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I'm a typical early adopter but my trust in apple has paid off. 10.5 Works Flawlessly on my old 17" CD iMac, My new 2.66 Mac Pro, My C2D MacBook My mums 20" C2D iMac and even my old Dual 450 G4. All of them were (erase & install) Clean installs except my mums iMac. My mums Boyfreind did manage to delete a load of work when he put it in a stack and then deleted the folder and emptied the trash. I did laugh!
 
Leopard is brilliant. I did a clean install as I always have done with any new version of OSX as any other method is just laziness and asking for trouble. I think you'll find most problems
and complaints are coming from people who did NOT do a clean install.

It runs on my dual 3Ghz 8 core MacPro (13gig ram ) with only minor problems, nothing that can't be avoided. Time Machine - great - have a 750 gig raid 1 sitting on top of my machine in a nice matching case. Stacks is lovely to behold and everthing works well and fast including Creative Suite CS3 with an occasional InDesign hiccup and a minor niggle in Photoshop.

Also have Leopard of my MacBook and my dual 2Ghz G5 (first model in the range)

Love it.
 
Production machines should not install new OS until at least .3 update or untill all softwares used with machine are updated!!!

What a load of bollocks. My 3 Macs are all 'production' machines and all are running 10.5 and Adobe CS3 Suite with no problems.
 
believe me or not, this is the first thread i view in macrumors after doing a fresh install of Leopard on my MBP. i upgraded tiger to leopard but i thought leopard should have been better that what it was. so today i installed it by fresh install. and if it is the same as before, i am more than happy with tiger.

but there is a thing, i went to two of the premium resellers (while leopard was installing itself) and saw their leopard wsnt so bad.

i hope it is gonna be the same with me.
 
It's total rubbish. I have a Dual 2Ghz G5 (one of the initial models) with 4 gig of ram, 3 gig of which is NOT Apple. Leopard's working fine.

Figured out the problem. He has the first round of Dual 2ghz G5 and what he had to do to install Leopard was take out the 3rd party ram and the install worked perfect, popped it back in after the install and its all good. Just some weird glitch with his system.
 
Leopard is a tiny bit slower...

Leopard is nice, but for me, on my new MBP 2.2, it is noticably slower than Tiger, which was super snappy.

But it don't suck!
 
Leopard has been a smooth ride for me, but just incase anything happens, I have another drive for Tiger.

I also edit any video projects with the Tiger Drive just "incase".

I'm not in any kind of production setting and still have a Tiger drive that I can boot into just incase. Will probably delete that come 10.5.2-3.
 
Figured out the problem. He has the first round of Dual 2ghz G5 and what he had to do to install Leopard was take out the 3rd party ram and the install worked perfect, popped it back in after the install and its all good. Just some weird glitch with his system.

Weird. I did a clean install with the non Apple ram in and had no problems. Mind you I'm not using the machine much - scanning mostly - as I've now got a lovely very fast MacPro with 13 gig of ram - 12gig of which is non-Apple and works fine with Leopard.

Could be an urban myth spread by Apple to get you to buy their incredibly over-priced ram. You don't get billions of cash reserves being Mr nice guy. Though Apple are sweet little angels compared to Microsoft.
 
I'm not in any kind of production setting and still have a Tiger drive that I can boot into just incase. Will probably delete that come 10.5.2-3.

It's the smartest route in my opinion. Just because you have the newest version of Mac OS X doesn't mean it will be the most stable (10.5.0/10.5.1 and every other early version of every release of OS X)

Pro's shouldn't even touch Leopard (their work machines at least).

As the saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
 
Leopard has been a smooth ride for me, but just incase anything happens, I have another drive for Tiger.

I also edit any video projects with the Tiger Drive just "incase".

As I rely almost totally on my Macs for my living (which is why I have about 5 different backup drives) I kept my old machine with 10.4 for a couple of weeks and then jumped in.

So I am now totally Leopard.

My wife still has 10.4 on her iMac, because I really haven't got time to . . . . . . you know - and it's working fine for her.
 
problems here as well...

I just want to agree mostly with the OP. I've had a great deal of trouble with Leo myself. I won't repost it all again, but just a few minutes ago I posted in another forum on this same topic:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4592918#post4592918


I have several comments about it elsewhere - click on my name to read more.

"Sucks" is a bit strong, but I feel "Beta" is more appropriate.
It is usable really, but niggling issues abound!

