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Originally posted by richie
Wow! 2GHz! They actually beat the rumour sites! Interesting about the up to 1GHz bus... I guess it means the FSB scales with the processor, as was suggested. Very cool. 😀 People are gonna be complaining about the lack of middle-duals, but screw 'em, this is awesome 😀

Who's gonna complain? The single 1.4 is supposed to be 3 or 4 times faster than the dual 1.4 in some tests according to macbidouleieleieoule....
 
Well, even though one wants to get all soapy over these 'stats', I think the real info we need is price, availability, and real world differences between these machines and the G4's.
 
No mention of 970

So what? Somebody else posted this though somewhere else but they are NOT going to delcare the new PowerMacs as "Power Mac 970". It will be called the G5 because we have had the G3 and G4 and next will be G5 regardless of processor. Do you really think that if Apple stayed with Motorolla that they would call the G5 the "Power Mac 7455" or whatever? No.. it would be the G5.. Maybe they might refer to the G5 as the Power Mac 970 as they call each model by their different traits like MMD and Graphite and Digital Audio.. but not by the "G" name. Those other names are internal for machine specifics. Apple does NOT need to specify 970 in the name of the machine to the world. They will I am sure specify in the "Tech Specs" and other places on the info about the new power macs but that doesnt change the name and has nothing to do with the "name" of the computer.
 
Originally posted by bretm
Who's gonna complain? The single 1.4 is supposed to be 3 or 4 times faster than the dual 1.4 in some tests according to macbidouleieleieoule....

Trust me, people will complain about anything, I mean, look at the negative ratings on this thread already.
 
Now, I don't know if this was a hack or not, but it sure seems(ed) that the specs were lacking. e.g. no mention of superdrive and what not.

Just another two pennies added to the pot.
 
Originally posted by TiMacLover

Oh ya, It just said G5. No mention of a 970 at all.

Do you really think that they have that loose of control over their main servers, that a slip like that could just happen by mistake???

I really don't think Apple will name the box after the processor number... Too inconsistent. Too inflexible.

Apple's lost control of their developers network server in the past, haven't they? I seem to remember things showing up for the general public that were intendend for "elite" developers only to be quickly removed.

Hacking the main page I could see, but hacking the store? If that's not bulletproof, it's dangerous... Think of how easy it would be to redirect a credit card number with a few hacked links.

You have to think this is being treated as a major release. I'm sure they're testing and retesting the pages so they can cut over cleanly. The gifs had the same name. I'm guessing someone put something in the wrong place, or thought they had taken the store down for internal testing...

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't have long before I'll know for sure!

I'll be the guy in the sleeping bag on University Ave...
 
Originally posted by TiMacLover
This is a cheap attemp for publicity just like the whole iMac on time magazine, I have been around too long to know Apple doesn't do anything on accident. If that was a accident he would have sued Time I bet.


This came from a Spymac Poster :

Fake... definitely a hack. The picture wasn't even changed, or the model chooser halfway down the page wasn't either....It still said single 1Ghz, dual 1.25, and dual 1.42Ghz... 8GB RAM...cmon. You guys are so gullible. Obviously a hack.

Oh ya, It just said G5. No mention of a 970 at all.

And... if it wasn't a hoax why would Apple pull it down so quick. Do you really think that they have that loose of control over their main servers, that a slip like that could just happen by mistake??? I think not.... If it was legit, it would still be up. Apple doesn't make mistakes like this.

In any case, I'm all for the 970 and stuff, but this just reeks of hack.

Sorry but that poster at Spymac is a complete moron. Only one image was replaced because the images are sliced. Only one file was overwritten. Someone is going to risk going to jail for a little fun with a few mac users that may see it? That's just stupid. Loose control over their servers? Well, if they did, that explains how they got hacked. But he's saying they have tight control. It got pulled because people were calling asking for the G5! It was pulled because it's not a released product yet! Sorry, that guy is a moron.
 
