Honestly? I don't "effing" think so...no secret features apart from some under the hood improvements...no new UI, no wonderful changes in Finder...it's not gonna happen.irmongoose said:So, are the "Top Secret" features going to be announced alongside the release date?
Or for that matter, are there actually going to be any major features we haven't already heard about?
It's more than a possibility.I'ts a more-than-likely.The developer builds have no secret features... Surprise Surprise. They wouldnt be secret if the developers had them.
However....
something that struck me is that a completed leopard with all or selected features could be in the hands of a selected few developers and testers, such as Adobe (or even Microsoft MacBU), but the NDA terms of them having these versions could be very strict with major penalties if any information is disclosed. By giving different features to different testers you can soon tell who has leaked info.
Its a possibility.
Over on MacRumors on the 10.4.9 page there's this note indicating end of March for Leopard. Clicking the link doesn't confirm this, just saying Spring
I still have my money on WWDC 2007 (June 11-15) for Leopard's final release date (along with the release of iPhone and some other cool goodies). Granted, that is a bit late to be considered "spring."
...something that struck me is that a completed leopard with all or selected features could be in the hands of a selected few developers and testers, such as Adobe (or even Microsoft MacBU), but the NDA terms of them having these versions could be very strict with maj
1) Microsoft has an entire Macintosh Business Unit which creates software for Mac OS X (mainly Office).I guess that's not as awful as I'd thought before. Still, I'm hoping that they at least show us those secret features sooner than that... that's the only thing I really care about. I can wait for leopard until I go off to school, but I'm really curious about the features.
Why would Microsoft have it? Wasn't the supposed point of not releasing the secret features to keep Microsoft from stealing them? (I'm not saying that I actually believe this. It's possible, but it's more likely that they weren't ready. However, I can't imagine that Apple would let Microsoft of all companies know of these features before telling the world.)
It means that Apple wants all the kinks worked out by 2008--Leopard itself will feature resolution independence, but Apple can make no guarantees about third party software. It's very clear from the language that Apple wants developers to take care of those particular details this year and not let them linger. It's also a less-than-subtle reminder in the industry, whenever a transition is mentioned, that you should already be working on it. Fortunately, most software is fairly simple to fix.The developer connection video suggests that developers get their apps ready for 2008. What does that mean? Leopard in Spring 2008 or no resolution independence in Leopard to begin with?
I did; I was merely pointing out that annual releases of any kind are no longer certain. The release date doesn't have to "move" anywhere consistently--it could come in November or February or July next year. Maybe there will not be any iLife 2008 at all. The only reason we get such frequent updates is because the suite has been heretofore incomplete.Either you didn't, or I'm totally missing your point, because I'm pretty sure I said there probably won't be a release of iLife in January.
It's more than a possibility.I'ts a more-than-likely.
I think the killer hidden-feature in Leopard is going to be groundbreaking voice to text that will also be part of iPhone. Apple has several unused patents on this technology and I think it's no coincidence that Dragon Naturally Speaking is not ported to OS X ... Apple's going to bring out a superior product within the OS.
The developer builds have no secret features... Surprise Surprise. They wouldnt be secret if the developers had them.
However....
something that struck me is that a completed leopard with all or selected features could be in the hands of a selected few developers and testers, such as Adobe (or even Microsoft MacBU), but the NDA terms of them having these versions could be very strict with major penalties if any information is disclosed. By giving different features to different testers you can soon tell who has leaked info.
Its a possibility.
1) Microsoft has an entire Macintosh Business Unit which creates software for Mac OS X (mainly Office).
2) Microsoft has already released Vista, so it will be at least another 5 years before we see another Windows OS update, so I wouldn't worry about them stealing any of Leopard's features any time soon.![]()
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1) Microsoft has an entire Macintosh Business Unit which creates software for Mac OS X (mainly Office).
2) Microsoft has already released Vista, so it will be at least another 5 years before we see another Windows OS update, so I wouldn't worry about them stealing any of Leopard's features any time soon.![]()
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Why would Microsoft have it? Wasn't the supposed point of not releasing the secret features to keep Microsoft from stealing them? (I'm not saying that I actually believe this. It's possible, but it's more likely that they weren't ready. However, I can't imagine that Apple would let Microsoft of all companies know of these features before telling the world.)
How amazingly awesome would it be if Leopard came out at the end of this month. Where exactly is that picture from?
yeah, well, amazon also posted new iLife and iWork updates before MacWorld.
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It's still there, posted at this link
I think the killer hidden-feature in Leopard is going to be groundbreaking voice to text that will also be part of iPhone. Apple has several unused patents on this technology and I think it's no coincidence that Dragon Naturally Speaking is not ported to OS X ... Apple's going to bring out a superior product within the OS.