There were several subtle changes to the UI between 10.1 and 10.2. But the BIG story with Jaguar was Quartz Extrememade OS X a lot faster of any system with an AGP graphics card.
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There were several subtle changes to the UI between 10.1 and 10.2. But the BIG story with Jaguar was Quartz Extrememade OS X a lot faster of any system with an AGP graphics card.
True, but the app is NOT in the edge of the screen. While you could use the menubar by simply throwing the cursor upwards, you can't do the same with the app itself. If you want to click some items inside the app, as well as items in the menubar, you could have a long distance between the two.
I do have that checkbox checked. And I still get an iChat-window every time I log in. So there seems to be something wrong.
I just get that nasty "oh my god, leave me alone, I don't need a help with everything!" kind of feeling that normally only Windows can deliver. I would hate to see Apple do the same. I think a Time Machine preference pane would be excellent.
You should choose when a device is a Time Machine device - not have it auto pop up to ask you. Very annoying. You should go to prefs and make it so - not have the OS expect it! Plug and play baby.
I'd imagine it'd only ask the first time you connect a new volume, and then not ask afterwards. This makes sense because Time Machine (as well as the concept of backing up) is new and a bit foreign to many many users. Not really a big deal if you ask me. Say no, and it won't bug you again.
Which is why I continue to say, "why is anyone suprised about USB booting for OS X?" I've used USB booting on my PC for years for all kinds of OSes and OS X is by far the most friendly in this regard, so USB booting just seems like a natural progression.
It's not a big deal at all. A big deal is the number of things you have to say "no" to in Windows before you can finally have some peace and quiet.
That being said I like the way its integrated into the menubar because IMHO its a waste to have the same menus spread across multiple windows. There are pros and cons to both ways of doing it. I haven't decided which I like the best. There must be a happy medium between the two designs but what?
Maybe to have the menu bar in between the top of the window, and the top of the screen?
As far as UI changes, I think some people want cosmetic changes, and others want overall GUI changes. I don't think either is going to happen.
A) Most people are fine with Aqua, heck I still like brushed metal. Tweaks, yes, but total revamp? Probably not (although I still don't know what that Illuminous thing is about, maybe OSX 11.) It's not exciting, but it works and I am very comfortable with OSX, which is the most important thing for actually getting things done. Otherwise, Shapeshifter is a nice app for playing around with.
B) Any major re-design of the overal GUI is not going to come in a dot update. You don't re-work the GUI just like that anyways, it takes years of fine-tuning. Maybe Illuminous is for the next version of OSX, and will feature both a new look and new interface...
Yes, that's right - they don't look much different, if at all, and that is the problem! We need a NEW (different) UI than tiger, and I'm not seeing that in these leaked pics.
Why do we need a NEW (different) UI? Is it a purely aesthetical gripe? or is there some sort of functionality we are missing out on by having a blue bubbly scroll bar as opposed to a greyish rectangle?
Yeah, first get a life and then learn how to live it.
If Apple read your posts they would just disregard it. A vast majority of Apple's customer base like the OS X interface. It's 1000 times better than OS 9.
Now let's compare it the other guys.
Is there a version of MS Windows better?
Is there something better on UNIX?
You keep saying Apple can do better, but that's like me saying that the automobile industry can do better. Yeah, they can do better, but there are factors which prevent them from doing so. And again, "better" would need to be defined (is it better milage or flying cars?). In Apple's case would better be further streamlining their OS, without alienating their customer core or is it redesigning everything and breaking what already works?
Just try to ignore MacVaulthis complaints about the OS X UI are almost as annoying as DHM's bitching about integrated graphics. Many of his complaints will never be addressed, because they're fundamental to the Mac interfacesuch as the menu bar being at the top of the screen instead of in the application, a la Windows. If you want a more Windows-like UI, USE WINDOWS.
Basically if you depend on a good interface to make your fictional machine work well, then I recommend that you get Palm Pilot or something.
