LED-Based Laptops from Apple in 2007?

[AidenShaw]

transformers suck (power) - they can be vampires

That makes no sense. Its an open circuit then. Theorethiclaly no power should be pulled.

A transformer uses significant power even when the output is an open circuit. They're always warm.

The Dell power supply has a transformer, but apparently has circuitry to disconnect the transformer when the output is open. When I plug it in, it uses about 7 watts for a second or two (after the spike), then drops to 0.1 watt. I assume that there's some active circuit that isolates the transformer.

By the way, when shopping for usb hubs, battery chargers, phone chargers, and other items with small power bricks - buy light. If the power brick is heavy, it's probably a transformer that's always sucking power. If it's lightweight, it's probably an electronic device that isn't a vampire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_vampire

 

[byeehaaw]

do you think the led screens will be out in time in july or aug so we can get the free ipod too =D?

 

[sinstoic]

I feel you are mistaken. Expect new laptops before H2'07. -Clive

Apple at any cost has to succeed at iPhone! To this effect, they have chosen to delay the release of Leopard. Shareholders are interested in profits only, it doesn't matter if it is from iPhone or Macbooks. Apple has made it clear that it is no longer just a computer company. Keep in mind, unlike iPod, Apple will offer a large number of accessories for iPhone. And then we don't know about the next generation iPod (touchscreen?) and Apple TV (DVR?, Game console?).

I may be wrong but I believe (due to lack of time to develop computers):

Apple is likely to offer free upgrades to Leopard (when it is released in October 2007) for computers bought during/after WWDC 2007 and empty its current generation computers to back to school suckers!

Apple can afford to skip computers based on Merom + Santarosa in June/October 2007 and announce Penryn + Bearlake systems during Macworld 2008.

 

[lazyrighteye]

The only thing I agree with here is yes, new books are coming, but like someone else said, they aren't going to update this month, and then again in 3 months. We'll get new processors and displays perhaps near the start of the next school year, can't miss the back to school buying season.

My memory isn't the best... but I want to say that I recall Apple always missing the back to school shopping period.
Is that accurate?

Thanks.

 

[Mr Fusion]

Apple is likely to offer free upgrades to Leopard (when it is released in October 2007) for computers bought during/after WWDC 2007 and empty its current generation computers to back to school suckers!

Apple can afford to skip computers based on Merom + Santarosa in June/October 2007 and announce Penryn + Bearlake systems during Macworld 2008.

Easy for you to say... My PB Ti is literally falling apart at the seams! I would buy a new MBP to replace it, but am not willing to pay todays price for yesterdays hardware.

I think the next update to the MBP line will be big, a significant case re-design as well as new insides. Once Leopard is unveiled, the hardware across all product lines will be changed to reflect it. To me such reasoning makes more sense than the hysteria over the iPhone.

 

[flopticalcube]

My memory isn't the best... but I want to say that I recall Apple always missing the back to school shopping period.
Is that accurate?

Thanks.

If you go by the MacRumor's buying guide, there are a lot of 9s and 10s in the months and not a lot of 7s and 8s so your memory is just fine.

 

[sikkinixx]

hurry apple before I cave and buy a dell

 

[Zadillo]

For anyone who wants to see the benefits of LED-backlighting, see if you can find a store with a premium Sony SZ laptop on display (models like the SZ370, SZ450, SZ460, etc.) or the Sony TX ultraportable laptops. These premium SZ models as well as the TX feature LED-backlighting, and they do a good job of showing how they are brighter and more vibrant than normal non-LED backlit screens.

I can't wait to see these on Apple's portables.

 

[deadpoet]

TN film panels, or S-IPS?

Does anyone know if these new LED-based LCDs for Mac notebooks will use TN panels? That is my big fear, since most of the new "enhanced gamut" LCDs nowadays are actually crappy TN panels.

Why can't they use S-IPS for notebook displays? My MBP's screen sucks compared to my Cinema Display. I want good colour accuracy on my notebook, not just on my desktop. An enhanced gamut notebook LCD is all well and good, but it's pretty much wasted if the viewing angles are pathetic, as is the case with TN panels.

 

[whatever]

I would like to see that done, if they are it will have to be alongside of Steve Jobs 'demi-god' child called the iPhone. They may be there but I would doubt it. But if they are do not expect much media attention from the release as the iPhone will get.

Mac Book Pros will sell whether or not they are updated.

iPhone is a new product and will be heavily marketed to try and get people to buy into it.

You know what, it comes down to this.

Apple has made more money with the iPod since it's release than it has with computers.

And one of the reason that Apple is able to invest time and resources into their computer business is due largely to the success of the iPod. The iPod has raised the awareness of Apple as a whole. Might this awareness had happen without the iPod, maybe, but regardless the iPod execrated it. The entire "halo" concept appears to be working.

And if the iPhone is a success expect more of the same for Apple.

 

[jonutarr]

if they will help keep fan noise down i will be very interested

 

[whatever]

I just want Apple Inc. to offer a laptop with a screen bigger then 13 inches for LESS THEN $2000.00..... How hard can that be? How Hard?

