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Lenovo CEO on Steve Jobs and Apple's Efforts in China
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"We are lucky that Steve Jobs has such a bad temper and doesn't care about China."
Pretty fatalistic thing to say. As though Lenovo has no control over their own destiny. Then again, he's probably right, Steve does care about China, and Lenovo's luck has run out.
"We are lucky that Steve Jobs has such a bad temper and doesn't care about China."
Pretty fatalistic thing to say. As though Lenovo has no control over their own destiny. Then again, he's probably right, Steve does care about China, and Lenovo's luck has run out.
His quote kind of reminds me of Micheal Dell back in the day. Let's see how Apple approaches this one.
In a capitalistic society, you pay 30% of what you earn for taxes , In a communist society, you pay 8%. I would rather throw 8% to government and keep rest 22% for my oldness. who knows if you are able to live that old to use up your tax money, that's how capitalistic society tricks you. you need to be little smarter
Just keep on under estimating Steve Jobs.
Right up until he steals the bread right out of your mouth.
You won't even see him coming...!
Right up until he steals the bread right out of your mouth.
You won't even see him coming...!
It makes sense for the Apple Store to be in metropolitan centers like Beijing and Shanghai. Now it's time for Hong Kong 
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China is a place where the rich are super rich and the poor are super poor, so people who seek designer clothes and whatnot may also be interested in Apple.
. China is a place where the rich are super rich and the poor are super poor, so people who seek designer clothes and whatnot may also be interested in Apple.
At this point Apple doesn't really need to focus on China. Those who can afford it will buy it, either from Hong Kong or during their overseas holidays. China is definitely not deprived of apple goods at all.
I'd be more worried if Apple does focus on china, releases an affordable product and have it copied left right and centre with fakes flooding the street, every single device jailbroken, it would be a mess.
I'd be more worried if Apple does focus on china, releases an affordable product and have it copied left right and centre with fakes flooding the street, every single device jailbroken, it would be a mess.
Really??
Land of 1 billion people. Just say 10% can afford it. That's 100 million people or 50% of entire US population.
Steve may have a temper but he aint stupid.
China maybe a higher priority than Verizon.
and u really think that u dont need as much money when u get old in a communist country or government healthcare is sufficient for old people in a communistic country, u must have not visited one.
North Korean, China, Russian old people beg to differ....they would LOVE to trade position with u in a heartbeat.
Unfortunately Steve Jobs doesn't care about computers so you have nothing to worry about Mr. Liu.
Steve thinks they are "trucks" and people don't need trucks. What steve doesn't want to admit is that PC sales continue to skyrocket.
ipad is insignificant on the grand scheme of things. I guess people need more crapplets?
Steve thinks they are "trucks" and people don't need trucks. What steve doesn't want to admit is that PC sales continue to skyrocket.
ipad is insignificant on the grand scheme of things. I guess people need more crapplets?
I really hope that, some day, you will appreciate the insane hilarity of claiming that Russia is a communist country. While there is no way of accurately classifying the current state of the Russian Federation along clear-cut capitalist/socialist dividing lines, parts of it are so laissez-faire that William F. Buckley would cream his trousers just at the thought of what a corporation can get away with.
Other parts are extremely corrupt and other parts (particularly those that relate to presidential power) show all the signs of a fascist military machine. Neither of these have anything to do with what Marx, Lenin or even Mao talked about when defining their particular version of the concept "communist".
And there are a ton of signs that China is going in an equally non-socialist/non-communist direction as well, although with different results. But I digress, and you, most likely, don't care about that either.
Also, getting back to the topic, I love how Lenovo's CEO is so expertly displaying a complete lack of cojones (being afraid of a company) while simultaneously, to paraphrase Bill Hicks, carrying around his balls in a wheelbarrow (publicly mocking Steve Jobs).
You want to live in an "idea" but in reality no country has ever achieve the true concept of "communism", at least no significant amount of time or large enough of a population. At the end of the day, human greed for power or money defeats the "ideal or concept". It's clearly on display in China or Russia. Either case, you would be better off growing old in good old USA than one of those countries.
communism is a system created by the jealous, lazy and those who fail to understand that life is unfair, period.
Actual pure Communism is not bad. The problem is when you have corrupt officials.
Back in the day, when the Communists took over China, and had the Revolution, they killed many rich people. Ass did many other revolutions.
A revolution often overthrows the powerful, which is what happened in your family's case. Afterwords, they gave the majority of the wealth they seized to the people. Of course, they kept some, to remain in power.
That's actually false.
My grandparents receive retirement money. About $1000 USD a month.
He wasn't a government official before, he was just a regular doctor.
Free healthcare too.
nothing regular about being a "doctor". even in a communist country, there are different social levels.
Who said anything about where I want to spend my days, be it the later ones or any other? I'm perfectly happy to spend my life in my present place of residence, which, unless I've been hallucinating for the entirety of my life, is not an "idea". It's a real country. You're welcome to come visit anytime.
