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The IBM Thinkpads were built like tanks and were awesome. Ever since they got bought out by Lenovo though I think a lot of that trusted IBM quality doesn't quite apply any more.

Then you haven't used a Lenovo (who built them for IBM). Their Thinkpads are built the same.

And you're right. They're ugly. Always have been. Then again, when I see someone with it, I know they mean business. When I see someone with a Mac.....

My Lenovo Thinkpad W500 seems stronger than my MBP. I have no issues man handling the W500 but with all the people denting and breaking their MBPs on this forum, I am really careful with the MBP.

And look at all the people who worry about keyboard covers for their MBs and MBPs on this website to protect their keyboards from getting a bit shiny, soft and hard plastic covers to protect the outer aluminium, or all those "which laptop sleeve should I get?" threads.

It's funny to see the people with new Macs scrambling around. ;)
 
Also Thinkpads have measures to protect against spills so if I spilled a liquid on it, I'd have little worry that something would be damage. Now on a mac.. lol
 
And Mac users would say, "Why should Apple include spill-guard keyboards? It's your fault for being so careless!"

How much would it cost Apple to implement a plastic keyboard back-cover with a hose that leads to the bottom of the laptop case (like in many Lenovos)? Perhaps they could implement both the spill-guard and keyboard backlight, but maybe it was either the spillguard, or the pretty lights.


Then again, the OP was after an IdeaPad instead of a ThinkPad. IdeaPads seem to be built quite sturdy, but I wonder if they're as protected against accidents?
 
Then again, when I see someone with it, I know they mean business. When I see someone with a Mac.....

...You know they're just dicking around LOL
Definitely kidding, I'm WAY more productive on my mac than I ever was with my WinXP setup.

Thinkpads are built to last, I used one for several months and those things can take a beating without being noticeably harmed. I think :apple: should make a more rugged laptop. The reason we buy so many "condoms" to don our computers is because they are made to be so fragile for the sake of being thin.
They could easily do it and still keep the precious aesthetics of a Mac (i.e. the Lacie rugged drive minus orange color.)
 
I watched my uncle drop a Thinkpad from a foot off the desk, onto the desktop. Laptop was open, running, and the drop didn't even phase it. The "shock-absorbers" protected the hard disk with that security feature thing.

I almost crapped my pants as he let go of a 3,500$ laptop......on purpose
 
If you are strapped for cash, and don't care whether you use Windows or Mac, I'd say you'll be happier with the Ideapad. If you are in a situation where you have the money for a MBP and are merely debating which will give you the bigger bang, get the MBP.
 
Then you haven't used a Lenovo (who built them for IBM). Their Thinkpads are built the same.

I'd go as far to say Lenovo has managed to improve on IBM as far as ThinkPad quality goes. These things are absolutely built like a rock.
 
Meh, to this day, I cannot understand why many PC companies still decide to use that unstable pop-out DVD drive, so cheap. That's the great thing about Apple's notebooks, ALL of them use slot load drives. It's seems professional and stable and not flimsy. How hard is it for Lenovo to use a slot load drive? Cheap crap.
 
Meh, to this day, I cannot understand why many PC companies still decide to use that unstable pop-out DVD drive, so cheap. That's the great thing about Apple's notebooks, ALL of them use slot load drives. It's seems professional and stable and not flimsy. How hard is it for Lenovo to use a slot load drive? Cheap crap.

Because that "cheap" and "unstable" tray-load DVD drive is less prone to problems than a slot-load. The roller motor is yet another thing that is prone to break down, the lens is more likely to get dirty, as a general rule tray-load can accept the smaller size or non-standard size discs whereas slot load does not.

And as the last gen MBP shows, it doesn't take much to crush the opening of a slot-load so that the drive is effectively out of commission.
 
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