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Leopard Build 9A377a Details Emerging
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We'll I've been lurking this forum for a while now reading up on the rumors and such and I don't think it has helped much. I guess its the very nature of rumors, but I've been getting very disappointed with the lack of reliable information about the release of 10.5. I don't believe this is this site's fault, I think it is a side-effect of the very little information about 10.5 Apple has released since the original presentation in August of last year.
I use Windows at home and Linux at work and I've been anxiously waiting (and saving) for 10.5 to come out and "do the switch" ever since the announcement in August.
I've been tempted to buy my MacBook (high-end white) already many times without waiting for 10.5 to come out, but I eventually decide to wait. I want my new Mac to come factory-installed with 10.5 along with 10.5 restore disks, and iLife '07, etc.
Problem is, I heard the MacBooks will take about a month after Leopard's release to begin shipping with the new OS
And as much I would love to have my new Mac soon, I believe Apple will take until the end of spring to release Leopard. If that's June, that means that the earliest I can do the switch would be mid to end of July of 2007. Oh well, I guess I should stop reading so many rumors and focus on other things until July comes around...
Also, I just went to an Apple store and asked the first salesperson that came to see if I needed any help: "Yes, I'm looking for the 12" sub-notebook MacBook Pro" The guy just smiled and said, well that's a rumor so I can't say anything about it.
I use Windows at home and Linux at work and I've been anxiously waiting (and saving) for 10.5 to come out and "do the switch" ever since the announcement in August.
I've been tempted to buy my MacBook (high-end white) already many times without waiting for 10.5 to come out, but I eventually decide to wait. I want my new Mac to come factory-installed with 10.5 along with 10.5 restore disks, and iLife '07, etc.
Problem is, I heard the MacBooks will take about a month after Leopard's release to begin shipping with the new OS
And as much I would love to have my new Mac soon, I believe Apple will take until the end of spring to release Leopard. If that's June, that means that the earliest I can do the switch would be mid to end of July of 2007. Oh well, I guess I should stop reading so many rumors and focus on other things until July comes around...Also, I just went to an Apple store and asked the first salesperson that came to see if I needed any help: "Yes, I'm looking for the 12" sub-notebook MacBook Pro" The guy just smiled and said, well that's a rumor so I can't say anything about it.
Woz
If this is a genuine Twitter post from Woz, this may perhaps foreshadow and confirm some truly "insanely great" features, especially, coming from someone who has been rarely jazzed about anything which has either surfaced or been announced during the past twenty years.
If this is a genuine Twitter post from Woz, this may perhaps foreshadow and confirm some truly "insanely great" features, especially, coming from someone who has been rarely jazzed about anything which has either surfaced or been announced during the past twenty years.
Anticipation
Very likely, it will be worth the wait. I don't believe what you heard about it taking a month for new MacBooks to ship with Leopard installed. Historically, new OS's have been pre-installed in new machines shipping a few days after a software release. If not, Apple offered free upgrade certificates for any machine purchased after the release. As soon as Leopard is released, your new machine will qualify.
We'll I've been lurking this forum for a while now reading up on the rumors and such and I don't think it has helped much. I guess its the very nature of rumors, but I've been getting very disappointed with the lack of reliable information about the release of 10.5. I don't believe this is this site's fault, I think it is a side-effect of the very little information about 10.5 Apple has released since the original presentation in August of last year.
I use Windows at home and Linux at work and I've been anxiously waiting (and saving) for 10.5 to come out and "do the switch" ever since the announcement in August.
I've been tempted to buy my MacBook (high-end white) already many times without waiting for 10.5 to come out, but I eventually decide to wait. I want my new Mac to come factory-installed with 10.5 along with 10.5 restore disks, and iLife '07, etc.
Problem is, I heard the MacBooks will take about a month after Leopard's release to begin shipping with the new OS
Also, I just went to an Apple store and asked the first salesperson that came to see if I needed any help: "Yes, I'm looking for the 12" sub-notebook MacBook Pro" The guy just smiled and said, well that's a rumor so I can't say anything about it.
Very likely, it will be worth the wait. I don't believe what you heard about it taking a month for new MacBooks to ship with Leopard installed. Historically, new OS's have been pre-installed in new machines shipping a few days after a software release. If not, Apple offered free upgrade certificates for any machine purchased after the release. As soon as Leopard is released, your new machine will qualify.
same here
also waiting until santa rosa come out before getting my first mac, so my wait might be longer. I just have a feeling new designs all-around is coming soon. on the new laptops I expect multi-touch trackpad replacement.
We'll I've been lurking this forum for a while now reading up on the rumors and such and I don't think it has helped much. I guess its the very nature of rumors, but I've been getting very disappointed with the lack of reliable information about the release of 10.5. I don't believe this is this site's fault, I think it is a side-effect of the very little information about 10.5 Apple has released since the original presentation in August of last year.
I use Windows at home and Linux at work and I've been anxiously waiting (and saving) for 10.5 to come out and "do the switch" ever since the announcement in August.
I've been tempted to buy my MacBook (high-end white) already many times without waiting for 10.5 to come out, but I eventually decide to wait. I want my new Mac to come factory-installed with 10.5 along with 10.5 restore disks, and iLife '07, etc.
Problem is, I heard the MacBooks will take about a month after Leopard's release to begin shipping with the new OS
Also, I just went to an Apple store and asked the first salesperson that came to see if I needed any help: "Yes, I'm looking for the 12" sub-notebook MacBook Pro" The guy just smiled and said, well that's a rumor so I can't say anything about it.
also waiting until santa rosa come out before getting my first mac, so my wait might be longer. I just have a feeling new designs all-around is coming soon. on the new laptops I expect multi-touch trackpad replacement.
