LCD iMac in Paris?

[john123]

Re: I was just reading this, and the guy that keeps saying to use the laptop....

Originally posted by DarkNovaMatter
Ok, I would like to know where this LCD screen is that can be hooked to the iBook.....One that I will directly point at John123 is that YES, once again YES, people do use Firewire. The point is cameras all work on this,its great to use for transmission to other comps, its like a higher speed/higher bandwidth USB (we all know what you can have in USB) and also the removable HD buisness, the transfer rate for Firewire is great compared to USB.

You can hook any LCD screen up to an iBook. The new iBook models introduced this year finally support external monitors, so you can hook a monitor -- 17" or 21" or whatever, LCD or CRT or whatever -- to the iBook, just as you could with the PowerBook G4 or Pismo.

As for the FireWire....I wasn't saying that people don't use it!!! I was saying that the iBook comes with just one FireWire port whereas the iMac comes with two...however, you really only need the one FireWire port. For most devices, you can just daisy chain them, just as you used to do with SCSI devices, only with higher bandwidth with FireWire. People who really do need two FireWire ports usually need them for reasons for *power*, in which case it's smart to buy a powered hub anyway.

As for the *keyboard*....isn't that nit-picking just a little bit??!?! Anyway, if you find the keyboard objectionable, hook up your own. All I'm saying is that you can turn your little iBook into a full-fledged desktop machine if you want to, and if you weren't looking at the tiny case, you'd never know the difference. That is precisely what I did with my Pismo when I bought it -- it was a desktop machine when I was at my desk, but when I needed to be on the go, it could accomodate those needs, too. There was once a time when people really couldn't do all their work on a laptop. Those days have passed.

[Edited by john123 on 08-03-2001 at 06:02 PM]

 

[MrMacMan]

Well all news is pointing toward Lcd imac's

If only we hade a pict. Oh wait I'm Steve, Silly me. I'll be back with the pict in a Sec.

 

[DarkNovaMatter]

sk, tsk, tsk........

ok, is there some usb or other type of connection to a screen that i don't know about? I know it can't be apple, thats an obvios. So how are u going to connect this? VGA, hmmmm i would like to find one of those. Also and LCD imac would cost lower. Soon when apple revises them will more than likely be introduced with the imacs, thus the iBooks will be back up in price. Most peeps are really wanting a bigger keyboard. And most peeps that use Firewire do use more than one port. Hinting transferable Firewire drives ans also their cameras. The general of more bang for your buck does apply. people who will be mostly looking into the iMac/iBook are first buyers. What do first buyers look for? lower price, and most don't need a portable. Most look for the lower price and more power, and that will soon be the lcd imacs.

 

[john123]

Think before you tsk

Originally posted by DarkNovaMatter
ok, is there some usb or other type of connection to a screen that i don't know about? I know it can't be apple, thats an obvios. So how are u going to connect this? VGA, hmmmm i would like to find one of those. Also and LCD imac would cost lower. Soon when apple revises them will more than likely be introduced with the imacs, thus the iBooks will be back up in price. Most peeps are really wanting a bigger keyboard. And most peeps that use Firewire do use more than one port. Hinting transferable Firewire drives ans also their cameras. The general of more bang for your buck does apply. people who will be mostly looking into the iMac/iBook are first buyers. What do first buyers look for? lower price, and most don't need a portable. Most look for the lower price and more power, and that will soon be the lcd imacs.

As for the VGA: it is *built into* the new iBooks. A brand new port on the 2001 models. Read about it at http://www.apple.com/ibook. As if that weren't enough, the iBook *also* sports an AV port so you can also put your screen on your TV. Good stuff, all standard on all the iBook models.

As for the keyboard: if you really long for a bigger keyboard, simply buy one and put it on your desk. You aren't going to ever get a bigger keyboard on your laptop anyway for obvious reasons.

As for Firewire ports: a few arguments. 1) Even the TiBook has just one port. 2) FireWire devices, by and large, are daisychainable. If you buy a burner, it's got 2 ports on it. If you buy a harddrive, it's got 2 ports on it. If your camera doesn't, then it can go at the end of the chain (and it doesn't require termination like SCSI did). And if you *are* chaining 3 or more devices together, you need to buy a powered hub anyway, even with FireWire.

