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DVI came out in 1999 and has been surpassed by a plethora of new standards including HDMI and DisplayPort (which will now be using USB-Type C). Complaining that a MacBook Pro released in 2016 doesn't natively support a port standard that is nearly 20 years old seemed ridiculous.
The GTX 980 Ti has a dvi port on it. I'm not complaining about how there isn't a dvi port on the chassis itself. I have to use a mini display port to dvi adapter for my Mac now. I'm saying how are you going to connect a usb c port to a tv? A hdmi dongle. How about to a new monitor? A display port dongle.
 
Can you attach 2 Ethernet cables and 2 4K 60hz monitors at the same time?

I can on my Thinkpad X260. It's got built in LTE/4G too and a keyboard that's a pleasure to type on.

When I set it down on my Lenovo docking station, I have more IO than three MBPs put together.

I guess that makes it enterprise or business rather than all you lucky Apple-blessed Pro.

Here's a thought though. The Thinkpad you turn your nose up at costs less than the rMB - the macbook without the pro - even when upgraded to i7 and 16GB of Ram). It can be completely stripped down with off-the-shelf tools and every part can be replaced. Runs multiple operating systems without Refit/Refind hackery.

In what universe does a Macbook Pro qualify as a professional, enterprise-grade machine?

Pro means nothing, it's marketing BS! You're a professional when you practice a profession. A computer isn't going to make a pro any more than a paintbrush makes you a painter.

Apple has lost entire swathes of its former professional market and they don't care because that market is minuscule next to the hordes of aspirational, latte-sipping, fashion-conscience consumers who buy their devices as status symbols for disposable wealth.
 
Did you read my post at all? That was my point. I was responding to someone else saying that Apple was removing stuff. I was asking what was "standard." Most people griping care about their ports. I've been using adapters for years because I recognize that I am not a "normal" user. And when it comes to "Pro" users, there's no such thing as normal because it encompasses everything from developers to engineers to 3D modelers to videographers.

I read your post, just my point came out wrong. Was trying to agree with you in a weird way. Today is a long damn day, I don't think I even understand what I'm saying anymore. Sorry.
 
An OLED touch panel??? Oh now if this and the Amazon Echo competitor are true, Apple is SERIOUSLY and more importantly FINALLY taking a stab at the very heart of their industry. These are exciting times, y'all!

Did you forget the sarcasm tag?

An OLED strip and Siri-in-a-box is not my idea of a mortal wound to the industry or an exciting time.
 
Similar to the PowerBook G4 Titanium
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Thinner. Less ports. Less upgradability. Less features. That pretty much sums up Apple 'Innovation' in the past 5 years. Maybe somebody will come in at some point and realize that innovation can include more power and more features as well. But at the moment, Jony Ive and his one-trick-pony approach is all that seems to be driving Apple.

Can't just blame Ive.

Less weight, less materials, less parts, more glue. This means reduced supply chain costs, transportation, smaller environmental footprint, more efficient manufacturing process and less warranty calls from users fiddling with the internals.

Design is only one aspect of Apple's overall vision and goal.
 
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the images are for the 13" model, but it will be with 14" screen, right? cool

+ 1 for the magsafe ! why should I carry a magsafe adapter? tc tc tc... pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. pull in.. pull out.. it's annoying..
 
Apple has lost entire swathes of its former professional market and they don't care because that market is minuscule next to the hordes of aspirational, latte-sipping, fashion-conscience consumers who buy their devices as status symbols for disposable wealth.
Not just those hordes, but also the hordes of their parents, friends, acquaintances, and people who pass them on the street and hardly look at them.
 
Okay, at the risk of being eviscerated (and not directed specifically at you, maclaw21, but rather open for discussion to everyone who has commented on the lack of MagSafe), when was the last time your Macbook was really in danger of the power-cord-stuck-to-the-computer-when-someone-walks-by-thereby-pulling-the-machine-off-the-table accident? Seriously.

For some (few), this is a legitimate risk, and for them, there is an adapter. But, I would put my money on the fact that, for the vast majority of us, our computers are no longer at real risk for an accident via a hard-connected power cable.

Now, I'm open to being wrong about this. Discuss amongst yourselves.

What everybody seems to be conveniently "forgetting" is that there is nothing that suggests that if Apple does away with the MagSafe port on the MBP chassis, they won't have a USB-C-to-MagSafe dongle to compensate.

Again ... everybody getting all bent out of shape at this point is really quite premature, and most likely all for nothing.
 
Oh my god guys, it's unlikely that Apple is removing MagSafe. See that giant space on the left? I wonder what it's for...
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The chassis isn't complete and it clearly has space for a MagSafe / Smart connector.

Space for the width, yes, but not the height. MagSafe port is too thick ... if the leaked data is accurate.
 
When I set it down on my Lenovo docking station, I have more IO than three MBPs put together.
I guess that makes it enterprise or business rather than all you lucky Apple-blessed Pro.
Not quite a fair comparison, then, is it? And while I've seen much praise heaped on this computer due to it's great battery life, I've seen nothing that says it can output two 4K/60Hz streams as you claim. It does have an integrated HDMI and Mini DisplayPort ports, which is nice.

The ThinkPad X260 is an mid-level executive's laptop. It's for someone who needs to be on the go and has to have those multiple ports, just in case, and yet, remain affordable. As such, a fairer comparison would probably be against a MacBook Air.
 
Well, a Chromebook would be a better alternative than a MacBook Pro then. If Apple's intention is to create a thin client for web browsing and basic file system access. Apple could maintain two futures, the MacBook Retina for the everyday user and the MacBook Pro for the core market of professionals in design, business and power user markets.

Yeah, but if all I wanted was a thin client for light duties then I'd just buy a Chromebook, slap Linux on it and save $1500.

Oh wait, I've already done that...never mind.

An iPad with a keyboard is a much better deal than a Macbook if all you want is a thin client and functionality that can be provided by apps.
 
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Don't the up and down arrow keys fit inside the same slot on MacBook keyboards?

Yeah, they do. The smaller rectangular keys both fit inside a larger square opening in the top case.

In fact, the key openings for the keyboard on these leaked pictures appear to be identical to those on the Retina Macbook. Gonna be a user revolt from some people if that means the usage of the butterfly keyboard. It makes no difference to me ... I'm not that fussy about laptop keyboards, as long as the delete/backspace key is rectangular and not square like it is on some keyboards (that's one thing that kinda bugs me.)
 
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A headphone jack in a redesigned Apple product that is coming out in late 2016...if they're making lightning headphones for the phone, why not a lightning port in the Macbook Pro? I don't understand while Apple is making it so you can't use the same headphones in both your phone and your computer.

That computer looks great. I just hate the feel of the butterfly keys on the Macbook. They actually hurt my hands. Now, I have some issues with my hands, but I've read lots of people hate those keys.
 
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