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LCD iMac in Paris?

no new LCD iMac Confirmed!

Don't know if any of you have seen this, but I have a connection with Apple's advertising company and this is what they're saving for September...

http://www.poop.com/pics/044.jpg

I guess this confirms that there's no new LCD iMac...
 
Have LCD prices droped?

Halt before you go any futher. LCD are still to expensive to be made into a imac. I'm sorry apple has alot in to design but I don't think it for this.
 
iBook only costs $1700

If a top-of-the-line iBook only costs $1700, Apple could surely price an LCD iMac or whatever Apple chooses to call it comparabily to that.

Think about it.

If Apple spends the money that it would save by not having to use miniature components like those in the iBook and invest it in bigger 15" LCD moniters, there's your LCD iMac for $1700!

An LCD iMac will not cost as much as everyone thinks! Besides even if the model topped out at $2000, I bet Apple would have people standing in line.

People spend thousands on PowerMacs rigth now and they don't even include a moniter. Yes I know that people spend that becuase it has the G4, but there are people that buy PowerMacs becuase they think that the iMac's screen is too small and I bet those users would pay for the LCD.
 
I'm sorry

U are wrong. If apple just put a Lcd screen into the imac for that little $$$, people would buy the imac for the screen and scrap the rest of it. We would all Love the macheine, but the cost... You said $1700, it would be higher cause of the new design. The education system wouldn't buy them cause of cost and maybe security problems.
 
Why would it cost more becuase of a new design?

I think Apple learned their lesson with the Cube and won't overprice anything that much again. We all know Apple has one of the highest profit margins in the industry, perhaps it's time to cut back.

Also, Gateway sells an all-in-one LCD all day long for $1800 surely the LCD iMac could be priced competitively.
 
LCD iMac likely? 50/50 toss up..

Can someone tell me the difference between an LCD iMac and an iBook? Realisticly, now.. if you want an LCD iMac, buy the cheapest iBook, with an Apple Pro keyboard and an Apple Pro optical mouse, and there you go!!!!

The iMac hasn't got anything over the iBook in any sense except better speakers. I think to slim it down that much makes it very close to portable.. and with the added cost of an LCD versus saving a couple hundred bucks for a desktop brick.. why not just buy the portable? I think it will cause them problems with product differentiation..

The current low end LCD is $599... probably that's a low-profit item for Apple as well considering that they would rather dump their low end screen for near cost and have people be able to afford buying their low end Power Mac, than to force them to buy an iMac. iMac was the savior of Apple, but it's not necessarily the future of Apple. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to scrap the iMac within a couple of years for a lower cost, more expandable G3 or G4 short tower with the next drop in LCD prices.

Really, my feeling is that laptops are so good now, and the screens are of such high quality now (at least on the Apple ones), it is dramaticly decreasing the need for a clunky desktop.. I mean, the iMac isn't expandable anyways, and its too damn bulky and heavy to be considered truly portable.. more like a luggable. lol.. I predict moving it towards LCD *might* be a step towards its extinction as people wake up and realize laptops are excellent replacements for desktop for many low to medium end users in the modern computer era. Power users wouldn't buy an iMac anyways.. so, how do you differentiate the product line?
 
alrighty...

i have a Rev A iMac. and i'd love an LCD display...but...there is some things that laptops still can't do, and that's be a server, and be upgraded easily. now i know that the Rev E-new aren't very expandable, but i now have a G4 iMac with a VooDoo 2x in it and 80 Gigs of HD and 512 MB RAM. let me tell you, it cooks.
so what does this have to do with anything? just this....

(RevA Expandability) + LCD + (all new and nifty stuff) = one kick butt little computer

besides, as it is CRT's are getting to be 2" thick with some new IBM (i think) equipment....

as a side note, remember that IBM now gets 1 GB into the size of a quarter....
 
Laptop still rocks better...

Laptops are a lot more expandable than they're being given credit for...for example, a TiBook can be taken up to a gig of RAM for $390 (or, if you just want 512 MB, that can be done for about $100) and IBM Travelstar HD's can replace whatever is built-in on your laptop ($145 for a 20 GB internal, and less if you can find a buyer for your built-in drive).

If you want your laptop to be a "server," then simply leave it on your desk....planning to lug your computer around isn't a prerequisite to buying a laptop.

