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I got a little angry and didn't say it clearly as I should have. I'm just saying Apple should drop charges, it'd be good PR. Plus I think this whole thing (while legally theft) stems from a stupid move by Apple.

Testing a phone is stupid?
 
I got a little angry and didn't say it clearly as I should have. I'm just saying Apple should drop charges, it'd be good PR. Plus I think this whole thing (while legally theft) stems from a stupid move by Apple.

As far as I can tell, Apple has not filed any charges - they are complying with an investigation that the police is initiating. Nowhere in the original CNET article is it stated that Apple has filed charges nor does it indicated that they need to file charges. In fact CNET claims that it would be the state that would file charges.
 
Ahem

Move along folks. Nothing to see here.:D
 

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Laws are made by humans and are fallible. They are often overturned or changed. Even our own constitution has been amended dozens of times. Just because someone says something should be one way doesn't make it "right." Heck, just because the majority thinks something should be some way doesn't make it "right." Slavery was once permitted under "law." Sometimes it's just better to use common sense.

One guy got drunk like a fool and abandoned his property. Someone else found it. Good for him. Hopefully Apple has learned a lesson and will hire more competent people in the future.

So you are comparing the ethics of keeping something you found to slavery?

So telling people they legally have to find the owner is an atrocity? Gosh, the law wants you to actually be fair to other people, the horrors!!!

One hopes you lose something really valuable and some one with your attitude comes around and takes it. I hope it happens to you every single time you lose something and you never get lucky and have an honest person find it. Obviously you think it's ok.

Sure, I agree if it happened to me I'd say I made a mistake. But I still wouldn't think it was ok if some one took it without making *real* efforts to return it to me (and not just token efforts to cover their butts from the law.. which btw says to me that the person knew it was wrong/stealing when they make efforts to cover it up).
 
Testing a phone is stupid?

way to put words in my mouth, no testing a phone is not stupid. Letting secret products out in the wild is stupid. It's like giving an engineer a mini computer (that can be easily misplaced) with 10.7 on it.
 
I would find it strange if Apple Inc. would just let Gawker Sux. get away with this. As it would set a precedence for situations like this. Steal trade secret stuff, we will pay!

Gizmodo has become more and more a TMZ tabloid than a tech blog. I just find it a shame that Lifehacker is part of the Gawker network. Gina, we love you.
 
As a company Apple knows then when they allow an employee to take a future device off campus they have to assume all the risk that comes with it. If it wasn't stolen then they're out of luck.
 
way to put words in my mouth, no testing a phone is not stupid. Letting secret products out in the wild is stupid. It's like giving an engineer a mini computer (that can be easily misplaced) with 10.7 on it.

So according to you, field testing is unnecessary? Or is that putting words in your mouth?
 
way to put words in my mouth, no testing a phone is not stupid. Letting secret products out in the wild is stupid. It's like giving an engineer a mini computer (that can be easily misplaced) with 10.7 on it.

That’s not a fair comparison. One of the things that phone makers have to do is perform field tests that cannot be completely done in house and have to be done in real world scenarios.

That doesn’t have any bearing on the case’s merits however.
 
As a company Apple knows then when they allow an employee to take a future device off campus they have to assume all the risk that comes with it. If it wasn't stolen then they're out of luck.

Sorry, that is just not possible - the Penal code of California trumps anything like that.
 
As a company Apple knows then when they allow an employee to take a future device off campus they have to assume all the risk that comes with it. If it wasn't stolen then they're out of luck.

Not really, sorry.

TUAW has a lawyer on staff and she wrote a good piece regarding the legalities of the situation, including Apple's responsibility.
 
So according to you, field testing is unnecessary? Or is that putting words in your mouth?

No I'm just saying putting something out, then expecting it to be 100% secret is just dumb, but as someone said this has no bearing on the case. So it's just my opinion, it's illegal by the current laws.
 
No I'm just saying putting something out, then expecting it to be 100% secret is just dumb, but as someone said this has no bearing on the case. So it's just my opinion, it's illegal by the current laws.

Yeah it is just dumb buddy. :rolleyes:
 
So the police are like "hey we have time on are hands, let's go after a guy for selling a phone." Yes you do need to press charges. Further more yes Steve Jobs is a prick "hey we are so secretive, but we give top secret devices out to buffoons" this whole thing is like ford making a top secret car that no one is supposed to know about. Then giving each engineer a car to drive. Bad judgment call Steve, suck it up.

No, you do NOT need to press charges. And if you read the story you will note that it was the DISTRICT ATTORNEY, not the police, that decided to initiate this.
 
No, you do NOT need to press charges. And if you read the story you will note that it was the DISTRICT ATTORNEY, not the police, that decided to initiate this.

And when it is all said and done (assuming they do decide to go ahead) it will be that DA who will press charges.
 
Apple is staying silent but they are probably waiting until after or close to the release to make a move. Looking at their track record they are not the type to let something like this go.
 
I would like to propose a new law that requires all operating systems to present the user with an IQ test whenever they log on.

If the user achieves a minimum result, the computer allows them to log on but blocks them from the Internet.

If they achieve a moderate result the Internet is fully accessible.

If they fail to achieve the minimum result 3 times in a row, the room the user occupies is automatically sealed shut and all the air is immediately pumped out.

Do it for the children.
 
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