Originally posted by coumerelli
Now, I don't know if this was a hack or not, but it sure seems(ed) that the specs were lacking. e.g. no mention of superdrive and what not.

Just another two pennies added to the pot.

possibly superdrives across the line?

then again, something like that would be pretty major as well...
 
We'll see Monday, but Steve does talk about browsing some of the rumor forums in days before the shows.

And some of the 100% accurate info has been dropped by new members having 1 post during the last couple big intros.

Wouldn't put it past Steve to intentionally play games to gauge consumer reactions before the "official" announcement.

Doesn't hurt if he's still able to make some last minute tweaks to the specs.
 
My guess is that they were already planning on taking the store down temporarily to upload the new graphics (for testing purposes) and took the store down a little too late. 😛

I REALLY hope the image is real, for Apple's sake.
 
I feel really sorry

I feel really sorry for the whole chain of people who screwed this up at Apple. They might lose their jobs, and this is a terrible time to be without a job.

You know, this rumor stuff is all fun and games until someone loses their job.

I've worked with Steve before, and I can hear in my mind the conversation between the manager who had to pick up the phone and call Steve at home and tell him about this. "Uh, Hi, Steve. Sorry to bother you at home, but we've had an issue."

I wouldn't want to be that person.
 
Congrats to Arn:

Looks like you scooped the world on this one. Be prepared for an onslaught of hits tomorrow once this reaches the mainstream. 😉

And no, I don't think it was a hack. I agree with all of those who said it's most likely the result of someone (who is as we speak being blindfolded and stood up against a wall in Cupertino 🙂 ) posting the wrong image to the wrong folder. It's only one image on a site that has thousands. If someone hacked Apple, they'd hit the front page, not some obscure images folder.
 
D'oh. Coumerelli's right.

Originally posted by coumerelli
Now, I don't know if this was a hack or not, but it sure seems(ed) that the specs were lacking. e.g. no mention of superdrive and what not.

Just another two pennies added to the pot.

This chap raises an excellent point. Apple would be foolish to overlook any mention of the OPTICAL DRIVE in a GIF like that...

The wind in my sails have just been deflated by that revelation alone... don't let your expectations soar too high, guys.
 
Re: I feel really sorry

Originally posted by mstecker
I feel really sorry for the whole chain of people who screwed this up at Apple. They might lose their jobs, and this is a terrible time to be without a job.

You know, this rumor stuff is all fun and games until someone loses their job.

I've worked with Steve before, and I can hear in my mind the conversation between the manager who had to pick up the phone and call Steve at home and tell him about this. "Uh, Hi, Steve. Sorry to bother you at home, but we've had an issue."

I wouldn't want to be that person.

I don't understand what the big deal is?

So what, people know the stats a couple days early. This will just increase interest for the event.

3 days... lol thats it. Things happen, people are human.

Maybe I am missing the real ramifications of this. I don't see any myself.
 
Originally posted by TiMacLover
http://www.garyschechter.com/G5/g5.html .... look at the bottom of the page under "Architecture" it saysUp to 2GB memory, not the same as the top image of specs.

It also says "G4 specs". The G5 stats are and overview. The only suspicious thing is no Superdrive mention, but I doubt a hacker would miss that since it is on the current overview sheet. My bet is that they're putting together the page for Monday @ 3PM, immediately after Steve-o is done talking. They're testing and someone messed up because the file names are the same.

As someone else said, a hack likely would've attacked the frontpage of Apple and not the store, or put up fake images and fake prices - not just a little graphic. No, I think this is real. I also think Apple would have already posted information that it was a hack - in an attempt to thwart any damage caused if these specs aren't real.

It is possible it could be intentional on Apple's part. Think about it, it could add fuel to the fire. If Steve and company know they're going to deliver the goods, why not allow for the hype to get out of control - if they're able to match it. It could translate into a big bump in stock and a lot of free publicity, fueling a fury of Apple sales next week.