About the only place you get shorted on with laptops is video and graphics. Most people don't use their PCI slots anyway -- and iMac users don't *get* PCI slots to begin with....so what's wrong with buying an iBook? If your grievance is the 12.1" screen, then go ahead and buy an external (third party) LCD...you could get the laptop and the LCD all for the $1700 price point mentioned earlier -- and you'd be able to take your computer on the go if and when you so choose...go figure.

 
Ah ha...

Right I think not apple would of released the imac's during MWNY cause it has more people. And when did the imac's first come out? Apple would of had a special thing going if they did a LCD imac. Still apple has spent alot on the designing of a new........
 
Re: Ah ha...

Originally posted by MrMacman
Right I think not apple would of released the imac's during MWNY cause it has more people.
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When were the iBooks released?!?! Weren't they released before MWNY?!?!
 
Very likely, but not with 10-boot default

what happened to Paris?

I don't think it would be wise to put OS X on the Imac.
It's very powerful but WAY too geeky for joe-user. All the average guy cares about is: Does it work (all senses) and : Can I use it Drunk, Stoned and Stupid?

I think Steve's push for One OS may turn into a permanent Classic veneer on the Imac/Ibook to avoid frustrating or alienating those who HATE having to hunt around to tweak stuff.
 
no one is going to buy an iBook to use as a permanent desktop computer or server because the motherboard throughput just isn't fast enough. Don't forget that the bus speed is 66mhz v. 100mhz on the new iMacs, and probably 133 or 166 on the LCD ones. (whenever they may come) There is a definet advantage to buying a desktop computer over a laptop. The cost/technology ratio will ALWAYS be much better.

-Pete
 
Defending laptops (again)

As for the bus speed, sure it's a speed issue but it isn't THE most important issue in the world. The truth of the matter (gasp) is that contrary to what we may think, 90% of us don't really need the newest and the fastest machine on the market. What a few weeks ago was top of the line at $3500 now ranks in as an entry-level model at about $1700 retail...bus speed is just one part of the speed equation, and if you are really feel the "need for speed" then you're going to go buy a top-of-the-line desktop anyway. But given the choice between a portable and a low-end desktop that is just some percentage points faster than that portable, I'll take the former...
 
Re: PowerBook Crappy Resolutions

Originally posted by envirium
Hi Everybody..
Im currently a windows user with a IBM A22p Laptop and very interested in getting a powerbook. I was wondering if apple is trying to make there powerbook tailored to the professional market, do anyone think they are going to upgrade the resolution of the powerbook in the "onyx" version?... The Powerbook is running at a resolution of 1128x768 which is really really crappy for running any professional level software like dreamweaver and photoshop which I use everyday. That is why I chose the ThinkPad. I really want a powerbook but the resolution is horrible. Any Ideas?. Both laptops has a 15 inch LCD.
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IBM A22p 15 it´s a nice laptop and of all wintel laptopmakers my favorite vendor. But if you use the machine for webpublishing it´s usually easier to work in resolutions below 1600 x 1200. At my work where 18 programmers do webpublishing i don´t know anyone that work with that resulution when making webpages!
- but if you absolutely want to have that kind of resulotion when you work, you simply add an good 19" monitor to it.

/be well citicen
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Here's a thought I think people have overlooked: lcd screens aside, why do laptops cost more than desktops? Because they have more expensive components! It costs more money to produce mobile processors, ram, hd's, and mobos. If Apple can make an iBook for $1300, they could certainly match or possibly beat that price in an lcd iMac, because the components would cost less. Also, don't forget that schools get discounts when buying these things, so you can't take the full retail price into account.
 
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You

Originally posted by ThlayliTheFierce
Here's a thought I think people have overlooked: lcd screens aside, why do laptops cost more than desktops? Because they have more expensive components! It costs more money to produce mobile processors, ram, hd's, and mobos. If Apple can make an iBook for $1300, they could certainly match or possibly beat that price in an lcd iMac, because the components would cost less. Also, don't forget that schools get discounts when buying these things, so you can't take the full retail price into account.
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Finally! Someone who gets the math. I mentioned this in a previous post and no one seemed to catch on!
 
Favorers Destops over laptops.

