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Leopard In Release Candidate Cycle, 9A559 Gallery

Still no anti-phishing?

And by the way, there aren't any screenshots of any anti-phishing features in that gallery. *Sigh*

Apple announced that Leopard would have anti-phishing capabilities back in August 2006, and in October 2006 Leopard builds Safari had Google-based anti-phishing, but I haven't seen or heard anything about it since then (nearly a year ago).

Please, please... someone clear this up for me! Will Leopard's Safari and Mail have any anti-phishing features?

(And yes, I know about OpenDNS, and I even use and recommend it... but the point is, Apple really should have *something* built into the OS, especially with all its boasts of having a safer online experience.)
 
Hombre said:
I really hope they change the remaining aqua controls before release, as they really don't fit in there anymore. See how they don't look very consistent next to the new darker blue selection color. While some of you have expressed that you like the new interface, I think this is one fugly window:

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And don't forget the nasty purple question mark, which always looked like an anachronism. This is three interface generations in one window. :(
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RRK said:
He saying the colors of the aqua elements clash with the other two blue elements in the window. I agree and I think all the remaining aqua elements will certainly be updated before the OS ships. Hopefully to the ones on the website as has been discussed.
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I absolutely agree with you guys. It would be very disappointing if leopard ships the way it is now with the aqua still there. The aqua elements just don't fit with the rest of the UI. I'm talking buttons, drop-downs, scrollbars. It really just looks very odd. I really don't think it would be very hard to do to change the scrollbars and buttons. I mean it's already been tested in iTunes 7.
 
MrCrowbar said:
Actually, Apple doesn't want you to change your scaling settings with a slider so you can fit more (or less) windows on your screen. Its sole purpose is to make things look sharper when high resolution displays are out. A square inch will have 10,000 pixels on a normal 100 ppi display, and 40,000 pixels on a 200 ppi display. On both displays, it will be an inch high and an inch wide. In Tiger, you would have to run your 200 ppi display at half its resolution to get the proportions right, but you would have groups of 4 pixels with the same color, which is wasteful and wouldn't give you any benefit upon using a regular 100 ppi screen.

Although I would love to be able to rezize my desktop so I could fit more junk into the menu bar, that's not gonna happen, at least without dev tools.
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Totally agree. The closest you'll get to a "user configurable" setting will be the Quartz Debug tool, where developers can fiddle with the PPI to make sure their own programs work correctly at different sizes without requiring 6 different Macs.

What will change is walking into an Apple store and seeing the 20", 24" and 30" screens on display, and across all those displays everything on Mac OS is of identical size.

Apple will then no longer have to explain how you can sometimes fit more windows onto some 21" screens vs some 24" screen, and how resolutions and dot-pitch and all that stuff works. When you get a monitor that's 4" bigger... you get 4" of extra desktop space. It's the Apple way!
 
ibanana said:
Mac OS X 10.0 (Cheetah)
Mac OS X 10.1 (Puma)
Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar)
Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)
Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Mac OS X 10.6 ( ? )
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well...there's still Lion ...but that's the king of the jungle so it should be the last iteration of the run.

Cheetah, Lynx, Cougar, Bobcat, Smilodon, Caracal

of course I posted BEFORE reading all the posts.... Smilodon still holds up. I could even see Serengeti being used somewhere...

But I would crap my pants if they used:

Schrödinger
 
Goodbye Gel Bars

I don't know if this irks anyone else besides me but I was hoping that Apple would ditch the blue gel scroll bars in Leopard. Everything else in the UI looks great but with the iLife suite and iTunes using the new scroll bars it just doesn't look good keeping the blue scroll bars for web browsing and the Finder. :(
 
HLdan said:
I don't know if this irks anyone else besides me but I was hoping that Apple would ditch the blue gel scroll bars in Leopard.
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If you don't know then you clearly haven't read much of the thread, which is full of people complaining about them. IMO, they should use the grey bar here :)
 
psychofreak said:
If you don't know then you clearly haven't read much of the thread, which is full of people complaining about them. IMO, they should use the grey bar here :)
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Yeah, ya know, I didn't read every page until now. Sorry I didn't it had been brought up multiple times. Well I hope Apple recognizes how ugly the scroll bars are.
 
Don't forget that it still hasn't been released.

If Mac has the theming system anything like Window's, you have a file that includes all of the pictures (like the scroll bar, ect). All they have to do is change the picture files to what they want. If it's implimented in such a way, it won't compromise the stability of the OS, so I wouldn't be suprised if it's something that is changed in Pre-GM build of Leopard and made its way into the GM. They might do this as something that's unexpected to get that "WOW" factor.

