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The obligatory real/fake poll:

  • Real

    Votes: 195 46.7%
  • Fake

    Votes: 223 53.3%

  • Total voters
    418
CoMpX said:
Isn't that just the transition as the tab bar comes down? He/she clicks new tap and it animates as the new tab comes down. No?

Yes, but it isn't even an even transition. Doesn't look right to me.
 
Rule said:
Am I the only one who moves files in one window just by dragging them to the HDD icon and further down the directory structure?

Well, you could do that. But it could be quite tedious. First you go to the folder where you want to copy from. The you "drill down" to the folder where you want to to copy to. Then yo go back to some other folder where yuo want to copy from, and then drill back to the destination. Tabs would make that whole lot easier. Just open the source, and drag the files to the tab. Alternatively, you could use two windows and drag between them.

I don't see the advantage of tabbed finder. It's not like Apple to follow what everybody else does.

Is this a case of not doing something for the sole reason that someone else did it first? By that logic OS X would not have fast user switching or tabbed web-broswer.

If someone comes up with a useful feature that genuinely helps users, what's the harm in implementing it? Yes, there might be people who do not use the feature, but there would be others that do. Not everyone uses the video-chatting in OS X for example, but it made sense to implement that feature.
 
Rule said:
If that's true, I'm switching back to windows. The doc is one of the advantages OS X has over Windows.

Well, Dock isn't THAT great in the end. But anyway, the menu in that screenshot looks like Butler, so I would vote "fake" on that one.
 
refulgentis said:
As more of a general comment, I'll be really disappointed if this is what 10.5 ends up looking like. It seems like more of a step-back in the eye candy department, especially when compared to Vista. I know that its still more functional and useful than Vista, but I was really hoping for built-in virtualization and transparency, and based on Looprumors, Apple Insider, and this video, it looks like none of this will happen. All of these features would be necessary for Mac to really become a legitimate alternative to Windows in the eye of the public.

I recently switched, with a 17" MBP, and I couldn't be happier. Almost everyone I talk to who asks me about buying a new PC, I recommend a Mac to, and if 10.5 supported virtualization and had transparency, Vista and the Windows platform would become basically irrelavent and I think you would see people switching in droves.

Hopefully this is fake, or at least just intended to show off tabs in finder. If one of the top 3 advancements in 10.5 come September is still just tabs in the finder window, I'm not sure OS X can still keep claiming to be far in advance of Vista once it comes out.

What's the deal with transparency?

No, seriously. It is confusing as hell if you take a look at some of the beta screenshots, it is virtually impossible to tell which is the active window when your screen is stacked full of them.
 
Rule said:
If that's true, I'm switching back to windows. The doc is one of the advantages OS X has over Windows.

Do you honestly think Apple would drop the Dock just like that? Especially in favor for a basic menu? No, it's not happening. That's like going to the Windows Start Menu.
 
curmi said:
...I know some people love tabs. They love the in Safari. They love them in iChat. I personally love them in Safari (though think Omni did it better in Omniweb), and dislike them in iChat. Don't particularly see a need for them in the Finder - but that's just me....

Adium has a fantastic implementation of tabs. I love the drag out and drag in feature. I would love to see that in safari, but I think it would require too much processor guts to render web pages that you are dragging out and adding to windows. If that isn't a issue than I say full steam ahead. tabs are cool. Especially when it comes to chatting. I hate having 20 chat windows open at once. With adium I only have one window. I think I'll continue to use adium, even if ichat gets tabs. It's just too awesome and customizable not to. When I get my fancy merom macbook pro I'll feel compelled to make use of vid conferencing, so I'll be using ichat for that. It might suck me back in.
 
iGary said:
I can't believe so many people think this is fake. :confused:

exactly.. I'm voting true as well.

Low video quality ? This movie was not taken by the developer who owns the Mac, rather by his buddy / son / whoever who knows the guy and, just as the other bloke is out, whips out his mobile phone and does a quick screenie.

