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Thanks Giz

Now that the features have been released because of Gizmodo, I.e. the front facing camera, Apple will probably take it out at the last minute. Sike!!
 
simply i think if the person took it. didnt try returning it, then went on and sold it then it is theft and then sale of a stolen item. not entirely sure of the law in california but it's illegal here.

on another note. first time i saw this phone i didn't like the design, however as this story is big news and pictures of the phone keep popping up. i'm starting to like it :)
 
Here's the thing, though: Why would Apple sue someone over all this free publicity? I mean, really, all they are getting out of this is positive media coverage. Not only is everyone talking about it, but they are also in Apple's corner. They should just let it go, and be thankful for the free advertising.

Maybe because they want to do whats right? Apple hasn't stated their intentions though. They are probably reading these posts trying to figure out how everyone will react... :)

It is true that Gizmodo has a Pro-Apple slant to all of this even though they stole from Apple.... Stealing from someone you admire.... Maybe we should have someone psychoanalyze this...
 
I'm surprised that Apple wasn't at the bar the next morning buying it, then tearing it apart piece by piece. I don't think Apple was looking too hard. And, it took them a little time (time for Gizmodo to make videos, tear it apart and document it) before sending that little email to them. Apple gave them just enough time to get what they wanted. Really, how long does it take a Lawyer to type an email of demand? And I'm sure Apple had tracked the phone to it's last location while still being powered up. You know that Gizmodo tried to do that.
 
why does the owner of the bar have any right to the phone?

if i'm in a Walmart parking lot and find 20 bucks sitting on the ground, am I supposed to give it to someone at Walmart to "give back to the owner"?
$20? No. This phone? You need to turn it over to the police. It's required by the law if you can't find the owner on your own. Giving it to the bar is a pretty reasonable way to get it back to its owner, considering anyone that lost a phone there is going to go back and see if it is there. You don't get to keep it and sell it to someone else. It doesn't belong to you (morally or legally).
 
I was a star commenter on Gizmodo up until today when I criticized their journalistic ethics. I won't be visiting that site ever again. Hope they do get sued.
 
You can't tell a prototype from a knockoff without taking it apart. And as soon as they took it apart, they released what they found, requested a formal letter from Apple and returned it.

And please don't equate blogs with journalism. That's just a silly notion right there.

Which would satisfy me just fine if only they had not first PAID $5000 FOR IT! May I see a copy of the check they wrote? It was CASH? They happened to have $5000 in cash that day laying around?

Blogs have been determined to be journalists, BTW. Maybe not good ones, but hey!

Rocketman
 
Here's the thing, though: Why would Apple sue someone over all this free publicity? I mean, really, all they are getting out of this is positive media coverage. Not only is everyone talking about it, but they are also in Apple's corner. They should just let it go, and be thankful for the free advertising.

they are not interested in that kind of media.

if they want exposure they will pay for it. The secrecy has always bin a way to bust sales after the conference, they know how hipped up we get (kind of like how kids get all worked up at toy commercial only its a secret:D)
 
The sad part of this whole debacle is this could have ended up so much better for the dude who found it. Instead of having the stress and specter of having to explain why it was that he sold someone else's property he could have just driven over to Apple and asked to have a latte with Steve Jobs.

Even if Apple didn't give him a reward for his effort he would have done the right thing and avoided the possible legal burdens that will certainly hang over his head even if Apple and the district attorney avoid legal action. And if either do choose some form of legal remedy the $5000 he received from Gawker/Gizmodo won't go very far.
 
LOL! you make something aestethically and functionally out of another world, - then whenever somone has the chance, they *steal* it, and frenetically picks it to pieces. that's logically and ironically the consequence of being that secretive.. HAHA
 
the more i read the more i believe this stinks, lets look at the facts.

The Seller.
1 once phone was found no attempt to to contact bar staff, police or Apple.

2 once the owners identity was confirmed via facebook still did not return, he could have posted his own contact details on the guys status so he could contact him.

3 procede to seek financial gain rather than return the device to its owner.

4 sold device and story.

then you have gizmodo, they could have easily contacted Apple and informed them that they had some one trying to sell them a possible Apple prototype, they could have negotiated with apple to help return the phone for perhaps a earlier sneak peak later on, i would have thought apple would have been very grateful to Giz if they had, however what did they do,

1: conspire to purchase lost and likely stolen goods.

