Lawmakers Question Apple and Google on Personal Data Collection Policies

[Kabeyun]

I can see their names since we need them to register to use / order our product tho this is going to be stopped soon cuz we don’t need it but the fact that it is possible is creepy

Could be indeed. I don’t know what the users opted in to allow, what your app needs (and discloses it needs), what iOS discloses your app needs, or how Apple safeguards it if they do retain it. As an end user, I’ve been pleased with the latter two so far.

 

[MacBH928]

Apple is the lesser of 2 evils, at least they make their money by selling products and not offering them for free. They are also have never been in any data-sharing exposing collecting scandal. Their main business is not to collect and sell your data.

This does not mean they do not collect and store your data, but I hope they are ethical enough to give a choice for people to delete ALL their data or or specific parts of it.

I still feel there should be more competition in the market, because basically what is happening is that they are bullying us into accepting the terms&services since there aren't really any other options. Google for search or Yahoo, iOS or Android, MacOS or Windows, Gmail, Yahoo, or Outlook. Linux is not a real alternative, an alternative have to be equally competing.

I know recently there has been good alternatives as in ProtonMail, DDG, Firefox and Brave browser which is a great step and many people are adopting them. We need more of this.
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That's fine. You are subsidizing your phone via a company selling your information to target ads at you, I'm overpaying for mine so it doesn't. We all have choices and some people love "free" services and don't care that their data is mined (to an extent) to target advertising messages at them. The world is a beautiful place.

One time, a guy said, if you don't care about your privacy give me your e-mail and accounts username and passwords. No one ever did.

 

[ignatius345]

Now, as this stuff is still developing, is the time for us all to be pushing for strong privacy laws and ownership of our own data. I trust Apple more than Google, but they all need to be bound by laws with real penalties attached.

 

[cmwade77]

Just remember these are the same lawmakers that want Apple and others to build backdoors to allow access to encrypted data.
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Apple is the lesser of 2 evils, at least they make their money by selling products and not offering them for free. They are also have never been in any data-sharing exposing collecting scandal. Their main business is not to collect and sell your data.

This does not mean they do not collect and store your data, but I hope they are ethical enough to give a choice for people to delete ALL their data or or specific parts of it.

Correction: They haven't been caught in a scandal YET, the bottom line is they have your data, you know darn well they are selling said data, perhaps aggregating it and making it anonymous, but they are selling it in some shape or form.
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Now, as this stuff is still developing, is the time for us all to be pushing for strong privacy laws and ownership of our own data. I trust Apple more than Google, but they all need to be bound by laws with real penalties attached.

I actually trust Google slightly more because they flat out tell you in plain simple English what they are doing with your data, Apple buries it in legalese and there is plenty to allow them to sell your data.

 

[ignatius345]

I actually trust Google slightly more because they flat out tell you in plain simple English what they are doing with your data, Apple buries it in legalese and there is plenty to allow them to sell your data.

The level of information we have about our own privacy of data is pretty thin and spin-prone. You "trust" Google more. I "trust" Apple more. At the end of the day, we need laws.