Any advice on my "sleep" issue is appreciated.
 
What a load of bollocks. My 3 Macs are all 'production' machines and all are running 10.5 and Adobe CS3 Suite with no problems.

No it's not. You happened to fare pretty well, but it doesn't mean that the advice is bad. Adobe didn't even say Leopard was supported until a bit later.

I don't care who the vendor is, you should want to test it out pretty well before committing to it.

It's worst if you decided to do it in the middle of a big project, then you'd be out of luck or have problematic delays if the upgrade caused problems.
 
Don't mince words . . .

Leopard and unfortunately Apple complete bites.

I've used Macs since Mac Plus. They used to be all about performance. Now they've sold out to the stock market on their computer platforms. They go for the profits with frequent OS upgrades at the expense of us, their loyal customers. I've bought just about every mac ever released. Leopard sucks!!! It's slow, it crashes constantly and if they are working on making things better, they're taking their sweet friggin' time about it. I've never been more sorry to upgrade. Love the features, like smart folders, cover flip, etc, but the expense to normal operation makes me really regret not waiting a little longer. I hope they fix it soon. I feel burnt.
 
Leopard and unfortunately Apple complete bites.

Leopard sucks!!! It's slow, it crashes constantly and if they are working on making things better, they're taking their sweet friggin' time about it.

What machine are you using it on? I've got Leopard on my Macbook (early model), on my Dual 2GHz G5 and on my Dual quad core 3GHz Macpro. Hasn't crashed once on any of them and I use them all day every day, and it actually seems to run faster.

I did a complete re-format and install - any other method is asking for trouble (That applies to all the all the versions of OSX not just Leopard)
 
I'm sick of apple's bs os, I'm writing this post on my mb pro with 10.5.3 installed and I just cannot shut down the machine since I installed 10.5.3 unless I do a hard shutdown or kill a bunch of processes from terminal first. The only machine I've not had any problems with is an older mbpro with ubnutu installed as the main os. Neither apple or microsoft are capable of making a decent operating system and they spend most of their money and energy trying to protect a pile of crab with patents, legal agreements and other bs. Let's us imagine a world without microsoft or apple: Very peaceful :)
 
I'm sick of apple's bs os, I'm writing this post on my mb pro with 10.5.3 installed and I just cannot shut down the machine since I installed 10.5.3 unless I do a hard shutdown or kill a bunch of processes from terminal first. The only machine I've not had any problems with is an older mbpro with ubnutu installed as the main os. Neither apple or microsoft are capable of making a decent operating system and they spend most of their money and energy trying to protect a pile of crab with patents, legal agreements and other bs. Let's us imagine a world without microsoft or apple: Very peaceful :)

Thanks for bumping an old thread with a fair and just analysis about Apple's place in the world.
 
Well you must obviously have some seriously badly written non-Apple crap running on your machine.

I've got a Macbook, a Macbook Air, a G5 iMac, a dual G5 Mac tower and a dual quad core MacPro and they are ALL running 10.5.3 with NO PROBLEMS at all. and my Apple Tv, my unlocked iPhone and 3 iPods are all very happy too.
 
Just to chime in on 10.5.3, I've updated about 6 machines of various specs. Macbooks, powermacs, ibooks, mac pro's, and imacs.

In one case, a powermac g5, it completely trashed the machine. It would hard lock on reboot without system.log or crash log entries. So there was no way to debug.

Yes, I did all the regular things to attempt to fix it. But without log entries my attempts were fairly general.

I had to do a complete reinstall. All the other machines went fine.
 
There are three computers in my house running 10.5.3. Not a single problem with any of them. We're satisfied. :)
 
There are three computers in my house running 10.5.3. Not a single problem with any of them. We're satisfied. :)

yeah, I didn't want to suggest that people not install 10.5.3. Sometimes updates go badly (with any OS..linux, windows, osx, you name it) and perhaps the above poster, like my powermac, is suffering from one of these rare instances.

It's really not a big issue, happens like once every couple of 100 times and all you have to do is reinstall and recover files from that daily backup that every sane computer user has. ;)
 
Oh yeah, I hear ya. My biggest problem with leopard is when you move something to the trash and then try to empty it you get the "Are you sure you want to empty it? You cannot undo this action!" dialog. This is most irritating.

You can turn that warning off in the finder prefs :rolleyes:
 
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