Yes excellent argument for a product aimed at adults. You really made the iPad look good with this post.
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Let's be honest. Isn't Android 3.0 more what you would expect from a Tablet OS?
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Flash is indeed a very serious omission that the iPad would benefit from having. But I do understand that due to Apples addiction to astronomical gross and net profits, they are going to use the fewest, cheapest components possible. This is what a consumer electronics company does. It does seem that Apple used the lowest common denominator when creating the iPad.
Naturally wanting to appeal to as many people as possible it was critical that anyone could operate this device without the need to be functionally literate. Reading and learning has gone out the window with a good portion of the Apple customer demographic. They simple don't value education. Give them a video and they love it, give them a small bit of text to read and they ignore it.
I download FLAC but convert to Apple lossless. It takes less than a minute to convert an LP and I have lossless audio on iPhone. There is also iSub which I can stream my entire FLAC collection on the phone. I was told by an android user that they needed a 3rd party app to play lossless? Just what I was told, I dunno. I think iOs and Android is pretty dope. I have a preference for the iPhone tho. No need to argue about it. Then again without this argument this forum would be slow lol.
I'd be curious to see how many of those complaining about what the ipad lacks actually own one. The only reason i bring it up is that once you actually own one, you discover more apps and more ways to do work, etc with it. I had an idea of how i would use it before i bought mine, but that has been really expanding since
Sounds to me like you lack any understanding of how companies work. The point of companies like Dell, HP, Apple, Samsung, etc... is to make money. However, Apple has the highest rate of consumer satisfaction. You don't get this honor by producing plastic junk like other companies I could mention.
The reason iOS is successful is because it is intuitive to use, regardless of your age, education level or tech savy. Saying that the Apple demographic doesn't value education, is a very arrogant and ignorant statement.
I am fairly new to MR, but I have noticed numerous threads about the benefits of an OS that is not on the market and how it compares to a product that came out a year ago.
What I have figured out is that no one likes the "in your face" notifications on the iPad. I agree, but it is a very, very small part of the user experience. I have read about the lack of Flash since the beginning. If you have to have Flash, I think it makes sense to go elsewhere. We get it, you want flash...Apple doesn't care...move on with your life. I occasionally run across a site that I need flash. I just launch Splashtop remote on those rare occasions and access it from my Mac Mini.
While we are on the subject, if I want a more OSX like experience, I just use Splashop remote to take over my mini. It will also take over my Win7 PC, so it has a lot of versatility. If I am away from home, we usually take a laptop for the hard drive space in case we shoot and store video or want to store or edit photos. The iPad is so small that taking it and a laptop is similar to carrying a book and a laptop. No one said I had to throw out my laptop when I got the iPad..it is just used a lot less.
Also, I see many complaints that show the person posting hasn't done their homework. You can play Flac with the iPad. However, I think it makes more sense to convert the files to ALAC if you have Apple devices. I use lossless formats for the ability to easily convert without degrading the file.
I am sure tablets will continue to evolve. No big surprise. I really don't care as long as I have the apps. Of course, it remains to be seen whether Apple will run off some of the major players...kindle, netflix, etc.. For me, that is infinitely more important than widgets, flash, more elegant notifications, etc.
For the record, I don't mind owning a laptop for more serious stuff (mainly for the larger screen, excel, and hard drive space) and an iPad for consuming media. It works for me now and I am sure it will continue to improve with more RAM, better screens, etc.. However, if someone wants to go with android, WebOS, etc...it won't hurt my feelings. Competition is good for the consumer. I may switch if I see something worthwhile for my needs or if we see a mass exodus from the app providers. I just can't get excited or want to change because the home screen may have too much empty space or for widgets.
What I have figured out is that no one likes the "in your face" notifications on the iPad. I agree, but it is a very, very small part of the user experience. I have read about the lack of Flash since the beginning. If you have to have Flash, I think it makes sense to go elsewhere. We get it, you want flash...Apple doesn't care...move on with your life. I occasionally run across a site that I need flash. I just launch Splashtop remote on those rare occasions and access it from my Mac Mini.
While we are on the subject, if I want a more OSX like experience, I just use Splashop remote to take over my mini. It will also take over my Win7 PC, so it has a lot of versatility. If I am away from home, we usually take a laptop for the hard drive space in case we shoot and store video or want to store or edit photos. The iPad is so small that taking it and a laptop is similar to carrying a book and a laptop. No one said I had to throw out my laptop when I got the iPad..it is just used a lot less.
Also, I see many complaints that show the person posting hasn't done their homework. You can play Flac with the iPad. However, I think it makes more sense to convert the files to ALAC if you have Apple devices. I use lossless formats for the ability to easily convert without degrading the file.
