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The thing is, these specs, although quite intriguing, aren't all that different from previous reports. I mean, anyone could have come up with these as well - these stats aren't all that different.
So all these news services, people say, are now reporting this... but it's not like the rumor mill hasn't been running starting late Thursday night. I mean, Google could have posted very similar numbers that sources conjured up the night before.
In effect, this leak says little. The Keynote, obviously, will have the final word. 😛
My question is, as these new computers will most likely be expensive:
Will a new G5 line replace the current G4 line, or will it be added onto the end (perhaps pushing out the bottom feeders)?
The Dual 1.25s and 1.42s could be retained, and simply bumped down a slot. However, if a single processor 970 is released (and most likely) this would make little sense as it might confuse consumers to G4/970 Single/Dual comparisons.
Hnmm.
I'm beginning to think this won't have a huge effect on the industry. But we'll have to see. Perhaps a 15" 970 will be enough to turn some heads.
The biggest thing will come at the Super Bowl next January. I believe Apple will release the next consumer machine, and it seems like unless you're Sun or IBM and are built for business, the money, attention, and stock performance all hover around consumer (family) products - iPod included.
The thing is, these specs, although quite intriguing, aren't all that different from previous reports. I mean, anyone could have come up with these as well - these stats aren't all that different.
So all these news services, people say, are now reporting this... but it's not like the rumor mill hasn't been running starting late Thursday night. I mean, Google could have posted very similar numbers that sources conjured up the night before.
In effect, this leak says little. The Keynote, obviously, will have the final word. 😛
My question is, as these new computers will most likely be expensive:
Will a new G5 line replace the current G4 line, or will it be added onto the end (perhaps pushing out the bottom feeders)?
The Dual 1.25s and 1.42s could be retained, and simply bumped down a slot. However, if a single processor 970 is released (and most likely) this would make little sense as it might confuse consumers to G4/970 Single/Dual comparisons.
Hnmm.
I'm beginning to think this won't have a huge effect on the industry. But we'll have to see. Perhaps a 15" 970 will be enough to turn some heads.
The biggest thing will come at the Super Bowl next January. I believe Apple will release the next consumer machine, and it seems like unless you're Sun or IBM and are built for business, the money, attention, and stock performance all hover around consumer (family) products - iPod included.
Ports
People are wondering about the 3 USB ports, well there are also 3 firewire ports, and 3 PCI slots, not so uncommon a number for this computer😎
P.S.😉 Maybe the old G4 will become the new low-end box now that we will have the 970???!?!?!?!?
Food for thought🙄
People are wondering about the 3 USB ports, well there are also 3 firewire ports, and 3 PCI slots, not so uncommon a number for this computer😎
P.S.😉 Maybe the old G4 will become the new low-end box now that we will have the 970???!?!?!?!?
Food for thought🙄
screensavers reported apples mistake
tthe techtv show the screensavers reported apples mistake. so i guess it was a mistake and not a hack. i wonder if these new machines will be out. i don't want to drive 3 hours to the apple store in columbus, oh if they won't have the G5's.
tthe techtv show the screensavers reported apples mistake. so i guess it was a mistake and not a hack. i wonder if these new machines will be out. i don't want to drive 3 hours to the apple store in columbus, oh if they won't have the G5's.
i don't think calling will work before 1:00pm on monday
i don't think any of the stores will tell anything till after the jobs state of the nation speech. i want to go to see the speech and buy a system. so i don't think calling ahead will help.
i don't think any of the stores will tell anything till after the jobs state of the nation speech. i want to go to see the speech and buy a system. so i don't think calling ahead will help.
maclamb
macrumors 6502
Intentional mistake
I vote forthis being an intention "mistake" by Steve to
1. promote dicussion and interest prior to one of the biggest announcements ever ( i mean, outside of developers and such, who cares about a developer conference)
2. Gauge reactions
3. Inflame purchasing desire - about like "leaking": the time rolling stones tickets go on sale.
if I were steve I would have done it.
I vote forthis being an intention "mistake" by Steve to
1. promote dicussion and interest prior to one of the biggest announcements ever ( i mean, outside of developers and such, who cares about a developer conference)
2. Gauge reactions
3. Inflame purchasing desire - about like "leaking": the time rolling stones tickets go on sale.
if I were steve I would have done it.
A definite mistake
There are two main reasons that I feel that the G5 spec graphic was a simple mistake.
1. I was on the apple store about 30 minutes or so before the G5 specs went live. Someone at Apple was definitely uploading new images to the store and screwed up. Why do I think this, well, the image buttons for update, continue shopping etc were sized incorrectly. The width and height attributes in the HTML did not match the actual images and were therefore distorted. I continued to refresh the page and who ever was doing the updates realized they f@cked up and were desparately trying to fix the problem but it took them 2-3 attempts to get the new images and html attributes to match.
2. If you had the skills to hack a highly secure site like Apple, would you bother ? Why not just hack the bank of America and transfer $100mil to your offshore account. The second scenario sounds impossible doesn't it !!! And it would be any easier to change a gif on the Apple site than it would be to hack the bank. I've worked on major sites with similar security measures in place to Apple and believe me when I tell you that the chances of them being hacked are ZERO, unless you're on the INSIDE!
