Leopard Upgrade vs. Leopard Retail... Any Differences?

brn2ski00

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Hi,

I was told specifically (by an Apple Store employee) that there is no difference between these two copies of Leopard. Is this true? Is there only one copy (version) of Leopard?

I hope so, because I purchased the new iMac this past weekend and then bought Leopard using the "Up To Date" program.

Thoughts?
 

illicium

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There is only one universal Leopard as far as I know. Every disc sent out is the exact same. I remember Steve mentioning that a selling point was the fact that there is only one Leopard, and used this to poke a little fun at all the different versions of Vista.
 

Spock

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Well You have

Leopard Home
Leopard Home Premium
Leopard Student Teacher Edition
Leopard For Business
Leopard Ultimate

Oh wait, thats Vista. Just one Leopard or two counting Server
 

brn2ski00

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Well You have

Leopard Home
Leopard Home Premium
Leopard Student Teacher Edition
Leopard For Business
Leopard Ultimate

Oh wait, thats Vista. Just one Leopard or two counting Server
Ok great, because that's what I thought. I will be doing an erase and install when it arrives!
 

Spock

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Ok great, because that's what I thought. I will be doing an erase and install when it arrives!
You should be fine and you dont even have to do a erase and and install you could also perform an archive install and keep all your files.
 

Roy Hobbs

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Hi,

I was told specifically (by an Apple Store employee) that there is no difference between these two copies of Leopard. Is this true? Is there only one copy (version) of Leopard?

I hope so, because I purchased the new iMac this past weekend and then bought Leopard using the "Up To Date" program.

Thoughts?
There are no Upgrade versions, it is an UP-TO-DATE program nothing has ever stated upgrade.
 

brn2ski00

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You should be fine and you dont even have to do a erase and and install you could also perform an archive install and keep all your files.
You think that would be ok? I just got the computer on Saturday and have only put my music, pictures and contacts on it...
 

joebells

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There aren't a whole myriad of different versions of leopard like the previous posters have said just leopard and leopard server. But in years past the upgrade copies have required a previous installation to be there whereas the retail doesn't care. They've both installed the same exact version of the os just one required a previous copy of osx to be installed.

We don't know because we don't have either copy yet but it's probably the same situation here also the upgrade version will require an installation of osx to be present.
 

foidulus

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If its anything like Tiger...yes

I just had to do a wipe of my powerbook that I bought just when Tiger was being released. I have a 10.3.9 restore dvd and a Tiger up to date disc. The disc looks for the previous version of OS X and if you have the current version or higher(or none at all) it whines and says it cannot be installed. So you first have to use the Panther disk, install that, THEN install Tiger on top of it.

Its a real pain, but unlike Windows, you don't often have to reinstall the OS on macs.:p
 

jellomizer

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Same thing.

Even if you get the Family Pack or the Single User License you get the same DVD... Basicly the the price you pay for the family pack is just for the licence for up to five family members in your household to use the same license. But there is nothing stopping you from getting the single user version of OS X and installing it on your family. But if someone going to try to get you legally having a unlawful version of the OS install will only hurt you further. But they are all the same media. If you buy a mac with an Upgrade Option it is basicly saying we know the Next OS is going to be out soon and rather have you wait until the OS is released to purchase our Computers buy it now and we will give you the next version for free, so they can still sell sytems.
 

brn2ski00

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Since you have a new iMac I'm sure Tiger is rather pristine. You might want to consider simply doing an upgrade.
Yeah, I would think so as well. I am not completely clear on the OS as far as file fragments, linkage and stuff like that, but I haven't done anything drastic to the file system.

But wouldn't the archive and install be the best bet? I could just delete the archived folder after I was finished installing Leopard.
 

Rodimus Prime

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There really is not a leopard Retail. All apple sells is "Leopard Upgrade" Reason being is it is impossible to install OSX on any non apple computer and that means any computer able to install OSX had an earlier version of OSX installed on it. So in doing the check to make sure it is an apple computer completes all the checks required to make sure it good for an upgrade.
 

richard.mac

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Why?

Any software that came with your machine will disappear. No iPhoto, etc, no iWork etc.
are you serious? do you even know what your talking about? ilife and the iwork trial are on the install disks that came with your mac. you think apple would just give you a copy of their software without a backup?
 

frostrambler

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Just an FYI, the Leopard UP TO DATE package will just come with the DVD for Leopard, regular Leopard DVD.

There will be no fancy box though, and I don't know about manuals and such.
 

Spock

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How do you know it won't be an upgrade version?
Upgrade version? as far as I can remember the only upgrade version of Mac OS X was the jump to 10.1 they are all going to be the same install DVD Up-To-Date or otherwise ONE VERSION!
 

jaw04005

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Upgrade version? as far as I can remember the only upgrade version of Mac OS X was the jump to 10.1 they are all going to be the same install DVD Up-To-Date or otherwise ONE VERSION!
Let's just keep spreading that myth. Try this thread my friend, http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4377698#post4377698 .

A special upgrade version DOES exist, and has since 10.2. It just wasn't for sell, and only available through the up-to-date program.

I spoke to an Apple rep on the online store via the Chat. He told me that my upgrade DVD would be exactly the same as the "retail" version. If I go to the store and buy a copy of OS X Leopard, it will be the same thing I am getting with my $9.99 upgrade.
Yes, we know that's what they're saying. But Apple is notorious for having Apple Store reps (especially online chat reps) that are misinformed. Check out the thread above for further discussion of this issue. It has some great information from people that actually HAVE PARTICIPATED in a Mac OS X up-to-date program.
 

safetyobc

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I spoke to an Apple rep on the online store via the Chat. He told me that my upgrade DVD would be exactly the same as the "retail" version. If I go to the store and buy a copy of OS X Leopard, it will be the same thing I am getting with my $9.99 upgrade.
 

RaceTripper

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Well You have

Leopard Home
Leopard Home Premium
Leopard Student Teacher Edition
Leopard For Business
Leopard Ultimate

Oh wait, thats Vista. Just one Leopard or two counting Server
You forgot to include

Leopard "Steve Jobs Limited Edition"
the one with the special packaging and the bundled Woz bobble-head
 

mmendoza27

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I'm assuming that if you go buy an Mac on Friday, you will also get the Leopard Retail version as well.

You know how when you buy a new comupter, it comes with the install disks inside? Those are the same as the Leopard Single User pack right?
 

aethelbert

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I'm assuming that if you go buy an Mac on Friday, you will also get the Leopard Retail version as well.

You know how when you buy a new comupter, it comes with the install disks inside? Those are the same as the Leopard Single User pack right?
I don't think that you get the retail version. I read that they will just put the discs into the boxes that day. They have to save the retail versions for people that come in to buy it at 1800
 
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