Wait here's an idea. Load up the Developers kit and create your own user interface (it's not impossible and would be a fun project for you). And then when you're done, you can post some screenshots and we'll review it for you.
WOW, I wondered why Apple's sales were getting worse quarter after quarter. It's the UI, it's driving people away in droves. They are in serious trouble, novody will ever buy another Apple designed computer because of the Aqua UI.
Seriously, why should Apple change Aqua. From their point of view things are great. Sales are up, and OSX is being talked about everywhere. Why make a radical change in the way OSX looks, just for the sake of change?
Yes, I can't imagine why Apple wouldn't include the functionality that would allow its users to play ripped DVDs (still illegal to do in the US if they have copy protection) with their software. I mean, it's not like that'd be a conflict of interest, what with them trying to court the movie industry for digital distribution on the iTunes Store.
I mean, come on. At some point your needs become more esoteric than 90% of the Apple userbase. Or, at least, the userbase Apple is targeting with features like Front Row.
As I was saying (before I was so rudely interrupted), DVD Player already plays VIDEO_TS folders. But Front Row doesn't. This is what vexes me.
Here we're getting to a difference in perspective. Most users won't ever, or at worst will rarely ever face the situation you're describing. For the major power user apps (and even some not-so-power apps) I think you'd find they carry a lot of the functionality around with the window or in palettes that are typically much closer to the window, and most, if not all, the menu functionality can be accessed through keyboard short-cuts. Thus for the user who's most likely to have a huge display (power user), it's not such an issue, and for people who don't have such a display, it's, obviously, also not an issue. So, from my perspective, you're asking to change something that's been fundamental to the Mac user experience for almost 23 years just to help an issue faced by a tiny minority of users. To me this makes no sense. Just MHO.
That's strange. I'll try it on my computer and tell you what happens.
Hmm. I checked it, and sure enough, iChat won't stay hidden. I suspect that it has to do with the 'hide' command coming through before the process of initializing the connection and starting up iChat is complete. I get an error chime during start up, which contributes to this theory. In any event, you're right, something's wrong. You might try using Start Up Items to start iChat very early in the start up process, then have an Apple Script that will hide iChat at the end of the start up process. It might work...
You could run in X11 mode if you hate the entire (as I read it) GUI so much. Sounds like you are running OS X only for the underlying *nix layer, but then if thats the case, save yourself the ire and run Linux.
I also love the OS X gui, and I, too, would love to see the UI simplified. My new direction: MINIMILIZATION
Dude, it (3D-VFS) doesnt run on top of Finder. Finder is the initial shell interface that ships with OS X. Last time I looked, 3D-VFS doesnt ship with OS X.
Exactly. I mean, my iMac DV can boot off of a flash drive (OS 9.) It's not a new feature by any means.
....are you sure you're in the right forums? You seem to hate everything Apple. ....or are you just in here to bait?
Could we just run you through a wood chipper instead? Then Steve could keep his people focused on improving the underpinnings of the OS, and maybe he'd then be doing that long enough for him to realize perhaps he should be using a different kernel.
(J/K about the chipper part)
Seriously, I understand everyone's different, but what's your problem with Aqua? I happen to like it. Yes, I know it doesn't offer the flexibility or the extensibility of, say, Gnome or KDE, et al, but thank the gods it isn't that piece of felgercarb from the hinterlands of Washington State.
Maybe, depending on how you define "better". If by "better" you mean such things as ease of use and consistency, I would say that GNOME (for example) gives OS X a serious run for it's money. My wife has less probems with Linux + GNOME than she has with OS X. If by "better" you mean "a layer of candy", then OS X is indeed "better". Then again, they do have 3D-accelerated desktops in Linux-land these days, so even that layer of candy is debatable.
Note: I'm not saying that Aqua is bad. What I am saying is that you guys shouldn't blindly believe that OS X is better than everything else, in all areas.