2: then proceed to publicly out this prototype product, then by doing this they massively gained finically from website hits and advertising and hurt Apple by giving there competitors an look at a yet unreleased product.

3: they then proceeded to publicly oust the Apple employee who misplaced/theft victim causing him untold public harm.

4: proceeded to parade Apple legal letter requesting there property to be returned.

To me this really is fishy. TBH i get the feeling this may have even been a staged theft, its not hard to find out what some one does for a living, then follow them around a bit until an opportunity arrises, to me it quite possible the Gizmodo have been involved in organised theft of trade secrets, Apple have been so quiet on this i think the are cooking up a whole bucket of hell to unleash on Gizmodo.
 
gizmodo knew what they were doing and made a calculated bet that apple wasnt going to do anything in response and I think they are right in their bet. although the whole thing is messed up.

no reason for apple to sue them or press charges. too much press.

i actually doubt that apple would ban gizmodo from future product events as well.

dont forget, gizmodo was the place who first wrote about steve jobs being deathly sick - a much more personal subject to steve than this and gizmodo never saw a change with the way they get to go to events.
 
Here's the thing, though: Why would Apple sue someone over all this free publicity? I mean, really, all they are getting out of this is positive media coverage. Not only is everyone talking about it, but they are also in Apple's corner. They should just let it go, and be thankful for the free advertising.

That's why it's done later.
 
LOL! you make something aestethically and functionally out of another world, - then whenever somone has the chance, they *steal* it, and frenetically picks it to pieces. that's logically and ironically the consequence of being that secretive.. HAHA
 
Yeah, I know Apple is secretive about everything and some people probably think this is funny.

But no matter who it happened to, I find the behavior of the guy who found the phone, and of Gizmodo, to be inappropriate.

Gizmodo is a tech blog that knows as much or more about Apple products as anyone. They knew they were getting, effectively, a stolen device. And they knew exactly what it was- otherwise who would pay $5,000 for it?

People lose stuff all the time. Could happen to any of us. I've lost stuff before that was expensive and never got turned into a lost and found, and it sucks! Just because you "find" something, it doesn't make it yours!!!! Is that the kind of society we live in now? (rhetorical question- it IS! remember the dateline episode where they planted ipods and people just lifted them almost every time?)
 
the more i read the more i believe this stinks, lets look at the facts.

The Seller.
1 once phone was found no attempt to to contact bar staff, police or Apple.

2 once the owners identity was confirmed via facebook still did not return, he could have posted his own contact details on the guys status so he could contact him.

3 procede to seek financial gain rather than return the device to its owner.

4 sold device and story.

then you have gizmodo, they could have easily contacted Apple and informed them that they had some one trying to sell them a possible Apple prototype, they could have negotiated with apple to help return the phone for perhaps a earlier sneak peak later on, i would have thought apple would have been very grateful to Giz if they had, however what did they do,

1: conspire to purchase lost and likely stolen goods.

2: then proceed to publicly out this prototype product, then by doing this they massively gained finically from website hits and advertising and hurt Apple by giving there competitors an look at a yet unreleased product.

3: they then proceeded to publicly oust the Apple employee who misplaced/theft victim causing him untold public harm.

4: proceeded to parade Apple legal letter requesting there property to be returned.

To me this really is fishy. TBH i get the feeling this may have even been a staged theft, its not hard to find out what some one does for a living, then follow them around a bit until an opportunity arrises, to me it quite possible the Gizmodo have been involved in organised theft of trade secrets, Apple have seen so quiet on this i think the are cooking up a whole bucket of hell to unleash on Gizmodo.

I can see them waiting for Gizmodo to further incriminate themselves... They have three years to sue them, they may just wait for the new phone to be released first.
 
Gizmodo paid 5k for a device that "may" have been an apple device? They knew it was all along I assure you!

But that right there is EXACTLY why no one is going to be charged with any crimes in this case. Because proving that in a court of law is a very tall order.
 
Here's the thing, though: Why would Apple sue someone over all this free publicity? I mean, really, all they are getting out of this is positive media coverage. Not only is everyone talking about it, but they are also in Apple's corner. They should just let it go, and be thankful for the free advertising.

I'll be blunt...

Because they can!! Do you really need a better reason? :eek:
 
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