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Did anyone notice that a fellow UTDer had his copy shipped?

"Your order was shipped on 22.10.2007. Your Delivery Reference Number is *********.
We expect your order to be delivered to your shipping address on or before 24 Oct, 2007

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MB025Z/A MAC OS X 10.5 UTD FULFILLMENT-INT 1 5.06 OCTOBER 26TH"

Did this happen to anyone else???

Did not happen to me but I noticed that my cancel order button is greyed out now meaning maybe its been shipped essentially
 
I know you're a newbie, but I've participated in the Jaguar and Panther Up-to-Date programs, and that's simply not true. Apple does manufacture specially marked upgrade discs for the Up-to-Date program that require a a current version of Mac OS X installed before they will proceed.

These discs are NOT sold to the general public, and are only available as drop-ins or through the Up-to-Date program.

I'm sitting here looking at them now. They say UPGRADE.

I also have a friend who purchased a Mac mini and he has a Tiger UPGRADE disc. So at least as current as 10.4 Tiger, these discs DO EXIST.
Yes I can confirm this, I have the Tiger UTD disk and you cannot use it to install onto a blank drive, you need Panther installed. I know this because my machine that had Tiger installed through the UTD disk had a HD crash and I had to install Panther on it first to restore to Tiger. Annoying!
 
That doesn't mean that it has been shipped. Unless it says "shipped," it has not been shipped.

My cancel button is grey too!

Hey I wonder if the UTD's are already shipped?

Apple said that they are shipping our UTD's via USPS and as many of you know USPS has the crappiest tracking system in the world (If you could even call it a tracking system)!
 
Apple said that they are shipping our UTD's via USPS and as many of you know USPS has the crappiest tracking system in the world (If you could even call it a tracking system)!

Haha. That's why they don't call it a tracking system. They call it a "delivery confirmation" system. :)

If FedEx and UPS can do it, I don't understand why USPS can't. I guess it's postage rates.
 
My cancel button is grey too!

Hey I wonder if the UTD's are already shipped?

Apple said that they are shipping our UTD's via USPS and as many of you know USPS has the crappiest tracking system in the world (If you could even call it a tracking system)!
It would still say shipped on the online order status page. It's grayed because your order has been submitted to the warehouse or is otherwise finalized.
 
It would still say shipped on the online order status page. It's grayed because your order has been submitted to the warehouse or is otherwise finalized.

Well this shipping process has been pretty funky...

Things could be whacky... I have never had cancel greyed out before it was prepared for shipment.

My bet is that they mailed these sons of guns. Check those mailboxes!!!
 
Does anyone else think that $9.95 is kinda high for snail mail? That's almost USPS Express prices.

Also, if the UTD disc allows you to "archive and install" or "upgrade" and the full retail version allows you to "erase and install","upgrade", or "archive and install", isn't that an advantage to the retail version?
 
After chatting with a Store rep on the phone. The guy assured me that my UTD disk would be delivered on Oct. 26. This guy left and took a hell of a long time tracking down the answer. He said that they were well into preparing for shipment and would be at my door on 10-26.

I am still skeptical however as it still says NOT SHIPPED YET. Something isnt right. I think im being misinformed. IF I wasnt so damn OCD about things I wouldnt care but damn....
 
Does anyone else think that $9.95 is kinda high for snail mail? That's almost USPS Express prices.

Also, if the UTD disc allows you to "archive and install" or "upgrade" and the full retail version allows you to "erase and install","upgrade", or "archive and install", isn't that an advantage to the retail version?
How so exactly? The UTD doesn't allow you to do an "Erase and Install", so has 1 less feature than the retail version. That Erase and Install is the only way to install Mac OS X on a blank HD, without it you have to install a previous OS first and then upgrade.
 
How so exactly? The UTD doesn't allow you to do an "Erase and Install", so has 1 less feature than the retail version. That Erase and Install is the only way to install Mac OS X on a blank HD, without it you have to install a previous OS first and then upgrade.

What I meant to say was that the retail version has an advantage over the UTD version. Sorry for the confusion.
 
What I meant to say was that the retail version has an advantage over the UTD version. Sorry for the confusion.
Sorry, I misread! Yes the retail version is obviously better than the UTD version. Although the end result is the same. ;)
 
How come i talked to multiple people at apple on the phone and through chat and they said the UTD disks are EXACTLY the same as the retail version disks?

Is this another one of those lies like, "ok, i put through a replacement order for your MBP" and then a week later when I call back they said they didn't have a record of the order in their system???

If i get upgrade discs, i am going to call apple and demand a full retail disc because I was promised that. If i knew i was getting upgrade discs, i would have cancelled my order and gotten the student discount retail for $69 at my university.

BTW, my order status is still "Not yet shipped" and it says "Ships by Oct. 26th"

:(
 
How come i talked to multiple people at apple on the phone and through chat and they said the UTD disks are EXACTLY the same as the retail version disks?
Well there's two options: a) Either they don't know what they're talking about or: b) They've made a major change in how things have been done since previous releases.

In the past "Up-to-date" disks have only worked when an OS was already present on the computer.
If i get upgrade discs, i am going to call apple and demand a full retail disc because I was promised that.
Good luck with that.
 