Of course, they could have exaggerated the specs too, if it was intentional. I know from two sources at IBM that they've sent 2.5GHZ 970s (.13) to Apple (haven't been told how many, but was told it was a large shipment and went with the initial 970 shipment). I wasn't expecting Apple to release those yet, but what if Steve pulls a "one more thing" and reveals the "uber-ultra-Intelkilling-PowerMac" w/ dual 2.5s and a 1.25 GHZ FSB? I doubt it, but a boy can dream, right? I think if it is a leak by Apple, that Steve is going to upstage it and just blow everyone away. Monday should not just be a huge day for us Applenuts, but also for the entire computing industry. I'd love to see 'lil Billy Gates and Intel execs watch Steve's address and take a crap in their pants when they see what he's got to offer.
 
If this indeed a fake, then I presume that Apple will release a statement on it very shortly.

If it is real however, then we will likely only hear from them the phrase "We cannot comment." You see, Apple cannot tell us that it's a fake and then it turns out to be real on Monday. That would be a lie and show that Apple is untrustworthy. So, if we hear nothing from Apple on this very soon, then that is a good sign that these specs are indeed very real! 😀

Now what about the price issue? I'm not about to spend a fortune on new PowerMac! 😡
 
This is fun for us.. sure. We visit these sites because we care and becuse we are rumor mongers. And yea.. it actually does suck to think that somebody may loose thier job at Apple because of this. However, if this is true.. stock is going to JUMP even before the damn show. Other problem is.. if it ISNT true, stock will be fuxored possibly. I know Steve Jobs doesnt like rumor sites.. because there are so many for his specific company and they try to release things before he can bring down the thunder, and sure... that would suck for him, but he also knows that if there were not rabid Mac loyalists like us, there would be no Apple Computer. So.. I really think, regardless of what happens on Monday, we will be happy. Upgrades are always good. Unless he says "We are staying with Motorolla and within 6 months we should have 1.6ghz G4's" we should be pretty happy with what he has to say.

I have never heard of a hack on Apple's website so this leak tonight makes me think that its definately an accident. I dont think that anybody should be FIRED over it.. as with a website this large.. it could be a number of peoples fault or it could just be a screw up. Its a pain in the ass dealing with large websites. I know. You have test servers and real servers and graphics named the same thing and if you just simply upload the wrong thing to the wrong server the **** can hit the fan. It happens. But I hope this G5 graphic is true because then Apple will be back in the saddle. **** MOTOROLLA!!!! Go back to Cell Phones.
 
Re: Heres what comes on monday

Originally posted by brig
We get sweet new towers, with new displays, and we get new powerbooks soon too, and i bet they are G5 as well. How do I know all of this? well I checked out the special deals section. last week I could buy ANYTHING for cheap (even 12" or a 17"). Every tower, every display, every computer, except for the xserve. Now its down to a 17" imac, ipod, an airport station, and that 23" LCD. So let think here. Why would apple put everything on sale RIGHT BEFORE a bigtime event? Hm, lets think...uhhh...hm...drawing blanks....oh right, new machines all over the place. I'll be happy to buy my PB G5 when it appears, and if (for some odd reason) it never does come, shoot , i'll buy a nice tower instead. Cheers to all, were back on top.

Cheers to that. I'm so happy! We're back on top! On Monday, the GHz war will be over, because GHz will no longer be relevant with these babies. Holly S**T, dual 2GHZ with 1GHz bus. OMG, that will kick some serious butt. And as mentioned before, 1Ghz bus is not a surprise. In the 970s, the bus is half of the proc speed. So if it's 2GHz, the bus is 1GHz, if the proc is at 2.5Ghz, the bus will be 1.25GHZ.

Cheers again!
Who wants to go out tomorrow and have a beer with me to celebrate the new G5s, and the fact that we are back on top?
 
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