Leopard Build 9A377a Details Emerging

[Lonon]

My theory:
The previews are old. The real builds are coming.
Remember the double life of Tiger in Intel? Remenber the fake prototypes that Apple gave to some employees to provide disinformation? The Leopard builds are the new conspiracy thing of the month (maybe to much X-Files). Apple is playing with us.

Steve will PREVIEW Leopard with all the secret stuff on the WWDC and announce that it will be on sale in June 21, the last possible day. Then, Apple will have a few weeks to iron out the final bugs and developers will have a final beta to work with until the OS ships.

BTW, i'm keeping my hopes low regarding the top secret features. I just can't see how they can improve the OS with new and astonishing things like once were Dashboard, Spotlight, or even Safari. Don't get me wrong, Spaces and Time Machine are very cool but in time the coolness factor has faded in me. On the other hand i could be wrong, and they could WOW us away (pun intended xD). I just don't expect it to be that way

 

[CoreWeb]

My theory:
The previews are old. The real builds are coming.
Remember the double life of Tiger in Intel? Remenber the fake prototypes that Apple gave to some employees to provide disinformation? The Leopard builds are the new conspiracy thing of the month (maybe to much X-Files). Apple is playing with us.

Steve will PREVIEW Leopard with all the secret stuff on the WWDC and announce that it will be on sale in June 21, the last possible day. Then, Apple will have a few weeks to iron out the final bugs and developers will have a final beta to work with until the OS ships.

BTW, i'm keeping my hopes low regarding the top secret features. I just can't see how they can improve the OS with new and astonishing things like once were Dashboard, Spotlight, or even Safari. Don't get me wrong, Spaces and Time Machine are very cool but in time the coolness factor has faded in me. On the other hand i could be wrong, and they could WOW us away (pun intended xD). I just don't expect it to be that way

Actually, I would think that Apple would require two to three weeks just to get the DVDs created and boxed, which means they should probably be finished with the OS itself by June 1st. But I do agree that we haven't been seeing everything in the builds.

The builds have been mostly for developers. I think that the actual operating system will have a bit more (not too much, but perhaps a new UI + a few extras).

As for the bugs in the current version, they are likely either fixed in Apple's internal version(s), or are easy enough for Apple to fix that they haven't bothered yet.

 

[aLoC]

Mac is supposed to be about simplicity. The Networking pref pane in Leopard would give the most ardent geek a headache.

And refactoring is good, but so are small and frequent releases. They have tried to change too much under the hood at once, and as a result Leopard may be an unstable OS for quite some time.

 

[peharri]

This casts doubt upon recent reports that Leopard will be ready for a late-March release.

In order for doubts to have been cast, those reports needed to be taken seriously in the first place.

There are some seriously over-optimistic people here. We've known that Leopard isn't going to come out until June at the earliest since MWSF. This is a heralded to be a major product, hell the length of time the thing has been in development is second only to Mac OS X 10.0, and the idea Steve isn't going to demo it to the Mac community before release is simply ridiculous.

The next event the Mac community will be at is WWDC. That's when we'll see the Leopard demo, and it'll be after the demo, maybe in minutes, maybe in weeks, we'll see Leopard discs in people's hands.

It's not rocket science, and I'm baffled by the insistence many have that it will be earlier than that.

 

[Project]

Illuminous makes another appearance, this time on the iTunes site. Check the download iTunes button

 

[nawade]

Release Date and Intel CPU Architecture

Hi, let me say I am a PC user for 25 years now and I am ready to move to a Mac... Please hold the applause and cheers (Thank You)

Mac has now wed itself to Intel with the CPU being the heart of any operating system. Mac has now got to rely heavily on the "Architecture" of the CPU's being released to be able to support any software upgrades planned... so expect to see release dates of the OS and upgrades tied to release dates of new chips like the Intel Penryn. Google the Penryn and see facts on its die size, power consumption and architecture features their adding to support new features for an OS.

Penryn might throw Leopard back to late Fall, early Winter at it's earliest release date.

I am sure Mac and Intel are sharing information about upcoming chips and Leopard OS to make it the best and most it will be, unlike Windows Vista which is a sham and a shame to even be called an upgraded operating system.

On a side not of "Marketing Sense" it is NOW time to stick the knife in Microsoft with the release of Leopard and reap the financial rewards of millions of converts to Mac from disgruntled PC users.

P.S. There has been a working (test) pre-release out of Penryn and the MAC has run on it already.

 

[matticus008]

Mac has now wed itself to Intel with the CPU being the heart of any operating system. Mac has now got to rely heavily on the "Architecture" of the CPU's being released to be able to support any software upgrades planned... so expect to see release dates of the OS and upgrades tied to release dates of new chips like the Intel Penryn.

Penryn offers nothing that can't be added to an existing OS or that would require a delay to an upcoming one. Also note that the CPU has absolutely no impact on software releases except where it becomes necessary (x64 versions)--Windows, Solaris, and Linux release schedules have nothing in particular to do with the release dates of CPUs. This is because hardware changes within the CPU frequently do not require any code changes, as the hardware-software interface remains intact and unaltered--faster clock speeds, lower TDP, increased power efficiency, and internal reorganization don't have any impact on OS design.

In particular, with a modular kernel design, there is absolutely no dependence on any CPU features--that's the whole point of a platform agnostic philosophy and the only reason why Tiger was released to Intel so easily. Tweaks and optimizations for hardware components can be installed in the form of kernel updates, which are regularly released at point updates.

 

[shikimo]

Hi, let me say I am a PC user for 25 years now and I am ready to move to a Mac... Please hold the applause and cheers (Thank You)

Mac has now wed itself to Intel with the CPU being the heart of any operating system. Mac has now got to rely heavily on the "Architecture" of the CPU's being released to be able to support any software upgrades planned... so expect to see release dates of the OS and upgrades tied to release dates of new chips like the Intel Penryn. Google the Penryn and see facts on its die size, power consumption and architecture features their adding to support new features for an OS.

Penryn might throw Leopard back to late Fall, early Winter at it's earliest release date.

I am sure Mac and Intel are sharing information about upcoming chips and Leopard OS to make it the best and most it will be, unlike Windows Vista which is a sham and a shame to even be called an upgraded operating system.

On a side not of "Marketing Sense" it is NOW time to stick the knife in Microsoft with the release of Leopard and reap the financial rewards of millions of converts to Mac from disgruntled PC users.

P.S. There has been a working (test) pre-release out of Penryn and the MAC has run on it already.

Yeah, matticus is right: while your general observation that the connection between Intel and Apple affects the way we try and predict some Apple product cycles in ways that didn't exist in the PowerPC days--a quick keyword search for "Santa Rosa" on this forum will return piles of examples--there is zilcho dependency of Leopard on Penryn or any other CPU as-yet-unreleased technology. Barring some weird disaster, Leopard will still be out at WWDC or before, the specific date still being anybody's guess IMO.

BTW do you have a reference for an article about the Penryn test?

In any case, when you do go for it I hope your new Mac works out for you.

 

[jauhari]

The REAL WOW Starting on April