As for bang for buck: for now, that LCD iMac is simply rumor, obviously. If you shop around, you can get a new iBook for $1200. An iMac, entry level, will run you $1000. A couple hundred bucks gets you portability, with the only practical loss between the two being the loss of the CD-RW drive (which can, of course, be purchased externally for sub-$200). That's pretty attractive to a lot of consumers -- maybe not as a "family computer," but for someone really interested in a personal computer for their own use, it's hard to beat.

 

[MrMacMan]

Laptops for portibality Desktops for the Stuff the Laptops don't have

I gotta disagree, man You use a laptop for the ability to move with it. The Desktops are great for what people use them for.

 

[john123]

Re: Laptops for portibality Desktops for the Stuff the Laptops don't have

Originally posted by MrMacman
I gotta disagree, man You use a laptop for the ability to move with it. The Desktops are great for what people use them for.

OK, this is getting more than a little old, so I'll leave it at this:
Just because you *CAN* use a laptop for portability doesn't mean you *HAVE* to. Novel concept, I realize. The point is that if your iBook has everything your iMac does or can be *configured* to have everything your iMac does, for a modicum of additional cost, the laptop makes more sense all the way around...you always have the potential benefit of portability at your disposal.

It's really simple, guys...maybe what I am just detecting is some regret at having shelled out $1000 for an iMac when just a tad more might have bought you an iBook. ;-)

 

[MattB]

SOME PEOPLE JUST PREFER DESKTOPS

Yes, an iBook might make more sense than an iMac becuase of it's portability and it's ability to be configured the same as an iMac, but some people just prefer desktops.

Some users prefer to use a full size keyboard with a full size 10-key and others prefer using a mouse to a trackpad. Yes, you are correct all of these can be connected to an iBook, but there's just something about placing a laptop on a desk and having to connect peripherals to it in order to make it seem like a desktop, but a desktop it will never be.

If I had to use a laptop as my primary computer, I'd go insane. Have you ever tried to type a term paper on a undersized laptop keyboard; or had to edit a spreadsheet using a trackpad? It's murder!

Some people just prefer desktops, plain and simple.

 

[MrMacMan]

Re: SOME PEOPLE JUST PREFER DESKTOPS TRUE!!!

Originally posted by MattB
Yes, an iBook might make more sense than an iMac becuase of it's portability and it's ability to be configured the same as an iMac, but some people just prefer desktops.

Some users prefer to use a full size keyboard with a full size 10-key and others prefer using a mouse to a trackpad. Yes, you are correct all of these can be connected to an iBook, but there's just something about placing a laptop on a desk and having to connect peripherals to it in order to make it seem like a desktop, but a desktop it will never be.

If I had to use a laptop as my primary computer, I'd go insane. Have you ever tried to type a term paper on a undersized laptop keyboard; or had to edit a spreadsheet using a trackpad? It's murder!

Some people just prefer desktops, plain and simple.

I like my USB and all the Stuff at my desk the Power right here in my room. Now Imagine this me Dragin my
Macally USB Port
My new Macally Optical mouse
My Espon color 740i printer
A normal Keyboard
My Crappy Scanner
MY Digatal Camera,
and the flash card USB port thingy
And my normal Stuff that I have on my desk
You give me a Normal Suit Case that fits my Stuff in it.

 

[john123]

Re: Re: SOME PEOPLE JUST PREFER DESKTOPS TRUE!!!

Originally posted by MrMacman

I like my USB and all the Stuff at my desk the Power right here in my room. Now Imagine this me Dragin my
Macally USB Port
My new Macally Optical mouse
My Espon color 740i printer
A normal Keyboard
My Crappy Scanner
MY Digatal Camera,
and the flash card USB port thingy
And my normal Stuff that I have on my desk
You give me a Normal Suit Case that fits my Stuff in it.

That isn't really the point...you can very easily take your mouse and camera with you on your weekend trips, and then come back and put it all together. It's extra flexibility, pure and simple. Again, just because you have a laptop doesn't mean that somehow you *have* to always use it on-the-go....

 

[MrMacMan]

Where do you put the Printer?

On a Desk perhaps? I like my mouse and my keyboard and everything attached to it. Like that my mouse lights up (u know the hockey puck mouse trick? I did that to my opical mouse!) I wouldn't scariface my hardware for portability!