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How very very strange.
We'll have a better idea on Monday, but my money says someone managed to replace the original graphic on apple's servers with this 'hacked' version.
Imagine you had a pretty good idea what the specs for the next PowerMac were and you wanted to leak these details and it just so happened that you had the technical wherewithall to do this sort of hack. Well this would be a pretty good way of getting people to believe you, ie making it look like a slip up on apple's part. And of course if your info was accurate, apple couldn't deny it today, only to confirm it on Monday.
I don't know if this is what happened, but if it is, then it was actually quite a clever way of goling about it.
I still find the wonky font size and picture size very confusing.
We'll have a better idea on Monday, but my money says someone managed to replace the original graphic on apple's servers with this 'hacked' version.
Imagine you had a pretty good idea what the specs for the next PowerMac were and you wanted to leak these details and it just so happened that you had the technical wherewithall to do this sort of hack. Well this would be a pretty good way of getting people to believe you, ie making it look like a slip up on apple's part. And of course if your info was accurate, apple couldn't deny it today, only to confirm it on Monday.
I don't know if this is what happened, but if it is, then it was actually quite a clever way of goling about it.
I still find the wonky font size and picture size very confusing.
Essentially all current internal hard drives are ATA drives. ATA uses a wide ribbon cable carrying (I think) 40 different little wires. It's a parallel connection - each of 16 bits move on separate wires.
SerialATA is a serial connection, meaning one bit travels after another along the same wires. SerialATA has a 7-pin connector.
One immediate benefit is since the cable (and connector) is thinner, you won't need to worry about the old wide cables blocking air flow inside the case.
Another benefit is a longer cable limit (about three feet I think). This allows the same cable and drive to run inside or outside the case. (I'm pretty sure it's the same connector for in/out but am not 100% positive. I do know there are external SerialATA drive enclosures and so-forth.)
SerialATA drives promise to be faster, although just because of SerialATA they won't necessarily be so. There's a higher potential speed, but I don't know if any drives even reach the max throughput of the current ATA/100/133 signals.
While there are hundreds of ATA/100/133 drives out there, I could only find about 10 total SerialATA drives. The theory is they'll be easy to make since by nature they're still ATA (as opposed to SCSI which is completely different). So if the G5's do have SerialATA there won't be much of a choice of drives for a while but that could change quickly. For now, I suspect most folks will use regular drives and adapter boards.
just to let you know...
At www.ppcnerds.org we're receiving mails from people claiming to have seen the new powermac at stores/vendors. We just publish the less fake, from a guy confirming basically the leaked specs from apple and confirming part of a post seen around teling about the new powermac case/components.
the saddest thing is that, anyway it goes, we won't have money to upgrade to a new server 🙂
At www.ppcnerds.org we're receiving mails from people claiming to have seen the new powermac at stores/vendors. We just publish the less fake, from a guy confirming basically the leaked specs from apple and confirming part of a post seen around teling about the new powermac case/components.
the saddest thing is that, anyway it goes, we won't have money to upgrade to a new server 🙂
By the way, other than MacRumors I haven't seen any other sites that removed anything at Apple's request. I think it's lame Apple only asked here. At this point it's everywhere, well beyond rumor sites and even beyond Mac-centric sites.
In regard to Serial ATA, many of you are forgetting the most important benefit - hot swapability. Now you can plug/unplug hard drives (not the system drive) and optical drives without turning your machine off.
Sun Baked
macrumors G5
However, if it does turn out to be a disgruntled worker at one of Apple's consulting firms with upload access to the Akamai servers, there are going to be a lot of people and alphabet soup names after this person. 😱
And we thought the guy who let slip the pictures and drawings last time was in trouble.
Remember Worker Bee ... (The company alleges that the source gave information out via "improper means such as theft, bribery, misrepresentation, breach or inducement of a breach of a duty to maintain secrecy, and/or espionage.")
If this is a stunt with "knowingly false" information ... then it looks like Worker Bee may have some company.
And we thought the guy who let slip the pictures and drawings last time was in trouble.