The cost part is true and does the ibook have the capibality to hook up to a Lcd. (maybe it's the Radition going to my head or that it's not late and I haven't slept in 2 day since I sent the e-mail to macrumors about something. And if you look at this Check ur e-mail.) The price of the extra or bigger Hard drive the Dvd or Cd-Rw, the extra ports that you need. The imac is a better choice than a ibook.
 
Re: Favorers Destops over laptops.

Originally posted by MrMacman
The cost part is true and does the ibook have the capibality to hook up to a Lcd. (maybe it's the Radition going to my head or that it's not late and I haven't slept in 2 day since I sent the e-mail to macrumors about something. And if you look at this Check ur e-mail.) The price of the extra or bigger Hard drive the Dvd or Cd-Rw, the extra ports that you need. The imac is a better choice than a ibook.
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Yeah you can hook an LCD up to an iBook. The iMac only has one more port than the iBook -- a FireWire port (that you don't need anyway). And the HD size differences can be remedied by simply swapping your internal iBook HD with an inexpensive third party drive. Once again, all of the benefits of that desktop -- plus the portability as a minimum of cost (if you shop around).
 
I dissagree

The imac is a All around Computer the ibook is for portability. The ibook's Keyboard is small, and there are many other problems too.
To get off this subject and switch to the origanal
Has anybody heard new news on the Lcd imac's ?
 
I was just reading this, and the guy that keeps saying to use the laptop....

Ok, I would like to know where this LCD screen is that can be hooked to the iBook. Ok, the lcd iMac would be very cheap because of it non-restrictions of a portable. Portables are more expensive because...A-They have smaller technology in them, so you need peeps to develope the current tech into smaller sizes.B- they have to use less power because hey if its truely portable then u need a portable power source to it (and I don't think they make portable fusion generators). Another is (like the cube) the need for a processor that doessn't give off as much heat, this is because of having certain other components (like the battery acid, that is combutable at high temps) and I don't think peepswant to handle a comp that would elevate their pantleg to flood-relief wet. An Lcd iMac would cost less because it doesn't have to worry about these things. Portable puts a bundle onto a comp by all the things it has to do, by having to by something other or directly by the portability. One that I will directly point at John123 is that YES, once again YES, people do use Firewire. The point is cameras all work on this,its great to use for transmission to other comps, its like a higher speed/higher bandwidth USB (we all know what you can have in USB) and also the removable HD buisness, the transfer rate for Firewire is great compared to USB. the lcd iMacs will more than likely be soon (around january's show), and there is a good reason. Simpley OSX would be greatly introduced with the one mac that was a very top seller. and the plastic injsection should allow for some very good things(hint- dalmation and flower power, just not those designs)
 
Re: I dissagree

Originally posted by MrMacman
Has anybody heard new news on the Lcd imac's?
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Yes! I read that Hitachi, Apple's providor of short neck CRTs, will suspend production of CRTs indefinetly in December. Instead, they will switch to producing LCDs. Here's the Article from MacOSRumors.com:

"In the wake of a confusing Macworld last month, many questions remain about the most-hoped-for product of the show - a new iMac that breaks the mold of its predecessors and offers up the kind of dramatic advance that the original iMac and later the Cube both brought about. We don't have any major new information for you yet, but we do have some interesting tidbits from readers:

The Register has brought to light the fact that Hitachi (Apple's supplier of short neck CRT displays for iMac's) announced they will cease to make CRT displays by the end of 2001. According to the article Hitachi doesn't even plan to out-source production anymore - instead focusing on LCD production.

Perhaps - like it or not - CRT based iMac's will go extinct by the end of year (if Apple's doesn't license another company to make short neck CRT displays which would more than likely require a minor case redesign to accommodate them). It would seem - even if Apple has made special arrangements for continued production of it's iMac displays - that the current iMac design will have outlasted it's technology.

From what we're hearing, Hitachi's decision does indeed play into Apple's move toward a new-form-factor iMac with a flat panel display. Apple has virtually all of the short-neck iMac 15-inch CRTs (the only CRT it continues to utilize!) it will need for the remainder of the lifetime of the current iMac family already in its warehouses, and should be able to get more than enough before Hitachi shuts down production completely. Once that supply runs out, the new-form iMac should hit the streets - pointing to sometime near the end of the year. Late September has widely been discussed as a possible timeframe for the new iMac, but we're skeptical of that - November (as-yet unannounced Apple Event) or January (Macworld San Francisco) seem the likeliest announcement venues at present."
 
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