I was merely making some remarks on the fact that your comment displayed a very uninformed view of what categorizes the Russian Federation. Whether or not you consider communism possible to achieve in reality, is completely beside the point. You were suggesting that Russia is communist, which is pretty ridiculous to anyone that hasn't been living under a rock for the last 20 years.
meh...it's in Pudong granted, it's at a very nice venue though.
And meh, Apple stuff will still be more expensive than in HK Which is kinda ridiculous when you think that it's all manufactured in China anyway, then exported and re-imported on paper, so it can be sold at prices higher than in the US! I hate you Apple!
...which means I'll have to wait till my vacation to buy a new MBP
granted, it's at a very nice venue though. And meh, Apple stuff will still be more expensive than in HK
Which is kinda ridiculous when you think that it's all manufactured in China anyway, then exported and re-imported on paper, so it can be sold at prices higher than in the US! I hate you Apple! ...which means I'll have to wait till my vacation to buy a new MBP
China is the next bubble to burst. Whatever their government is saying I would divide it by 5. Reality is that only the select few can really enjoy life there. Most of the larger cities (large office buildings) are occupied by American/European businessman. Sure, the country has vastly improved economically over the past few years but when you are all the way on the bottom, the only way to go is really up.
I am also from an ex-communist country, based on my experiences, if you are not a member of certain groups, you will have a very hard time (and a lot of censorship) to achieve anything. Communism doesn't lead to innovation, it leads to corruption and disintegration. Chinese are not leaders but followers. Any new great idea is just taken over by the government, giving regular people no motivation to be imaginative. Right now most of the things they develop are basically stolen from the west, one of the examples are their high speed Shinkansen trains, they literally bought one German Siemens model and copied it to the bone. As a side note, during the construction of one of the lines on the countryside, one of the village women didn't want to leave her house due to construction, guess what the workers did? Buried her alive right in her own house. Human rights for average country man are non existent. Sure, some people may get excited by seeing Shanghai or Pekin but there is a lot more unhappy people living on the country sides. The recent school killings or the Apple factory workers suicide are just one of a lot of incidents where people simply lose their mind and can not take it anymore.
I am also from an ex-communist country, based on my experiences, if you are not a member of certain groups, you will have a very hard time (and a lot of censorship) to achieve anything. Communism doesn't lead to innovation, it leads to corruption and disintegration. Chinese are not leaders but followers. Any new great idea is just taken over by the government, giving regular people no motivation to be imaginative. Right now most of the things they develop are basically stolen from the west, one of the examples are their high speed Shinkansen trains, they literally bought one German Siemens model and copied it to the bone. As a side note, during the construction of one of the lines on the countryside, one of the village women didn't want to leave her house due to construction, guess what the workers did? Buried her alive right in her own house. Human rights for average country man are non existent. Sure, some people may get excited by seeing Shanghai or Pekin but there is a lot more unhappy people living on the country sides. The recent school killings or the Apple factory workers suicide are just one of a lot of incidents where people simply lose their mind and can not take it anymore.
Let me guess, the only contact you have with Russia is with Moscow/Odessa/St.Petersburg. You do not want to be older and get sick in Russia and you do not want to retire as a peasant in Russia. People there still pack meat in old newspapers. Average monthly salary of a factory worker is no more than $400. I know that Moscow would make you think that Russia is uber rich but except for a couple of ex-KGB oligarchs, coming from an average family and being young and educated does not give you a lot of perspectives for a better life. I haven't met one Russian person who emigrated to USA that would consider coming there back. And I have a lot of Russian friends. Only ex-Eastern European countries that show promise are Czech, Poland, and up until recently Hungary.
And GM at one time was the largest corporation in the world but they never really took Europe or any Asian country by storm. Only up until recently GM with its Buick division actually started to listen to Chinese buyers and catered their designs around them in the from of the new Buick Lacrosse and Buick Regal. Also, Pontiac had a lot more sales in USA over the past couple of years than Buick but it was Pontiac that was shot down due to the fact that GM cared more about the Chinese market where Buick has a strong presence. Reality is that no one product will cater to everyone around the world. Most countries have different cultures, values, historical differences, reality is that most of Apples current economic success is due to their USA sales, they are not that dominant anywhere else. And remember, Apple over 10 years ago was on a brink of bankruptcy, tables in the corporate world can turn very quickly if constant mistakes and arrogance come in to play.
If Apple OS X can truely and simplistically natively support Chinese scripts and virtual handwritten on MBP or desktops & especially with iPhone & iPad ... then entrenching iTunes U there with major schools and having local publishers do the following then it'll be larger than the USA:
* Save publishers and authors HUGE costs by going fully digital & copyrighted.
* deliver quickly and with wide support - China is NOT the only population of ppl that speak/write/read in the languages natively there (many have travelled and immigrated elsewhere.
* Graphic drawing - freehand on iPad could explode there ... especially if iPad gets HUGE graphics power for gen2 (think Cortex A9 multicore cpu with Nvidia Tegra graphics implementation x 2 chipsets and better battery; smaller memory chips.
* English & other language support goes completely mobile.
Key point to remember is that culture along with the Japanes inherently excel and embrace technology at a FASTER pace & at a MUCH younger age than those of us here in North America.