I prefer to be as stock as possible when it comes to an OS. I don't use every delivered feature of iOS but if they included a launcher feature in iOS, I for one would use it. You clearly wouldn't. No big deal either way.

The delivered launcher for your most used apps is actually the dock on the bottom of the screen which is why it is always present regardless of which page you are on. The notification centre offers similar flexibility and is easily available from any page or within an app.

I have more than 4 apps that I use most often, so my home screen serves me as my launcher. But as for the rest, I agree with you.

Yes, you seem to be confused. The features that exist do not accomplish this task. Unless you know of a feature the rest of us are unaware of?

If the only way for you to send a text message, or place a call, was through the widget launcher, then I will suggest you place a call to an Apple Store to get an appointment. They are pretty good at explaining things. ;)

Now, I could stack Launcher and one of those features. I could use launcher to open my messaging app directly to my gf and then simply type "walking from subway" which is my abbreviation for "walking from subway". That would be nice and efficient.

Because, opening the messages app, and tapping on the person you want to message with, is such a hard task to do on your own. :rolleyes:
 
If the only way for you to send a text message, or place a call, was through the widget launcher, then I will suggest you place a call to an Apple Store to get an appointment. They are pretty good at explaining things. ;)



Because, opening the messages app, and tapping on the person you want to message with, is such a hard task to do on your own. :rolleyes:

I'll make a reservation for you so that they can explain to you that the abbreviations don't launch apps.

And no, opening the phone, locating the app, opening it, locating a person, opening them...is not hard. But writing then a letter wasn't hard either. However, times have changed and we have found more efficient ways to do things. But feel free to stay stuck in the past if you prefer.
 
I'll make a reservation for you so that they can explain to you that the abbreviations don't launch apps.

I have never stated that abbreviations can launch apps.
Where exactly did you get that? Do show us, please.

And no, opening the phone, locating the app, opening it, locating a person, opening them...is not hard. But writing then a letter wasn't hard either. However, times have changed and we have found more efficient ways to do things. But feel free to stay stuck in the past if you prefer.

You are comparing letter/text message with how-everybody-has-always-texted-someone/removed-widget-for-uber-lazy-people. A ridiculous comparison.
I can't but reply this: read the previous posts, and if you have nothing to add, you can refrain to post.
Thank you. :rolleyes:
 
I have never stated that abbreviations can launch apps.
Where exactly did you get that? Do show us, please.



You are comparing letter/text message with how-everybody-has-always-texted-someone/removed-widget-for-uber-lazy-people. A ridiculous comparison.
I can't but reply this: read the previous posts, and if you have nothing to add, you can refrain to post.
Thank you. :rolleyes:
Lol, you still don't get how a widget that makes something more efficient is more efficient? i think you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

I simply gave an extreme example. If you can't understand that then you'll never understand why Launcher was a great idea.
 
I have never stated that abbreviations can launch apps.
Where exactly did you get that? Do show us, please.



You are comparing letter/text message with how-everybody-has-always-texted-someone/removed-widget-for-uber-lazy-people. A ridiculous comparison.
I can't but reply this: read the previous posts, and if you have nothing to add, you can refrain to post.
Thank you. :rolleyes:

Removing a step doesn't always imply laziness, hence it doesn't always make people lazy. I mean I don't have to go in to DOS on my work computer anymore to open apps. By that logic every computer user on the planet (aside from maybe the Iranian military, they probably still use DOS on their state of the art 1970's missile guidance computers) is lazy because they don't use a command line prompt to open Facebook. :D:D Just messing with ya!!
 
Dear Donka, sorry for the multiple quotes incoming.



Again, you are resorting to use a third party tool because you chose not to use your home screen in an efficient way - holding apps you use often.
I have no interest in discussing that. It is like complaining about a feature that exists, but that you decided to avoid using.

If you organise your home screen better, you would have no use for a launcher to give you shortcuts to apps. If you don't want to organise it, that works for you, but it doesn't make the app any more useful than that.

Last one from me on this subject, I promise. :)

For me I am using my home screen in a way that suits me - it has the first picture of our new born child. All my apps are available on the second page which is merely a swipe away. I don't have to resort to a widget launcher app because I could already do that - swipe to the second page and tap the icon. This is all personal preference.
Lets just say I am in an app and needed to quickly jump to another app, even if it was on my home page. I would need to hit the home button to exit the current app, hit home button again to get to the home page (if not already on it) and then hit the icon. Using the launcher I would just swipe and hit the relevant icon. Marginally quicker but quicker none the less. That is an increase in efficiency right there. That is even quicker than accessing an already running app through Apple's delivered method of multitasking which would involved a double tap, swipe to find it and then tap.

This app simply allows is to something in a method Apple doesn't deliver and in many cases, more efficiently.
 
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