Remember Worker Bee ... (The company alleges that the source gave information out via "improper means such as theft, bribery, misrepresentation, breach or inducement of a breach of a duty to maintain secrecy, and/or espionage.")
If this is a stunt with "knowingly false" information ... then it looks like Worker Bee may have some company.
Re: Re: i'm thinking hack
With 11 pages of posts and counting, five dollars is like two cents... inflation.
With 11 pages of posts and counting, five dollars is like two cents... inflation.
iLilana
macrumors 6502a
wirednews story
http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,59335,00.html
If Apple backs down now, they are so screwed. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was a hack and Apple didn't really care because the specs weren't beefed up enough?
Lil
http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,59335,00.html
If Apple backs down now, they are so screwed. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that was a hack and Apple didn't really care because the specs weren't beefed up enough?
Lil
Rocketman
macrumors 603
Re: PowerMac G5's Info!
2700 positive comments in a couple of hours? Macrumors rocks and has lurkers!
Mac Central reports (a news source) that the specs are:
"The specs posted to the company's Web site list the G5 as being available in three speeds: 1.6GHz, 1.8GHz and a dual 2GHz with up to a 1GHz processor bus; up to 8GB of DDR SDRAM; Fast Serial ATA hard drives; AGP 8X Pro graphics options from Nvidia or ATI; three PCI or PCI-X expansion slots; three USB 2.0 ports; one FireWire 800 and two FireWire 400 ports; and optical and analog audio in and out.
The machines will reportedly also be Bluetooth and AirPort Extreme ready when they ship to consumers."
All I can say is why didn't they make the same error with the PB G5 1.2 15" Al?
Rocketman
2700 positive comments in a couple of hours? Macrumors rocks and has lurkers!
Mac Central reports (a news source) that the specs are:
"The specs posted to the company's Web site list the G5 as being available in three speeds: 1.6GHz, 1.8GHz and a dual 2GHz with up to a 1GHz processor bus; up to 8GB of DDR SDRAM; Fast Serial ATA hard drives; AGP 8X Pro graphics options from Nvidia or ATI; three PCI or PCI-X expansion slots; three USB 2.0 ports; one FireWire 800 and two FireWire 400 ports; and optical and analog audio in and out.
The machines will reportedly also be Bluetooth and AirPort Extreme ready when they ship to consumers."
All I can say is why didn't they make the same error with the PB G5 1.2 15" Al?
Rocketman
matthew24
macrumors 6502
Hoax
http://www.macfreak.org/cgi/forums/readnews.cgi?action=newspage&newscount=29#1056117763
According to a dutch site (see link), it is done by a former worker at Akamai. So we are probably back at: 1.4 1.6 and 1.8!
http://www.macfreak.org/cgi/forums/readnews.cgi?action=newspage&newscount=29#1056117763
According to a dutch site (see link), it is done by a former worker at Akamai. So we are probably back at: 1.4 1.6 and 1.8!
zach
macrumors 65816
I really don't think this could be a hack. If it was, don't you think Apple would instantly announce that these specs were a hack, just in case we were disapointed by what they actually had?
Even if the specs were hacked, but actually real, Apple most likely would announce that it was a hack, just to stop all the speculation.
Instead, we are seeing ceast and desist orders, and complete silence from Apple.
Therefore, I see two possiblities.
1. The specs are real, and put up by accident.
2. The specs are fake, but actually less impressive than the real specs 😀
Even if the specs were hacked, but actually real, Apple most likely would announce that it was a hack, just to stop all the speculation.
Instead, we are seeing ceast and desist orders, and complete silence from Apple.
Therefore, I see two possiblities.
1. The specs are real, and put up by accident.
2. The specs are fake, but actually less impressive than the real specs 😀
Check this out....what if...there was like hole in the side of the machine just big enough for your iPod to slip into...right there is your hot-swapable hard drive. 😀 Sounds like a new rumor to me. But seriously, I havn't taken much look at the new iPods, but to be honest with you, that would be super sweet! And if you didn't have the new G5 towers everywhere you went, then you'd only have to count on firewire --AND (I'm goin' crazy here folks) part of the buzz with Panther... isn't there gonna be a more fluid user-ability incorporated into it? 😉
ATA
Yep and nope. ATA/66 and above actually have cables with 80 little wires. But, only 40 are used for data. The other 40 wires are used as insultation between the real wires to prevent induction current from corrupting the data.