I am sure tablets will continue to evolve. No big surprise. I really don't care as long as I have the apps. Of course, it remains to be seen whether Apple will run off some of the major players...kindle, netflix, etc.. For me, that is infinitely more important than widgets, flash, more elegant notifications, etc.
For the record, I don't mind owning a laptop for more serious stuff (mainly for the larger screen, excel, and hard drive space) and an iPad for consuming media. It works for me now and I am sure it will continue to improve with more RAM, better screens, etc.. However, if someone wants to go with android, WebOS, etc...it won't hurt my feelings. Competition is good for the consumer. I may switch if I see something worthwhile for my needs or if we see a mass exodus from the app providers. I just can't get excited or want to change because the home screen may have too much empty space or for widgets.
Same. Can't wait to get my hands on a Xoom. I think I'll wait for a few reviews to go up on the 'net first tho.
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I think the next version of iOS will bring more of these useful touches we're seeing in Android and others to the iPad. I don't think it's feasible to have a global notifications bar, though, as developers have the option to hide the status bar. This would also go against the idea of "one full screen app, one focus" that they're pushing for Lion too.
By the way, your thread title and poll question are a little confusing. A "Yes" to the thread title question is a "No" to the poll question.
I think the next version of iOS will bring more of these useful touches we're seeing in Android and others to the iPad. I don't think it's feasible to have a global notifications bar, though, as developers have the option to hide the status bar. This would also go against the idea of "one full screen app, one focus" that they're pushing for Lion too.
By the way, your thread title and poll question are a little confusing. A "Yes" to the thread title question is a "No" to the poll question.
Yes, you can. It's a touch device.
Edit: stupid tapatalk didn't post the rest of my post.
Safari is definitely lacking for a tablet, but icab mobile is great, just what I wanted. I don't care about notifications, so no, I'm good with iOS. All my apps aree on two pages with folders, no clutter, nothing fancy, just quick and easy.
I think the point someone was making about that, why should you have to pay for an app that should have been part of the platform right away.
Yes excellent argument for a product aimed at adults. You really made the iPad look good with this post.
The iPad is aimed at everyone, adults have iPhones and kids have iPod Touches - meaning anyone can now pick up an iPad and be able to work it.
Actually, desktop like is a mistake. Laptop is a portable desktop and make sense its os is like a desktop. A tablet is more than just portable. It is also flexible. A tablet is easier to carry in your hands and easier to move around and it is more independent from wires.
iOS can be kept in state where you can turn on instantly where as desktop os cannot be left on as such. Tablet by itself is limited for power users. However, this may change by year end with quad core or till it has at least 2 gb of RAM.
Honeycomb os is ok. Widgets are nice gimmicks and can be useful. On ios, you got native apps like weather,etc. If not native, you can get it free or buy 99 cent version from the store. Maybe apple will upgrade the folder systems. Maybe the storage locker (cloud) will play a nice role.
I noticed the multi-task look similar to apple. On apple, it is at the bottom and the honeycomb, it is on the left side.
Everything you need to know about android...
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/02/19/apples-iphone-and-the-curious-world-of-android-enthusiasts/
Funny stuff.
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2011/02/19/apples-iphone-and-the-curious-world-of-android-enthusiasts/
Funny stuff.
Well done for defining a hypocrite... Anyway, if people want something with more muscle and a fully-fledged desktop experience, what the hell are they doing buying a tablet device that is squarely aimed at mass-consumers as an entertainment device?
This is so obvious it's nearly stupefying. The iPad is fine. No one is forcing anyone to purchase it.
Wait, Android 3.0 is out? I thought it was only being shown off on demos and there's no shipping product yet.
Based on that, how can you say that the browser is better? In fact if its anything like the web browser on 2.2, its awful.
The notification system is way better then iOS. I don't think anyone is going to argue that and that fact has been known since android hit the streets
Like the notification system, android's ability to customize nearly every facet has been known for a while. The flexibility of its home screen and widgets is not new to 3.0
In the end android is a different OS that has some things going for it over iOS but iOS has other things going for it over android. Saying that android 3.0 is better is incorrect because its not even out yet and better is subjective.
Every time I used an Android device, it almost crashes or hangs up on something.
That's not to say my iPhone doesn't do the same thing, and with BlackBerry and HP bringing out newer devices to PAIR with their tablets, I will probably be leaving Apple altogether. If I have an iPhone and an iPad, they should work together. MobileMe syncing, which in my experience is a lot faster than Google syncing, is still way too slow. I delete emails on my iPhone, and they still show up on my iPad for days, until I actually hit the refresh button.
