I mean, the OP gave a great example why itˋs NOT eco BS. 🤷♂️
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While I agree that packaging material is a pointless fashion exercise the charging case with AirPods products are not part of the packaging. They display not just a total lack of understanding of ease of use and bad design all around.
With a Mophie QI charger.
However, I needed to replace the X because its battery enlarged and dislodged the screen (not happy about that either). The phone would get very hot when wirelessly charging, and I suspect this maybe had something to do with it, so Im going to avoid wireless.
I’ve started updating my outlets with outlet that include USB-C chargers.
then it’s no big deal.
then it’s no big deal.
Yup, you got it right. And you’ll pay that $20 to get the charger anyway. Apple knows you will. You know you will. And you’ll buy the iPhone 13 as well.
No, because surely you have plenty of lighting cables lying around going with those blocks?
It's been 6 months since the iPhone 12 was released. Are people still whining about this?
Yup. Upselling tactic in guise of environment marketing to get you to spend more money than you had planned.
Unfortunately, others followed suit as well, with Samsung not including a charger with their S21 phones.
At this point, it might be better spending the money on 3rd party Gan chargers that supports USB3 Power Delivery. Most of them have multiple USB-C/USB-A ports allowing multiple device charging, including laptops. Imo a better investment than the single device low-watt charger Apple is selling.
It’s a bit messed up the way Apple made this transition. If you own a recent iPad or an iPhone 11, you’ve got the charging brick. But most people don’t upgrade every year. Which means that most people won’t already have the brick because previous models used usb-a.
Apple knows that the majority of iPhone owners do not own other Apple devices that would have a brick. So for them to drop the charger out of the box was ill-timed. They should’ve kept it for iPhone 12 and dropped it for the 12s/13. Which would at least given a larger number of people a chance to have the charger. Honestly I would’ve waited for the 2022 iPhones to make sure the 3-year cycle was covered.
I don’t buy the environmental excuse (courage, amiright). It’s based on facts but that isn’t the reason Apple made this move. All we can do is speculate, but I.m disappointed Apple made this decision.
Apple knows that the majority of iPhone owners do not own other Apple devices that would have a brick. So for them to drop the charger out of the box was ill-timed. They should’ve kept it for iPhone 12 and dropped it for the 12s/13. Which would at least given a larger number of people a chance to have the charger. Honestly I would’ve waited for the 2022 iPhones to make sure the 3-year cycle was covered.
I don’t buy the environmental excuse (courage, amiright). It’s based on facts but that isn’t the reason Apple made this move. All we can do is speculate, but I.m disappointed Apple made this decision.
I am with OP,
Apple says they don't want to waste more chargers so they skipped shipping one. Now they insert a USB-C cable, for no reason, to charge the iPhone12.
Now we have to go out and buy a new charger to charge the phone. So they made us spend even more money and did not save on chargers e-waste.
I swear the entitlement some people have is hilarious. They’re a company and they don’t owe you anything. This whole idea that they should cater to you is misguided. This whole issue of not including a charging brick is an issue to a small group of people that seems bigger because you’re on a dedicated Apple fan site. Regular consumers will not care and buy it regardless or get annoyed, shrug it off, and still buy a brick.
It is what is, you can stop supporting them and talk with your wallet or just suck it up and deal with it because it’s not a significant enough issue.
It is what is, you can stop supporting them and talk with your wallet or just suck it up and deal with it because it’s not a significant enough issue.
Makes sense... but actually old iPhone users dont have to buy the new charging brick or cable(which means they have to sell their previous phone without the charging brick and cable).They can use the old ones, but it wouldnt fast charge. As for first time iPhone users yes they have to buy a USB-C charger. Its a plus minus situation.
Me when i first got my 12 Pro Max. But ended up buying the 20W charging brick and Magsafe cable after 2 days. Never complained again xD
Non fanatic iPhone owners do care, but you are right that they will be annoyed and just suck it up. But does that mean everyone should just lie down and take it without vocalizing their displeasure? No.
When I pay $1000+ for a device, I expect it to come with all I need to use it. Especially with the markup Apple places on their products. They can afford it. Is that entitlement? I don’t think so in this case since the device does not work unless you can charge it. You’re asked to buy additional products just to use the device you bought. That’s ass backwards. Is Apple entitled to our extra money we are forced to spend? The only saving grace is that you can buy a solution from other manufacturers.
If it bothers anyone that much, they should stop buying iPhones. There’s great Android phones out there that work just as well. Doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to complain about bad business practices that cost consumers money in nonsensical ways.
Samsung thought it was a good idea because after having a pop they then did the same with their latest phone and didnt supply a plug for the cable.
I got a 12 and i have the USB-C cable in my work bag that i sometimes use with my work PC but aside from that i have usb plugs galore at home from all manner of things plus various cables to use with them to charge it, a couple of plug sockets with built in USB ports that i use the same cables with, CarPlay in the car so its charging then with the cable i always used in there and at work i've got a cable as well as the USB-C one i carry. The one thing i havent missed at any point is a plug i wouldnt have used anyway!!
I got a 12 and i have the USB-C cable in my work bag that i sometimes use with my work PC but aside from that i have usb plugs galore at home from all manner of things plus various cables to use with them to charge it, a couple of plug sockets with built in USB ports that i use the same cables with, CarPlay in the car so its charging then with the cable i always used in there and at work i've got a cable as well as the USB-C one i carry. The one thing i havent missed at any point is a plug i wouldnt have used anyway!!
I’ve had iPhones dating back to the 3GS. Plus 5 iPads over the years. Due to various reasons, I don’t have many working chargers left. I’ll need a new one when I get a new phone.
even if I’m a minority, it would have served more people to include a usb-a cable in the box. They just didn’t handle this transition correctly. There could’ve been less backlash had they thought it through more.
Yeah they included the current cable for no reason other than that’s what more modern computers ship with.
Next time around they might skip that cable too.
You don’t have to buy anything. If you’re upgrading from a previous iPhone, that charger still works. If you’re upgrading from an android, there’s a good chance you already have a usb c charging brick.
Right. Now i get your point. Apple instead gave USB-C to Lightning instead of USB-A to Lightning like previous models. Thus people have to buy USB-C charging bricks. But me personally(an ex Android user) have quite a lot of USB-C bricks. But thats just me.
They should not have included a cable then. End of controversy.
I’m not against being disappointed with their practice, but the wording of the OP just comes off like those customers who absolutely have to fight with manager over something so in particular that the effort would have been better used in finding a less confrontational solution.
Like even you start from zero, no Apple products, no friends with a spare cable or whatever, you could go get a third party one from Best Buy significantly cheaper. Apparently though only refurbished iPhones come with a 5W brick which I find odd that they don’t include it with the lower end “budget” iPhones.
Like even you start from zero, no Apple products, no friends with a spare cable or whatever, you could go get a third party one from Best Buy significantly cheaper. Apparently though only refurbished iPhones come with a 5W brick which I find odd that they don’t include it with the lower end “budget” iPhones.
LOL I know right. If it’s usb-a included then the argument is why is apple sticking usb-a when the future is usb-c. There will be billions of usb-a in the trash. If apple doesn’t include a cable there’s gonna be a post that says, spent $1k on a phone and no cable. Who wins this discussion.