I remember when I was using the RC1 version of Windows Vista, the sounds were the same ones from XP for the most part, but they were all pretty much replaced in the final version of Vista.

Hopefully this gives you guys some glimmer of hope.

Also, what's this I keep seeing about the MacBook Pro refresh?
 
Apple added two new desktop pictures that haven't been posted before. I really like both of them (I love the version of "Stones" in Tiger).
 

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One thing Vista has that I wish Leopard would integrate is a cool fade-out effect when you close a window. On Vista, when you click on the close button, the window disintegrates into the background with an "I'm outta here" sort of attitude. It's pretty cool...for Windows.
 
This build is fast and stable. One thing I found missing is the ability to back up now in Time Machine.

In previous versions, there was a button to do this. But in this build, its backs up automatically every hour.

It would be nice if they gave you an option like before.


I vote for Cougar.
 
I don't like the aqua scroll bars and progress bars either. The old Aqua and the new Aqua do not match well enough.. They're just different enough to look out of place.

Also, about colors... What's with the dull blue folders, then the bright blue scroll bars, then the darker blue buttons, then the even darker blue/purple menu selections? The colors are not unified. I could see if they simply used different shades of the same blue, but these different blues are different hues all together! Man, I sure hope Leopard is themable so someone can port Max's Aqua Extreme (because that's the way Apple should have made the graphics to match the rest of OS X. I'm done here... I wanna get Leopard but it doesn't look visually like it is ready. Why is the iPhone and iPod touch interface so beautiful and consistent, while OS X lags behind. Ugh. Who's with me?
 
TheSpaz said:
Why is the iPhone and iPod touch interface so beautiful and consistent, while OS X lags behind. Ugh. Who's with me?
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Seriously, I expect big things of the company who made the iPhone (and the gorgeous new Apple TV & iPod interfaces!)

I believe, I really strongly believe that the UI changes are a "secret feature" that will unveil itself when you first boot up Leopard (or someone leaks a gold master screenshot).

Have faith :apple:-fans.
 
Ben Logan said:
One thing Vista has that I wish Leopard would integrate is a cool fade-out effect when you close a window. On Vista, when you click on the close button, the window disintegrates into the background with an "I'm outta here" sort of attitude. It's pretty cool...for Windows.
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Me too. I love the way windows in Windows Vista "snap" open then "fade" shut. Its a really cool effect.

I was expecting more from Leopard considering all the secrecy over those "top secret" features. I keep feeling I "want" more from Leopard.
 
thefunkymunky said:
Me too. I love the way windows in Windows Vista "snap" open then "fade" shut. Its a really cool effect.

I was expecting more from Leopard considering all the secrecy over those "top secret" features. I keep feeling I "want" more from Leopard.
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I hate those effects in vista, seems to make the whole computing experience a lot slower.
 
thefunkymunky said:
I was expecting more from Leopard considering all the secrecy over those "top secret" features. I keep feeling I "want" more from Leopard.
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You and me both, but I believe that the community is suffering from the delays in Leopard and the expectation that comes with it. The phrase "absence makes the heart grow fonder" springs to mind, only in this case it makes us doubly impatient to get our hands on some critical new Apple software. We've had ample time to compare Vista to Tiger and review the shortcomings of both and say what we'd like to see in an OS and after this amount of time it's only natural to start being disappointed with the little we have seen from Leopard, "secret" or not.
 
pknz said:
Do they add any function?
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Well. I guess not really. But visually they are more appealing. The 3D Dock in Leopard doesn't add any function if you think about it. All it does is reflect the icons (which is doesn't do correctly btw). The Stacks feature could be applied to the 2D Dock in Tiger for example.

The 3D Dock reminds me of Sun's Project Looking Glass. Maybe Apple nicked their idea. It wouldn't be the first time. YouTube.

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Some of the stuff people are talking about re: Vista are pretty nice effects - but I still think there is a bit of a paradox between Vista and OSX.

Sure, Apple have had an inconsistent look and feel across windows and apps, but the changes we've seen in iTunes - are advancements on the aqua theme - like all good design they push the original creation forward, simplify it, make it more elegant etc etc... With the aqua theme being part and parcel of X. Take the 'brushed metal theme' - that has slowly become smoother, more natural, a better design evolution. To that end, is it really right to make comparisons to Vista? Vista, in terms of pushing things forward, fails. It failed in it's major aim at replacing XP - it's all gloss, an OS that Microsoft are essentially trying to hide via decoration. Where are the real-world tools that will make things different in an OS touted as being utterly different?...

I've written up some of my thoughts on this post - that talks about expectations of Leopard...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/360747/
 
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