Well, you should head over to the nearest Apple Store and pick a 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro. This baby has a 15 inch screen,1440 x 900 pixels, 1GB memory, 120GB hard drive1, 6x double-layer SuperDrive,
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB SDRAM and costs only $1,999.00.

 

[LaMerVipere]

Please let there be an updated MBP with LED and Santa Rosa sometime this summer, ideally at WWDC! I've got the cash and am ready to spend spend spend!

 

[Chef Medeski]

Please let there be an updated MBP with LED and Santa Rosa sometime this summer, ideally at WWDC! I've got the cash and am ready to spend spend spend!

Here here. And if there was tablet. Id squeem. I wonder if the makers of the ModBook would update their lines to include Santa Rosa immediately. I would so get me one then.

 

[kingofkolt]

From what I've been reading on these forums (I just registered but I've read the forums for a while), the general concensus seems to be that Apple will update the MBP line before the school year; am I right? One person mentioned that Apple hasn't been too good about meeting back to school demand (it often updated the MBP in September/October), but I noticed that this is the longest time from the beginning of any year that Apple has waited to update the MBP. Every other year, the MBP was updated in January or April (or both). I'm just worried as hell that Apple won't update it before August and I'll be going to school with my crappy 3-year-old Dell. I want to wait until the MBP is updated because I do a lot of both gaming and graphic design and I have to wonder, will they update the video card to something better, like the x1900? Or, maybe something by NVIDIA?

Anyone have any idea how likely that is?

 

[Zadillo]

From what I've been reading on these forums (I just registered but I've read the forums for a while), the general concensus seems to be that Apple will update the MBP line before the school year; am I right? One person mentioned that Apple hasn't been too good about meeting back to school demand (it often updated the MBP in September/October), but I noticed that this is the longest time from the beginning of any year that Apple has waited to update the MBP. Every other year, the MBP was updated in January or April (or both). I'm just worried as hell that Apple won't update it before August and I'll be going to school with my crappy 3-year-old Dell. I want to wait until the MBP is updated because I do a lot of both gaming and graphic design and I have to wonder, will they update the video card to something better, like the x1900? Or, maybe something by NVIDIA?

Anyone have any idea how likely that is?

There hasn't been anything to update the MBP too. The Santa Rosa platform debuting May 9th is the first real thing since the Core 2 Duo chip was introduced that warrants an update.

It is very likely that Apple will have to do a Santa Rosa update in June or July, to keep up with other laptop makers.

The 15" MBP will still have to use a GPU designed for 15" laptops........ right now that would be something like the GeForce 8600M..... we haven't heard of ATI's equivalent upgrade yet (i.e. a mobile X2600).

 

[ncbill]

No 11" LED-backlit panels in that story?

Guess we won't be seeing the rumored MBP-Mini until 2008 after all.

(11" panels seem to be the choice for US-market subnotebooks)

 

[diehldun]

From what I've been reading on these forums (I just registered but I've read the forums for a while), the general concensus seems to be that Apple will update the MBP line before the school year; am I right? One person mentioned that Apple hasn't been too good about meeting back to school demand (it often updated the MBP in September/October), but I noticed that this is the longest time from the beginning of any year that Apple has waited to update the MBP. Every other year, the MBP was updated in January or April (or both). I'm just worried as hell that Apple won't update it before August and I'll be going to school with my crappy 3-year-old Dell. I want to wait until the MBP is updated because I do a lot of both gaming and graphic design and I have to wonder, will they update the video card to something better, like the x1900? Or, maybe something by NVIDIA?

Anyone have any idea how likely that is?

Looks like we're both in the same boat. I REALLY want Apple to release a new MBP (or even MB) this summer before school starts.

 

[heisetax]

What does Apple still make computers?

I thought they just made music devices, wireless video routers, and cell phones.

Sad, Sad, Sad!

Even OS X is suffering due to the diversification of Apple.

Finally someone saying what I have said for a long time. My Mac Pro suffers from not being an Apple design, but an Intel design. The last PPC G5 PCI Express PowerMacs have 32 lanes for use. The Intel designed Intel Mac Pro has only 26 lanes. My video cards use 16 + 8 or 24 of those lanes. A SCSI card wants 4 lanes, but I have only 2 available. That means that video must be degraded.

Apple had already taken Computer out of their business long before they took computer out of their name. These non-Mac ideas are in general nice, but as we are seeing they are at a cost of much slower Mac hardware & software development.

Bill the TaxMan

 

[iW00t]

Finally someone saying what I have said for a long time. My Mac Pro suffers from not being an Apple design, but an Intel design. The last PPC G5 PCI Express PowerMacs have 32 lanes for use. The Intel designed Intel Mac Pro has only 26 lanes. My video cards use 16 + 8 or 24 of those lanes. A SCSI card wants 4 lanes, but I have only 2 available. That means that video must be degraded.

Apple had already taken Computer out of their business long before they took computer out of their name. These non-Mac ideas are in general nice, but as we are seeing they are at a cost of much slower Mac hardware & software development.

Bill the TaxMan

I think it is not because of Intel's design, but more because of Apple's own cost cutting specifications.

 

[twoodcc]

looking forward to them