Would you risk losing a web development job at Apple just to post the specs 3 days early, NO WAY.
And to those people blabbering on about the font size and the colour being wrong and the bullet points and whatever else, get a life. Whose to say that the entire site isn't going to be completed updated, its been a while since the site had a redesign.
There are two main reasons that I feel that the G5 spec graphic was a simple mistake.
1. I was on the apple store about 30 minutes or so before the G5 specs went live. Someone at Apple was definitely uploading new images to the store and screwed up. Why do I think this, well, the image buttons for update, continue shopping etc were sized incorrectly. The width and height attributes in the HTML did not match the actual images and were therefore distorted. I continued to refresh the page and who ever was doing the updates realized they f@cked up and were desparately trying to fix the problem but it took them 2-3 attempts to get the new images and html attributes to match.
2. If you had the skills to hack a highly secure site like Apple, would you bother ? Why not just hack the bank of America and transfer $100mil to your offshore account. The second scenario sounds impossible doesn't it !!! And it would be any easier to change a gif on the Apple site than it would be to hack the bank. I've worked on major sites with similar security measures in place to Apple and believe me when I tell you that the chances of them being hacked are ZERO, unless you're on the INSIDE!
Would you risk losing a web development job at Apple just to post the specs 3 days early, NO WAY.
And to those people blabbering on about the font size and the colour being wrong and the bullet points and whatever else, get a life. Whose to say that the entire site isn't going to be completed updated, its been a while since the site had a redesign.
yes, optical in and out is an awesome feature. Just like my playstation 2 there is an optical out port that i can hook to my surround sound and its amazing. This is definately a cool feature for gamers.
crees!
Suspended
More than meets the eye
Ofcourse all this info to the public has started a frenzy... but look at this quote that I just came across.
"Significantly faster" ... So we have supposed dual 2.0Ghz machines in 3 days. (Presuming this quote is from IBM) Apple will REALLY be back in the game with PeeCee chips. Most likely surpass them and open the rest of the worlds eyes at the same time showing that PeeCees aren't your only choice.
Ofcourse all this info to the public has started a frenzy... but look at this quote that I just came across.
"Significantly faster" ... So we have supposed dual 2.0Ghz machines in 3 days. (Presuming this quote is from IBM) Apple will REALLY be back in the game with PeeCee chips. Most likely surpass them and open the rest of the worlds eyes at the same time showing that PeeCees aren't your only choice.
HOLY SH*T!!!!!!!!
ANY ONE WHO DOUBTS THE REALITY OF THEESE SPECS I HAVE A LINK TO A SCREEN SHOT OF THE APPLE STORE WEBPAGE LOOK UNDER STEP 1 CHOOSE...
http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/g5fullpage.html
THIS IS AWESOME THANK YOU GOD
ANY ONE WHO DOUBTS THE REALITY OF THEESE SPECS I HAVE A LINK TO A SCREEN SHOT OF THE APPLE STORE WEBPAGE LOOK UNDER STEP 1 CHOOSE...
http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/g5fullpage.html
THIS IS AWESOME THANK YOU GOD
I wonder if Steve will mention anything about the leak in his keynote.
I liked the part that said "the world's fastest personal computer".
Now all I need is the dollars.
Anyone wanna buy a G3 smurf for $3000.
Comes bundled with the legendary hockey puck mouse.
I liked the part that said "the world's fastest personal computer".
Now all I need is the dollars.
Anyone wanna buy a G3 smurf for $3000.
Comes bundled with the legendary hockey puck mouse.
voicegy
macrumors 65816
Info still out there
As stated above, thinksecret.com still has the specs...apparently no letter from Apple asking them to pull them. MacInTouch.com still has them as well, as of this writing.
Why are they still out on some heavily trafficed mac related sites, and not on MacRumors? I ponder...
As stated above, thinksecret.com still has the specs...apparently no letter from Apple asking them to pull them. MacInTouch.com still has them as well, as of this writing.
Why are they still out on some heavily trafficed mac related sites, and not on MacRumors? I ponder...
since they released it on the internet, they can't legally ask anyone to pull it. They could say "pretty please" but they could not legally do much.
Freg3000
macrumors 68000
Re: Info still out there
I don't understand how Apple can do anything about these pictures. Apple mistakenly uploaded them onto their PUBLIC store, and somebody took a picture of it. How can Apple force you to take down a picture that they provided you, inadvertently or not?
Evolu: I'm a few seconds too late 🙂
I don't understand how Apple can do anything about these pictures. Apple mistakenly uploaded them onto their PUBLIC store, and somebody took a picture of it. How can Apple force you to take down a picture that they provided you, inadvertently or not?