Good post... Just throwing in an extra 2 cents.
Cheers!
Yep and nope. ATA/66 and above actually have cables with 80 little wires. But, only 40 are used for data. The other 40 wires are used as insultation between the real wires to prevent induction current from corrupting the data.
Good post... Just throwing in an extra 2 cents.
Cheers!
Wonder Boy
macrumors 6502a
CHAOS! Go to looprumors for the specs...
Why arn't people happier? It is possible this is a hoax, but damn, the majority of the posts have been negative. This is what we've been waiting for!
Why arn't people happier? It is possible this is a hoax, but damn, the majority of the posts have been negative. This is what we've been waiting for!
Maybe powerbooks are coming
I know that there has been a lot of debate about when powerbooks with the 970 chips are going to be released with some people saying this coming week but most saying later this year. I just noticed that apple has reduced the price on the 12 and 17 inch powerbooks...maybe this next week might be even bigger than we all thought. It would be absolutly amazing if they revamped the powerbook lines with 970;s as well. Just a thought (sorry if this has already been discussed, I don't have the time to read through all 200 posts in this thread.)
I know that there has been a lot of debate about when powerbooks with the 970 chips are going to be released with some people saying this coming week but most saying later this year. I just noticed that apple has reduced the price on the 12 and 17 inch powerbooks...maybe this next week might be even bigger than we all thought. It would be absolutly amazing if they revamped the powerbook lines with 970;s as well. Just a thought (sorry if this has already been discussed, I don't have the time to read through all 200 posts in this thread.)
Abstract
macrumors Penryn
Why a single proc, single proc, and dual setup? Doesn't it sound strange to anyone here that they would start at dual machines at the 2.0 GHz level? It says "1.6GHz, 1.8GHz, and dual 2.0GHz PowerPC processors", but maybe it was poorly written or something. Maybe they're all dual machines. 😕 Maybe the sky is falling.
PS: I don't think the site was hacked, but I definitely don't think this was a mistake. It was a calculated move to get people buzzing about WWDC. If they didn't, there would be much less fanfare. I saw the "leaked specs" story on the Reuters website, CNET, Google news, etc. This wouldn't have been true if the specs weren't leaked. Or maybe I should stop eating the paint peeling off the walls. 😉
With specs like these (and even the G4s now that I look at them), maybe I should consider switching from PCs to Macs 😉 .
Anyways: I think the main way to decide whether those specs are real or not is Apple's reaction. If they deny this ever happening, the specs have to be real. If they were fake, Apple would have to deny them, or suffer the massive disappointment of, well, everyone. There is always the possability of the real specs being even better than the posted ones... but I guess I'll just wait and see 😛 .
Anyways: I think the main way to decide whether those specs are real or not is Apple's reaction. If they deny this ever happening, the specs have to be real. If they were fake, Apple would have to deny them, or suffer the massive disappointment of, well, everyone. There is always the possability of the real specs being even better than the posted ones... but I guess I'll just wait and see 😛 .
You know, it was only a few weeks ago (or less) that people weren't even sure there were new computers coming to WWDC.
The fact that Apple seems to be releasing new computers, regardless of the exact specifications, is itself monumental.
Besides...
No one even knows quite what it looks like yet!
Where are all the loyal purists out there who want to be surprised?
...Or would this place be the last place they would come to?
The fact that Apple seems to be releasing new computers, regardless of the exact specifications, is itself monumental.
Besides...
No one even knows quite what it looks like yet!
Where are all the loyal purists out there who want to be surprised?
...Or would this place be the last place they would come to?
I tried G6, G7, and G8. I got a hit on G7, which was a link to http://www.g7info.com/site.html, but it turns out to be third party music notation software, not a leak about a future new processor!