Just my guess.

We'll know soon...
 
Human Interface Guidelines and It always starts out samey

I have to raise the old "tabs break Apple's Human Interface Guidelines" debate. Unless Apple intends to update and publish a new edition of these or like Safari, disable them in Preferences by default. Tabs are a nice idea, but somehow it feels cheap.

A lot of people are discounting this because it looks too samey to Tiger. I have been a pre-release tester for Apple since the mid-90s right up to today. It has to be said that literally every early pre-release of Mac OS and Mac OS X looked pretty much the same as its predecessor because the engineers/designers hold back (or simply haven't finalised) the appearance. It can take several months into the development cycle (or even in the last few builds) before you see the final look and feel stuff. Quite often you see things in pre-releases that are pulled before the final release too. One good old fashioned example is the Appearance Themes which were intended to ship in Mac OS 8.5 but were pulled at the last minute. So the fact that this shoddy video shows a very Tiger-like feel, isn't evidence that it is a fake.

As a pre-release testing cycle has not begun in any shape or form, and won't until after Steve Jobs' keynote in August, any leaks could only come from the actual engineering team working on Leopard. It's standard practice at this stage for no copies to leave the hands/department because as we all can imagine; Steve would create hellfire. Would engineering risk leaking this information? I'm not convinced. But what I will say, is that I like to theorise on marketing conspiracies across any industry. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that this could be a carefully staged leak to begin the hype for Leopard and WWDC. Oops, someone stole my sex tape... and by the way I have a new movie and album out next week.
 
The video is obviously REAL, since it's almost impossible for someone to fake a video of tabbed browsing on the Finder...

However, if a tabbed Finder is all we're gonna see, I surely won't pay 120 bucks for it...
 
BRLawyer said:
The video is obviously REAL, since it's almost impossible for someone to fake a video of tabbed browsing on the Finder...

However, if a tabbed Finder is all we're gonna see, I surely won't pay 120 bucks for it...

The video looks real to me. It doesn't show anything dramatic anyway so no reason why somebody should fake it.

The FINDER needs a tree diagram on the side. Remember windows explorer? That was the most practical way to manage my files back in the day when i was using windows 2000.

There is nothing wrong with copying from Microsoft Mr Jobs. WTH they do it all the time... :p
 
Just my input. When he right clicks on 'Macintosh HD' it says copy 'leopard' in the little menu, but when I click on my hard drive (which I renamed to iBook G4) it says iBook G4. I don't know how important this is. I'm gonna have to say fake.

EDIT Boy did I get that wrong, he doesn't right click on Macintosh HD he clicks on the Home icon 'leopard' :|
 
I hope it's fake. Shouldn't the Finder be controlled by brain waves or something?
 
Rule said:
If that's true, I'm switching back to windows. The doc is one of the advantages OS X has over Windows.
Seriously. That Apple Menu is way tooo long.

And if you're going to make a fake, at least make it a little bit more interesting! I mean, gosh.
(btw, I voted real by mistake)
 
Okay, so I'm a geek and I've been having fun watching the first mirror that we posted (which is my personal website) swell and saturate with the demand placed upon it. For those that are interested, here are some preliminary statistics that I have gathered from having hosted that file pretty much on my own until recently, when the other mirrors were posted.

Total bandwidth for leopard.mov: 13.414 GBytes
Crude Breakdown by Country (other than US):
Deutschland/Germany: 7%, 1.1 GBytes served
UK, Italy, France: 3%, 407-496 MBytes served
User Agents (approximate numbers):
26.5% using Safari
13.7% using Firefox or Mozilla
12.77% using Quicktime (opening URL in quicktime I guess)
2% using Internet Explorer (good job folks)​
Other sites apprarently linking:
Kodawarison, macuarium, mac4ever, macnn forums, maku.or.tv, 99mac.se, italiamac.it, tuaw, mactecnews​
 
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