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"With the iPhone 17e and iPhone 17, the biggest differences are the Dynamic Island, display size, ProMotion, brightness, the front-facing camera, the Ultra Wide camera, and battery life."

AND UWB.
That's a lot of downgrades for a 200 dollar difference.

Let me explain : none of the iPhones are worth their price, and the 17e model serves only one purpose: to be the most overprices of them all so the better model look like value and Apple can recoup some of the lost profit by not raising prices all-round.

Now it's creeping on the standard models as well. There will come a time when people will be tired of this. Not today. But one day.
 
I see everyone complaining. Idt people outside this forum care about yearly spec bumps anymore. The iphones been pretty much just good enough for years now, idk whos looking at the 16, 17 or 18 base and trying to see mad spec increases. Idk what more you could want from a base iphone, we're not 10 years ago anymore.

Battery life increase? I havent had a problem with battery life since the iphone 7.
I have an iphone air and come back home in the evening with 40% battery+ and im only charging up to 80.

Promotion? nobody outside this forum knows what it is or care about it.

Faster chips? Why? Chips have been overpowered for years. The only slow downs ive seen are from software bugs.

Camera? Picture quality's been the same for years and if you notice youre not the target demographic for the base iphone. I havent noticed much of a difference since the iphone Xs, pictures are just pictures and theyre all fine.

If it comes in pretty colors thats what most people will notice.
 
I don;t think so, this would be too obvious a backwards step. It will still have a dynamic island, but the same island and same screen as the current model.


If it's a faster chip over, this won't be seen as a downgrade. They just need to present "speed numbers" to be able to sew it's "the fastest (non-pro) iPhone yet".


Yes, they won't downgrade. They simply won't upgrade. Not the same thing as a downgrade.

Possibly, but again, that's an upgrade to the Pros. An upgrade to the pros that is not given to the base phone is not a downgrade to the base phone.
That’s the point I was trying to make as well. These are not “downgrades”. They will just distinguish the Pro phones more. iPhone 17 also has to last 1.5 years (Spring 2027), so they made it better than expected.
 
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