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Time to replace the aqua scroll bars with those cool plastic greyish looking ones on the apple website.

Holy sheit, I hope not! I love Aqua and I have strong reservations about Apple's new found love for depressing muted colours and dark shades of grey instead of the bright pastels of past. If Apple completes the change to muted colours I might just stick with tiger since there isn't really anything attracting me to Leopard to begin with. If I wanted to be depressed by grey colours I would just look outside the window(s).

In fact the only thing that might get me to change to Leopard in that case would be if Apple has addressed certain stability and performance issues that bother me with Tiger.
 
I sincerely hope not 559 is the final candidate in the way it's seeded to ADC members. Because all kind of annoying freezes and iCal and Safari keeps crashing quite a lot. Useless.
 
Thank you! I thought I was the only one... they're awful

Lots of love on pretty much everything else though :)

Yeah, that's the thing, everything else looks great, well minus the aqua scroll bars. And I haven't heard that many people complaining about the folders, kinda gets me worried.

They look beautiful, functional and they are easy on the eyes.

Looking at the folders alone you might have a point. But if you look at the folders in context with ANYTHING else in Leopard they don't fit. They look completely out of place. Look in the sys prefs or in the dock or in the installer dmg. They look like they are from another theme.

I don't know whether anyone at Apple is paying attention they must just look at the folders without the OS or be completely blind.
 
Another example of Leopards questionable beauty:

Another example of Leopards questionable beauty:

system-preferences10.jpg



Three shades of blue in one window? :barf:
 
Resolution Independence

Actually, Apple doesn't want you to change your scaling settings with a slider so you can fit more (or less) windows on your screen. Its sole purpose is to make things look sharper when high resolution displays are out. A square inch will have 10,000 pixels on a normal 100 ppi display, and 40,000 pixels on a 200 ppi display. On both displays, it will be an inch high and an inch wide. In Tiger, you would have to run your 200 ppi display at half its resolution to get the proportions right, but you would have groups of 4 pixels with the same color, which is wasteful and wouldn't give you any benefit upon using a regular 100 ppi screen.

Although I would love to be able to rezize my desktop so I could fit more junk into the menu bar, that's not gonna happen, at least without dev tools.
 
Another example of Leopards questionable beauty:

system-preferences10.jpg



Three shades of blue in one window? :barf:

Its already like that in Tiger.

The blue in the Source pane changes color when it has been selected, but is not the foremost windows.

This is a good thing believe it or not. I could do without the watery Aqua though.

Here is what it looks like when the Source is the foremost selection

voiceover-utility03.jpg



I like these preference panes. First saw them in the new Airport Utility
 
I like these preference panes. First saw them in the new Airport Utility

The source panes are not the problem, but the fugly aqua elements that absolutely don't fit in this context anymore, like it can be seen in this screenshot as well. This looks so ugly.

voiceover-utility07.jpg
 
The source panes are not the problem, but the fugly aqua elements, like it can be seen in this screenshot as well. This looks so ugly.



You said 3 shades of blue was the problem, which it isnt. Clearly, the problem is the aqua widgets still in there that look so out of place at the moment.

I think the actual window itself and layout is great. Very clear and concise. Id kill for those black/metal widgets on the Apple website in place of the Aqua though
 
You said 3 shades of blue was the problem, which it isnt.

It really only gets a problem with the third shade of blue -> Aqua which is too much here. Just two of them would be alright. So, in a way, having three shades is the problem indeed. ;-)
 
Mac OS X 10.0 (Cheetah)
Mac OS X 10.1 (Puma)
Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar)
Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)
Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)

If you're talking wild cats...

Mac OS X 10.6 (Lion)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Lynx)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Cougar)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Ocelot)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Serval)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Bornean Bay Cat)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Jaguarundi)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Caracal)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Margay)
Mac OS X 10.6 (Oncilla)

But, really, who cares...?

They ought to just go trippy on us and call it:

MAC OS X 10.6 (Cheshire)
 
You said 3 shades of blue was the problem, which it isnt. Clearly, the problem is the aqua widgets still in there that look so out of place at the moment.

I think the actual window itself and layout is great. Very clear and concise. Id kill for those black/metal widgets on the Apple website in place of the Aqua though

He saying the colors of the aqua elements clash with the other two blue elements in the window. I agree and I think all the remaining aqua elements will certainly be updated before the OS ships. Hopefully to the ones on the website as has been discussed.
 
I agree that Aqua elements could use an overall makeover, but unfortunately it looks like we're not getting that (or resolution independence that's finished) until 10.6.

Apple seems to update the UI for Mac OS X in little dribs and drabs, piecemeal over multiple releases.

I find it likely that they planned on doing a more comprehensive overhaul (utilizing CoreAnimation), but ran out of time due to delays from the Intel transition and OS X Mobile development. Or possibly they just needed more time to think it over - you don't make a big change to the face of the Mac without considering it over very carefully. Or possibly the more CA-dependent UI was just too slow for '07.
 
New Folder Icons

Please someone at Apple get off the drugs and change the folder icons... I don't think I have ever seen anything more hideous.

I wasn't going to be quite that harsh about it, but I'm not particularly impressed by the new folder icons, either...

...But then again, it also took me a while to get used to the Mac OS 8 folder icons and the Mac OS X Public Beta folder icons, too, and eventually I became totally accustomed to them.

What does everyone else think of the new folder icons?
 
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