How come i talked to multiple people at apple on the phone and through chat and they said the UTD disks are EXACTLY the same as the retail version disks?

In a sense they are, both the upgrade and retail discs perform full installs of the operating system. It's just the upgrades require Mac OS X already installed.

Apple Store employees are typically misinformed on most pre-release and out of the ordinary product launches. If Apple corporate doesn't specifically state such a limitation, they wouldn't know unless an employee went through the up-to-date process him or herself.

In reality, we are getting a $129 operating system for $9.95 that Apple didn't have to offer us. Whether it has install limitations or not, it's still the full version of the operating system—and we should be happy Apple offers such a program.

It's frustrating (and unnecessary IMO), but in all likelihood we are not going to be reinstalling too many times (maybe a few times a year). Therefore, this issue is somewhat mute, and I personally will be glad to reinstall 10.4 Tiger to save $110.

By the way, you can use Carbon Copy Cloner or Net Restore from Bombich to make a full backup copy of the clean Leopard install, and just use it for restoring. That's what I plan on doing.
 
It's frustrating (and unnecessary IMO), but in all likelihood we are not going to be reinstalling too many times (maybe a few times a year).
Why on Earth would you need to be reinstalling your OS a few times a year? The only time I've ever reinstalled a version of Mac OS X on a computer is when I've encountered a physical hard drive failure.
 
Mine still showing "Not yet shipped" :(

Although as with others the cancel button is now gone (using Firefox to view page) :)

As for the having to install Tiger first thing, I'll still be using SuperDuper! (once it works) to keep a full bootable copy of my hard disk in case of failure, so that's not going to be any issue whatsoever.
 
Why on Earth would you need to be reinstalling your OS a few times a year? The only time I've ever reinstalled a version of Mac OS X on a computer is when I've encountered a physical hard drive failure.

In general, this is not much of a problem for home users. But if you do a lot of video editing, your drive will become fragmented.

In my case, Adobe's CS3 updates tend to brick my CS3 installation. So, instead of fishing through my entire hard drive looking for every single Adobe file, it's easier to reinstall. Adobe in their infinite wisdom decided their poorly written third-party installer should propagate my hard drive with multiple resource and system files instead of keeping everything inside the application and library folders.
 
Why on Earth would you need to be reinstalling your OS a few times a year? The only time I've ever reinstalled a version of Mac OS X on a computer is when I've encountered a physical hard drive failure.

Basically because all OSs build up cruft over time, which slows the system down. That time is dependent on how you use your computer. I have a tendency to install and uninstall applications on a regular basis, trying out new software. Most of these leave bits and pieces of themselves behind. As a result my systems (Windows, Linux, and OS X) tend to slow down after about 6 months. My grandmother, on the other hand, wouldn't install a new app if her life depended on it. As a result, she would almost never need a re-install.

Ben
 
Basically because all OSs build up cruft over time, which slows the system down. That time is dependent on how you use your computer. I have a tendency to install and uninstall applications on a regular basis, trying out new software. Most of these leave bits and pieces of themselves behind. As a result my systems (Windows, Linux, and OS X) tend to slow down after about 6 months. My grandmother, on the other hand, wouldn't install a new app if her life depended on it. As a result, she would almost never need a re-install.
This is an issue on Windows, definitely, because programs tend to add themselves liberally to the "startup" list (Quicktime for example), but not on Mac OS X or linux that I've ever noticed.

I'm sorry to say that your computer "slowing down" after 6 months is probably not real. I'd put it in the same category as people who think Safari seems "snappier" after every OS upgrade.
 
In general, this is not much of a problem for home users. But if you do a lot of video editing, your drive will become fragmented.

In my case, Adobe's CS3 updates tend to brick my CS3 installation. So, instead of fishing through my entire hard drive looking for every single Adobe file, it's easier to reinstall. Adobe in their infinite wisdom decided their poorly written third-party installer should propagate my hard drive with multiple resource and system files instead of keeping everything inside the application and library folders.
OK, now this is a better reason I guess. Fragmentation of HD is real, even though Macs are supposed to be immune to it, they clearly are not.

I don't use Adobe software as a rule, so I'm immune to their particular form of crappiness.
 
charged yet for Leopard UTD yet?

Hi, just wondering how many UTD orders have been actually charged for it yet. I ordered my one of my UTD copies on the 20th, Apple charged me for it on the 22nd. I am on the East coast. My status still says not yet shipped, but the cancel button (actually ALL except change email addy!!) have been greyed out since Monday afternoon, the 22nd. Possible that they ARE sending them out this week....

Have others been actually charged yet?
 
Hi, just wondering how many UTD orders have been actually charged for it yet. I ordered my one of my UTD copies on the 20th, Apple charged me for it on the 22nd. I am on the East coast. My status still says not yet shipped, but the cancel button (actually ALL except change email addy!!) have been greyed out since Monday afternoon, the 22nd. Possible that they ARE sending them out this week....

Have others been actually charged yet?

i used an apple giftcard and the amount on it reflected the original value - the price minutes after i sent in the order
 
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