Anyone can make unauthorized repairs. The parts are available online. If this feature wasn't there, and an "unauthorized repair" could be used as an exploit.... The same people would still be shouting, "Sue them! It shouldn't be that way! Apple should know better! This is egregious!....
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Law Firms Consider 'Error 53' Lawsuits Against Apple as Some Stores Authorized for Repairs
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It doesn't but it'd be foolish to think they'd get away with it if they're indeed an AASP.
There are nicer ways to tell a person they are wrong is all I am saying. Unsure I have seen you show that ability once. Regardless, I have said what I had to say. Carry on in whatever way you feel is necessary.
while they may be Authorized Apple Service Providers, NOT ALL are able to repair iPhones or iPads and/or they used cheap third party parts to compensate the lack of price per repair from Apple.
Regardless its about the security and purpose of the touch id to protect critical data
Regardless its about the security and purpose of the touch id to protect critical data
For $9 more you could have had the real thing if it was an iPhone 6 display. I don't understand it either...
Well ain't no one got the time to spend time and resources "convincing" skeptics - that's your choice, meh.
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I just know that if it was me with this issue and my device was working fine before they bricked it I can guarantee you that would have been my last Apple device. Some people here take too much **** from these phone OEM's. I left Samsung because their software updating policy stinks. I'm not going to sit on forums and bitch and moan to faceless people. I will dump whoever screwed me like a bag of hot potatoes.
Remember that your wallet has the loudest voice.
Remember that your wallet has the loudest voice.
People seem to like the car analogies. I feel we all benefit from the openness of the aftermarket parts industry, I wouldn't like it if post-warranty I had to purchase an OEM alternator or the vehicle would reject the part. That said, I'm fine with having to pay $400 for a replacement key fob when it controls access to the vehicle itself; and in that case (so far) it doesn't even have access to personal data. If my key fob also provided access to my credit cards and medical information I'd be perfectly fine with the manufacturer refusing to allow third party products and configurations to connect to my vehicle control system. To me that would not be anti-competitive, it would be a security issue and - in my opinion - reasonable.
Actually, even in that PDF you linked to it says "never sent to Apple or backed up to iCloud." It cleverly does not say it never leaves the device. I wish you had the time and resources to convince me otherwise. I'm not sure why I should *just trust* Apple, even though I do like their products.
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That means that "some" Apple "stores" have been "authorized" to perform "repairs" on third-party displays that would have otherwise been denied service. It's not talking about AASP.
Which one is safety and which is security? If Apple is concern about the security or safety of their customers. Why not implement the feature since TouchID was implemented back on iOS 7. The person that was reported on this site only happens after updating to iOS 9. His phone works perfectly fine for awhile and all of a sudden Error53 showed up after the update. Then Apple forcing him to buy a new phone that's bs imo!
Do you know about support and electronics hardware repair, and what you're asking of them? Seems not. People are often VERY stupid when handed a screwdriver and a "kit" from t'internetz, thinking they're gonna "open an iPhone repair shop" on the back of their total experience being ONE LCD change, and then they file for a "LTD Company" name, and... oh dear...
You're right. Let me tie my fingerprint to location data, financial info, personal conversations and all kinds of other info about my life so Apple can send it to the NSA. What could go wrong?
If you want their number, I'll PM it to you so they can retrofit your house.
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Do you know about support and electronics hardware repair, and what you're asking of them? Seems not. People are often VERY stupid when handed a screwdriver and a "kit" from t'internetz, thinking they're gonna "open an iPhone repair shop" on the back of their total experience being ONE LCD change, and then they file for a "LTD Company" name, and... oh dear...
Main problem would be the screws people leave out
Well I can see the woods... and the trees... and they're not too close, so I have a clear perspective
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Main problem would be the screws people leave out
Apologies, you've totally lost me... why am I clicking your profile? :-S
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Main problem would be the screws people leave out
I think there's a lot of loose screws this week...
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Right. But if you go to Billy Bob's garage and they install, say, an air filter and it allows a rock into your engine and destroys it they will void your warranty on the engine. Your recourse would be with e manufacturer of the filter and/or Billy Bob.
Same thing applies here.
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I agree with what you say, and it's more palatable for the ID component. But for the screen replacement to get this error, really? One could argue that Apple is using their position in an abusive manner. For a screen, I think the error is completely uncalled for. If there replacement price was semi responsible and not outrageously expensive, I would be ok with Apple wanting to authenticate the part It's so simple to change these components, they are really just taking advantage of non-tech people.
Funny how the Article says Apple may be trying to head this issue off by replacing parts for people who encounter the 53 error. I really don't believe the error for the screen was based on "their security model."
In my experience, Apple repairs are not even that good. They are too lazy to bend back a tiny bit of frame (i'm talking about tiny tiny tiny adjustments that take two seconds - from personal experience). They will try and sell you a new device. This is when these third party repairs save the day!
But I do agree with the ID component, that the risk may be higher for malware.
I agree with what you say, and it's more palatable for the ID component. But for the screen replacement to get this error, really? One could argue that Apple is using their position in an abusive manner. For a screen, I think the error is completely uncalled for. If there replacement price was semi responsible and not outrageously expensive, I would be ok with Apple wanting to authenticate the part It's so simple to change these components, they are really just taking advantage of non-tech people.
Funny how the Article says Apple may be trying to head this issue off by replacing parts for people who encounter the 53 error. I really don't believe the error for the screen was based on "their security model."
In my experience, Apple repairs are not even that good. They are too lazy to bend back a tiny bit of frame (i'm talking about tiny tiny tiny adjustments that take two seconds - from personal experience). They will try and sell you a new device. This is when these third party repairs save the day!
But I do agree with the ID component, that the risk may be higher for malware.
That's the problem - they didn't use approved hardware. Why is that so hard to understand?
Sigh....people who have bricked phones because apple wants all repairs to be made by them are considered whining. It's not that folks don't understand the issue, it's that Apple fans will defend Apple at all costs regardless because, well it's Apple. I believe these rationally upset customers have every right to be upset in the way in which Apple has handled this. As a US customer I have every right to seek a 3rd party solution. Apple should supply a way to have the Touch ID reauthenticate for a very minimum charge And any Touch ID sensor removed from an apple device should be rendered useless unless it is reauthenticated with its original phone. Any one on iOS 8 should be warned that an upgrade will render the device useless until the Touch ID sensors are reauthenticated. There is a plethora of better ways this could have been handled. To say people are whining is simply stupid.