Evolu: I'm a few seconds too late 🙂
voicegy
macrumors 65816
A much bigger gaffe happened back when Time Magazine Canada released via their web site the cover shot of Steve with his redesigned iMac (the lump-stick-rectangle we've all come to know and love) the night before a January keynote in San Francisco. Steve didn't mention a word...probably because most of the audience was not up at midnight scanning the web looking for clues. So he probably won't say a thing come Monday either. Of course, the previous gaffe wasn't an Apple Official Site "mistake"...the fact that the "G5" specs appeared on their own site makes this whole thing quite credible, in my opinion.
What if...
Here's a thought -- What if:
* It's not a hack.
* It's not a mistake -- it was put there purposefully.
* But yet, it's not the real specs, either -- they're actually lowballed.
That way, Steve gets to come out on Monday, with everyone expecting, oh, say, 1.6, 1.8, and dual 2.0, and instead, he announces (pulling numbers out of the air here) 1.8, dual 2.0 and dual 2.5 (or quad 2.0!). And a bunch of speedy G5 PowerBooks! Boom! The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifices, dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
This fanciful scenario gets to be consistent with:
1. The latest word from MacWhispers' sources (that the 970 we see would be "perhaps, much, much faster" than 1.4 and 1.6...)
2. Our understanding of how Apple and its Web site operate -- and Steve, for that matter.
3. The market -- Apple gives up one weekday of PowerMac sales (that they would probably have to cancel come Monday, anyway...), and gets a double media bounce -- today's furor over the leak, and then Monday's big improvement on it.
I have no inside information; I've just been pondering this today. Any thoughts?
Here's a thought -- What if:
* It's not a hack.
* It's not a mistake -- it was put there purposefully.
* But yet, it's not the real specs, either -- they're actually lowballed.
That way, Steve gets to come out on Monday, with everyone expecting, oh, say, 1.6, 1.8, and dual 2.0, and instead, he announces (pulling numbers out of the air here) 1.8, dual 2.0 and dual 2.5 (or quad 2.0!). And a bunch of speedy G5 PowerBooks! Boom! The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifices, dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
This fanciful scenario gets to be consistent with:
1. The latest word from MacWhispers' sources (that the 970 we see would be "perhaps, much, much faster" than 1.4 and 1.6...)
2. Our understanding of how Apple and its Web site operate -- and Steve, for that matter.
3. The market -- Apple gives up one weekday of PowerMac sales (that they would probably have to cancel come Monday, anyway...), and gets a double media bounce -- today's furor over the leak, and then Monday's big improvement on it.
I have no inside information; I've just been pondering this today. Any thoughts?
i'm just thinking about how fast osx is on these fricking moto processors - I don't think I can wrap my head around how fast these machines are going to be...
probably the wrong thread for this - couldn't help it!
probably the wrong thread for this - couldn't help it!
Apple cannot protect the specs as a trade secret, as trade secrets require secrecy to be protected. Their release of the info makes it fair game to be published. I wouldn't take them on in court on this, though.
There is no way this is a hack, unless the g5s are coming, and are BETTER than what was posted. If they were hacked, they would have to let everyone know or else the entire mac community would be furious and booing during the keynote. This would really hurt them and it would be better to admit it now than on Monday. It's not like we wouldn't figure it out after Steve's speech. And not heading off the rumors now could expose them to liability in the form of a shareholder lawsuit, provided the stock tanks after wwdc.
If they were hacked and wanted to appear secure, they'd just lie and say an employee did it anyway.
There is no way this is a hack, unless the g5s are coming, and are BETTER than what was posted. If they were hacked, they would have to let everyone know or else the entire mac community would be furious and booing during the keynote. This would really hurt them and it would be better to admit it now than on Monday. It's not like we wouldn't figure it out after Steve's speech. And not heading off the rumors now could expose them to liability in the form of a shareholder lawsuit, provided the stock tanks after wwdc.
If they were hacked and wanted to appear secure, they'd just lie and say an employee did it anyway.
Re: What if...
bbanzai, if you are right, that would be something. Even more impressive is if Apple overclocked the G5 to make it go to 4 Ghz. The PC world would go nuts!
bbanzai, if you are right, that would be something. Even more impressive is if Apple overclocked the G5 to make it go to 4 Ghz. The PC world would go nuts!
zimv20
macrumors 601
plus, the optical in would allow audio folks to bypass the firewire port. many studios (home & pro) have outboard analog->digital converters that must be passed along a firewire path to get it into the mac.
though there's no great issue w/ using firewire, it might save someone from having to buy a piece of gear.
Re: Re: What if...
There is *no* way the 970 can even go 2.5ghz until it gets down to .09
What people seem to be missing/avoiding(?) is that at 2ghz these 970 are going to suck TONS of power and require a lot of cooling. Expect these machines to be louder than modern AMD boxen.
There is *no* way the 970 can even go 2.5ghz until it gets down to .09
What people seem to be missing/avoiding(?) is that at 2ghz these 970 are going to suck TONS of power and require a lot of cooling. Expect these machines to be louder than modern AMD boxen.
If you want to use multiple macs as audio workstations running software synths and samplers and feeding the audio back to a central mac which is running, say, cubase SX, then you need optical in/out. Firewire doesn't work. This is a pretty big deal in the audio world, especially since Apple now own Logic and it's been having a tough time competing with Cubase.