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tj2001

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I was curious if there is any confirmed requirements for Leopard?
I have a Dual 1.25 G4 with the FW800, 1.5 Gigs Ram, and the stock video card.

Will I be able to run it, or will I need a video card upgrade?
 
tj2001 said:
I was curious if there is any confirmed requirements for Leopard?
I have a Dual 1.25 G4 with the FW800, 1.5 Gigs Ram, and the stock video card.

Will I be able to run it, or will I need a video card upgrade?

That'll be supported, for sure - you might miss out on a few graphical niceties, but I don't think there's any debate over whether that system will meet minimum system requirements...

What video card does that machine come with, by the way?
 
you can be sure Leopard will run on all the systems on the market now.
and. to be honest, I don' think leopard will have different sys req than Tiger.
 
clevin said:
you can be sure Leopard will run on all the systems on the market now.
and. to be honest, I don' think leopard will have different sys req than Tiger.

uummm.........

every previous version of OS X has needed more HD space, system ram and vram to function at usable levels than the one before it.......although not like double/triple etc but still...


And, the Leopard page does say "from G3 to Xeon".......
 
10.1, 10.2, 10.3 have pretty much same sys req, only 10.4 require more ram.
 
SmurfBoxMasta said:
And, the Leopard page does say "from G3 to Xeon".......

Not anymore it doesn't...

Tiger requires FireWire, 256 MB of RAM and 3 GB of space. Panther required 128 MB of RAM and 1.5 GB of space (although 3 GB was recommended).
 
I don't expect the OS to be too resource hungry, its what will make the gap between OSX and vista.
 
iradeon said:
I just got my Developer Preview. It seems that G3 systems will not be supported in Leopard. I repeat, G3 systems will not be supported.

So either you are in breach of your NDA, or you are making this up. In both cases you are not trustworthy, and whatever your claims are can be ignored. But just because I am curious: Which one is it? Are you a person who is willing to risk major financial loss and legal problems for himself and/or the company he is working for, just to make a post on MacRumors, or are you someone who has to make up stories to feel important?
 
Remember that it is still an OS X release, not OS 11. I consider these OS X releases as major updates, not as new Operating Systems, thus each version of OS X have similar system requirements.
 
This may be a stupid question, but does Leopard write over "those 3 GB" that Tiger took up when you upgrade, or will Leopard suck up another "3 GB" off of my ibook when I upgrade to it? In other words, is it "3 GB" bigger than Tiger?
 
thewhitehart said:
This may be a stupid question, but does Leopard write over "those 3 GB" that Tiger took up when you upgrade, or will Leopard suck up another "3 GB" off of my ibook when I upgrade to it? In other words, is it "3 GB" bigger than Tiger?

I very much doubt it. It will be bigger, most definitely but not that much bigger.
 
I can't verify the veracity of the information, but according to theplaceforitall.com, the requirements for the developer's preview that was handed out is a follows:

You must have a Macintosh computer with:

-an Intel processor or a PowerPC G4 or G5 processor
-a DVD drive
-built-in FireWire
-at least 256 MB of RAM for a Power-PC based Mac and 512 MB for an
Intel-based Mac (additional RAM is recommended for development
purposes)
-a built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video
card supported by your computer
-at least 6 GB of disk space available, or 8 GB if you install the
developer tools

So, if you trust the website then running Leopard on a G3 won't be supported and the requirements are pretty close to being on par with Tiger.

Originally Posted by thewhitehart
This may be a stupid question, but does Leopard write over "those 3 GB" that Tiger took up when you upgrade, or will Leopard suck up another "3 GB" off of my ibook when I upgrade to it? In other words, is it "3 GB" bigger than Tiger?

With most OS (not just OS X) upgrades, the older system files will be overwritten by the newer ones. So upgrading from Tiger to Leopard won't add "those 3GB" from Tiger to whatever Leopard ends up needing. There may be some some over lap (I prefer erase and installs to upgrades), but most liekly not by much.
 
I'm very sure that Leopard will run on my 1ghz Tibook. What I'm unsure of is whether it will run as smoothly as Tiger. I really do want to upgrade to Leopard but I don't want my laptop to feel bogged down in anyway since Tiger runs plenty fast. Let's hope the maxed out ram will keep me going strong
 
SmurfBoxMasta said:
every previous version of OS X has needed more HD space, system ram and vram to function at usable levels than the one before it.......although not like double/triple etc but still...
No. Although the numbers may increase, performance will also strangely increase on the same old hardware. I have a Mac G3 350 MHz which I had loaded the 10.2 system. Afterwards, when I upgraded to 10.3, I noticed 50% more speed on the same hardware. I have 384 mbytes RAM onto this machine, and 6Gbytes HDD.
 
I'd find it somewhat surprising if Apple doesn't support any of the G3 systems. They were selling G3 iBooks until the end of 2003. That seems rough to cut out all those users. Also, if it'll run on any G4, I would think that a 900Mhz G3 isn't too slow.

Still, there are definitely signs that the G3 isn't supported.
 
ricgnzlzcr said:
I'm very sure that Leopard will run on my 1ghz Tibook. What I'm unsure of is whether it will run as smoothly as Tiger. I really do want to upgrade to Leopard but I don't want my laptop to feel bogged down in anyway since Tiger runs plenty fast. Let's hope the maxed out ram will keep me going strong

I'm actually hoping it will run better. I've never really been that happy with Tiger (except for the widgets, which I love). I've always been of the opinion that Tiger isn't as speedy as it could be- the graphics don't seem as smooth as Panther, etc. OS X has steadily improved speed-wise over the years. Let's hope it gets even better. I mean, come on- when I have a dual-core G5 with 3.5 Gb RAM and still get beachballs from time to time, what's going on?
 
The last iBook with a G3 would have been sold through retail channels between 3 3/4 - 4 years before Leopard is expected to ship depending on when it falls in the "Spring 2007" timeframe.

Apple is only "obligated" to support their products for 3 years due to their warranty policies. Most of their products are still supported today regardless of that.

Frankly, the fact that Apple is continuing to support much of their stuff up to 8 years is pretty astonishing compared to most of the computing community.

Now, put on your flame retardant undergarments and take a chill pill.
There are systems sold today through retail channels ($1800+ systems) that have NO HOPE of running Vista at all.
 
projectle said:
The last iBook with a G3 would have been sold through retail channels between 3 3/4 - 4 years before Leopard is expected to ship depending on when it falls in the "Spring 2007" timeframe.

More like 2 3/4 - 3 years, but still your point is valid.
 
projectle said:
The last iBook with a G3 would have been sold through retail channels between 3 3/4 - 4 years before Leopard is expected to ship depending on when it falls in the "Spring 2007" timeframe.

Good point - people have to realize that Leopard will not actually be out for another 8 months, give or take. It is still a fair ways away when you think about it. :cool:
 
My wife has an older powerbook G4 with 1GHz Power PC processor. I'm not sure how much ram is in it though. Do you think she'll be able to upgrade to Leopard and have everything run smoothly?
 
imho, if you can run tiger just fine you probably should be able to run leopard. I'd recommend 1gb minimum but that was what I recommended for Tiger too *shrug*.
 
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