Hmmm... Multi-touch trackpads would be totally awesome! Imagine zooming in on images or google maps just like you do on the iPhone, but for any application! Also, touch gestures would be super cool (save, close, print, etc)
First post here, from a three-time Mac owner currently Mac-less (sold my iBook before the Core 2 Macbooks came out, and figured I might as well wait for the next iteration -- 45nm CPUs and flash caches!)
If they do replace Finder, I hope it has improved reliability for accessing network shares (whether SMB or WebDAV -- I've never tried connecting to an AFP share, but I trust for that at least Finder is stable).
Yes, Photoshop CS3 should be expected to run well on Leopard.
But remember, many other developers have copies of Leopard so they can also build their applications for it. This doesn't necessarily mean that CS3 will coincide with Leopard's release...though we all wish it were likely!
-=|Mgkwho
...and that's why I said in close proximity. Which could mean, CS3, mid April, Leopard, early May.
I didn't even delve into its performance. I use Windows XP and Mac OS X about 50-50 at work and I'd be lying through my teeth if I didn't say that Windows Explorer really kicks the Finder's *ss. Every aspect of OS X is great except that. It's a glaring gaffe in an otherwise beautifully designed operating system. Even if we had no hints one way or the other, I think assuming that an improved Finder is on its way would be perfectly reasonable. The Finder is truly wretched in terms of performance when set side-by-side with Windows Explorer. Believe me, I hate typing that. I wish it wasn't true.
It would be very hard for me to believe that someone at Apple hasn't decided it's time to address the Finder's shortcomings. At one time, it was merely annoying. By now, it's bordering on unacceptable.
Macs are not more expensive than equivalent PCs. That doesn't mean that there aren't PCs that are both cheaper and more expensive than Macs--there are only a handful of Apple models.
When you go to the store, do you laugh because people pay $15 for Bertolli when you've walked away with some nice $4 Wesson? Yes, they're both oils, but they're not equivalent and they're not good for the same uses. If you're comparing olives to olives in this case, there might be some store brand for $13.50 and some Berio for $16. The Bertolli's not overpriced.
Yeah, we know. I was making fun of your indignation and outrage over triviality.
When has a Mac ever been updated just because of a video card? (Hint: never). There's no rush for more cores--if you actually need 8 cores right now, then feel free to buy some OEM Xeons from Newegg and drop them in. Apple isn't going to jump through your hoop every month because of a minor change in hardware availability. They're not a standard PC manufacturer. It's not unusual for there to be 9 month update intervals.
No. Just no. There's an almost immeasurably huge difference between those scenarios. You can't launch a product for a market that huge without your product actually working on any of it--it's illegal, not to mention abysmally stupid.It wouldn't be the first time now would it? WWDC will release the beta and give hardware manufacturers some time.
Spring
Spring..........on the Northern, or Southern hemisphere?
Well Mr. Dee, I think we almost all can agree that Leopard will be released in Spring!!
Yay Woz!
-=|Mgkwho
Spring..........on the Northern, or Southern hemisphere?
Northern. I don't understand why this is an issue. It's as ridiculous as the 10.4.10 "debate."
Leopard is scheduled for an (American/northern hemisphere) Spring release. That means, quite literally, that the release date will fall between March 21st and June 20th. None of this iffy "I think Spring has started" nonsense--seasons have defined dates. Companies don't make date predictions based on what the weather is like outside. They use a calendar.
Except that, as you said below, the Finder issues have been there for a long time and they still have not fixed it. I'm going to still be disappointed if they don't fix it this time, but I'll actually be quite excited if they do -- setting the bar low there.
Thankfully, there's now MacFUSE!
I think having a working finder is almost essential for Windows switchers, because they will have become so accustomed to simple navigation (e.g. the "up" folder hierarchy option, backspace moves back, etc.) that not having it will be so frustrating they will give up.
As a recent, official switcher myself, if I had lower tolerance of finder I would probably not be using os x. But because I've grown up with both, I know what eachother offers, and am comfortable enough to navigate around both.
But seriously, freaking fix finder already!!!!!!!!!!
-=|Mgkwho
As a recent, official switcher myself, if I had lower tolerance of finder I would probably not be using os x. But because I've grown up with both, I know what eachother offers, and am comfortable enough to navigate around both.
But seriously, freaking fix finder already!!!!!!!!!!
-=|Mgkwho
Vernal Equinox
Well, you know, with global warming and all, the definition of when Spring actually occurs might have to be re-established.....
Well, you know, with global warming and all, the definition of when Spring actually occurs might have to be re-established.....
The definition of seasons is based on the orbital position of the planet and the timing of the equinoxes, not on any terrestrial weather conditions. Global warming wouldn't change anything. California enjoys spring-like weather from January onward--even if the whole planet was like that, Spring would still be March 20/21 to June 20/21.
Al Gore
This we know, but on a serious note; since Al Gore has become a board member, he's been calling several extra board meetings, regarding seasons, climate, etc., and these heated debates, alone, may have indirectly contributed to the ultimate delay of the release of the Gold Master.......
This we know, but on a serious note; since Al Gore has become a board member, he's been calling several extra board meetings, regarding seasons, climate, etc., and these heated debates, alone, may have indirectly contributed to the ultimate delay of the release of the Gold Master.......
Testify brother! Testify! they don't call it FTFF for nothing. That being said I fear that all Apple is going to do is slap on Spotlight integration to this lumbering monstrosity, and call it revolutionary, new, and improved.
Never mind the fact that I had several people smiling at me, amused last night as I was demoing Tiger and the finder froze on me for 3 minutes because I forgot to disconnect the share from my home network before leaving home with my MBP. Calling finder a joke is being kind.