Back on topic:
Notifications for iOS on the iPad don't really need to change that much. It's not like you're getting text messages or phone calls that completely disrupt what you're doing. Notifications needs to be greatly enhanced on the iPhone, but since they basically run the same OS, when that happens the iPad's will change as well.
That's not to say my iPhone doesn't do the same thing, and with BlackBerry and HP bringing out newer devices to PAIR with their tablets, I will probably be leaving Apple altogether. If I have an iPhone and an iPad, they should work together. MobileMe syncing, which in my experience is a lot faster than Google syncing, is still way too slow. I delete emails on my iPhone, and they still show up on my iPad for days, until I actually hit the refresh button.
Back on topic:
Notifications for iOS on the iPad don't really need to change that much. It's not like you're getting text messages or phone calls that completely disrupt what you're doing. Notifications needs to be greatly enhanced on the iPhone, but since they basically run the same OS, when that happens the iPad's will change as well.
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Advantages of android 3.0:
- Better notifications.
- Widgets.
- The home screen is more 'desktopy' - AKA you can put icons where you want, and arrange widgets in-between them - but it looks very cool and slick, unlike xp.
- Flash. Whats wrong with Flash? Peformace? Well, the Tegra 3 (due by the end of this year) is faster than the c2d, supports quad core and can push displays up to 2500x1600 (retina display?).
- Extras: Live Wallpapers, Apps that aren't based in a world of rules (yes, that's a pun based on the film: The Matrix), browser with real tabs and camera software has lots of options.
Advatages of iOS:
- Better peformace - in perticular, less crashes (as long as you're not on two year old hardware); however, dual core mobile processors, and even quad core, make android quick as iOS.
- Apps, even though android apps aren't locked down, iOS' apps are better quality, faster and just better in general.
- No custom carrier addons, but 3.0 doesn't seem to have this problem.
Advantages of android 3.0:
- Better notifications.
- Widgets.
- The home screen is more 'desktopy' - AKA you can put icons where you want, and arrange widgets in-between them - but it looks very cool and slick, unlike xp.
- Flash. Whats wrong with Flash? Peformace? Well, the Tegra 3 (due by the end of this year) is faster than the c2d, supports quad core and can push displays up to 2500x1600 (retina display?).
- Extras: Live Wallpapers, Apps that aren't based in a world of rules (yes, that's a pun based on the film: The Matrix), browser with real tabs and camera software has lots of options.
Advatages of iOS:
- Better peformace - in perticular, less crashes (as long as you're not on two year old hardware); however, dual core mobile processors, and even quad core, make android quick as iOS.
- Apps, even though android apps aren't locked down, iOS' apps are better quality, faster and just better in general.
- No custom carrier addons, but 3.0 doesn't seem to have this problem.
That is a bit of a sweeping statement when talking about tablets.
For a start Honeycomb Apps are not really off the starting line yet.
If say Electronic Arts who produced Monolopy on the iPad wanted to make a Honeycomb version, they would have the Tegra2 and more memory to use for the Honeycomb version.
I don't really understand why the Honeycomb version would be any worse than the iOS version for the iPad. If anything I would expect it to be better.
If a Dev wishes to port a iOS game over to a Tegra 2 based Honeycomb machine and not improve it at all, then that's poor port.
I can't really see why, by default a developer producing his/her application/game on both formats would make the Honeycomb tablet version any worse.
Actually given the larger screen res, more memory, better CPU/GPU combo, I would hope if anything it would be better.
I always hate lazy ports on any range of devices.
It mainly depends on the apps you use on the iPad. For example I use Google Voice and the notifications of new text messages and voice mails needs work. I usually end up disabling the notification on all my apps. One thing to note, the current notification system was based in a non-multi threaded iOS. Hopefully with the next major release of iOS, the developer will build a better framework and API that other applications can use.
To me, Honeycomb looks disjointed. Almost as if aesthetics were never a factor during it's creation.
Disparate fonts, widgets look to be too small and the whole OS seems to be generally ugly.
WebOS looks like it has the right idea.
In all honesty, all iOS needs to revamp are it's notifications, and it's all over.
Disparate fonts, widgets look to be too small and the whole OS seems to be generally ugly.
WebOS looks like it has the right idea.
In all honesty, all iOS needs to revamp are it's notifications, and it's all over.
I'm waiting to get some reviews first as well. Just a few things the scare me still. The rumored service fee from verizon for canceling and activating your data when you want, the lack of aps actually built for it, lack of netflix and a small thing I read in the owners manual....no yahoo mail over wireless! WTF