Really? That's standard DSL broadband much of the country has as physical land line to their homes or business. The same downlink as a T1.
That's on the low side, I regularly get 4-5 on a ATT 3G with my 4.
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Let's Get Real: Who CARES About LTE?
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That's on the low side, I regularly get 4-5 on a ATT 3G with my 4.
Correct. However, people forget that higher quality streaming of their media and entertainment, which is made more possible by LTE, will increase their data usage. Also, the more readily accessible something is, the more use it gets.
Think about it. If I know I can refresh my Facebook feed in 1 second instead of 20 seconds, I might be more apt to refresh it more often. Thus, more refreshes equals more data.
That could have a lot to do with flash videos. All of the OS's aside from JellyBean still use flash
Ahh I gotcha. That makes sense. Although I think the Facebook app takes 20 seconds to refresh because it is the most horrible app ever created, but that's for another post. I definitely see your point though.
weird that you posted that. I was looking at the top apps about 10 minutes ago and thinking "damn facebook rocking the 2 stars"
I got one in the early 90s on a hole that I'd be embarrassed to show people if it still existed. (I've sunk longer putts) None since.
But I consistently beat my bro-in-law overall, even though he gets about one ace a year. He hates it. I don't understand how anyone could take time out of their life to give that app anything more than a 1-star review.
Well I did have only 3 bars but that's about the usual where I live. AT&T SUCKS here... I am switching to verizon next spring hopefully...
If I do happen to get 5 bars some where (very rare...) I can get 4-5 Mbps as well but that's never the case. I have 1-3 bars 75%+ of the time...
That's BS. If you use x data, you'll keep using that much. The exception would be a market like NYC or SF where the data is so slow that now you're using less, so your normal (on LTE) would be more relative to the depressed amount you're getting now.
I care. I don't (and wouldn't) stream movies on my iPhone, but I'd like to not have to wait forever for 3G to load a map or Facebook page. Is that really hard to grasp?
That makes sense from a user perspective, but from the network end, if AT&T's network was in decent shape, HSPA+ would be doing that with aplomb, and doing 5mbps with <100ms latency.
Huh? As over the past few years, youtube has begun offering 720P video over the air. You don't think 720P uses more data than 480P? Because it does.
And if someone checks their Facebook, email, ect. more times, then yes that uses more data. I don't know how you can refute that.
So when I get the new iPhone my unlimited is done ???
What if I call in and complain? And say I'm a grandfather and that I have been with at&t and threaten to leave?? Does stuff like that work anymore?
Also will all my rollover min reset whether I keep it the same or lower to the minimum voice plan? I pay like 122$ a month...
What if I call in and complain? And say I'm a grandfather and that I have been with at&t and threaten to leave?? Does stuff like that work anymore?
Also will all my rollover min reset whether I keep it the same or lower to the minimum voice plan? I pay like 122$ a month...
YeS but the HUGE difference is that you can download 10 of those 10mb apps on lte in the same time of the one 10 gb app on 3g. You'll see...
Let's put it this way: If the next iPhone has a Dual-Core Cortex A15 architecture based CPU, LTE battery issues will be nothing to worry about.
For those that don't know what the difference is, I'll explain. The current iPhone 4S has a Dual-Core Cortex A9 based CPU which is manufactured using a 45nm process. Cortex A15 based CPU chips are manufactured using a 28-32nm process. These differences in size, although they may seem small, amount to HUGE differences in battery life. It is quite possibly, the difference between 2-4 hours more of battery life with the A15 based chip when compared to the A9 based chips.
Not to mention the fact that there are also manufacturing innovations for other parts that are also in the iPhone, for example, the next iPhone is rumored to be using a much more energy-efficient Broadcom dual-band Wi-Fi chip that is manufactured using a new 40nm process down from the old 65nm process. And the new LTE chips that is also rumored to be in the next iPhone will be significantly better at power management compared with LTE chips used last year/in early 2012.
And there's bound to be plenty more changes like this that will help to increase battery life. If you've been following Apple, you'd know that battery life is one of their highest priorities. Apple could have put LTE in the iPhone 4S last year, but instead chose to wait until LTE chips were more energy-efficient, because they'd rather stick with an older technology that consumes far less battery life rather than using a newer technology that sucks down battery life.
All of these things will add up to make the next iPhone VERY energy-efficient.
For those that don't know what the difference is, I'll explain. The current iPhone 4S has a Dual-Core Cortex A9 based CPU which is manufactured using a 45nm process. Cortex A15 based CPU chips are manufactured using a 28-32nm process. These differences in size, although they may seem small, amount to HUGE differences in battery life. It is quite possibly, the difference between 2-4 hours more of battery life with the A15 based chip when compared to the A9 based chips.
Not to mention the fact that there are also manufacturing innovations for other parts that are also in the iPhone, for example, the next iPhone is rumored to be using a much more energy-efficient Broadcom dual-band Wi-Fi chip that is manufactured using a new 40nm process down from the old 65nm process. And the new LTE chips that is also rumored to be in the next iPhone will be significantly better at power management compared with LTE chips used last year/in early 2012.
And there's bound to be plenty more changes like this that will help to increase battery life. If you've been following Apple, you'd know that battery life is one of their highest priorities. Apple could have put LTE in the iPhone 4S last year, but instead chose to wait until LTE chips were more energy-efficient, because they'd rather stick with an older technology that consumes far less battery life rather than using a newer technology that sucks down battery life.
All of these things will add up to make the next iPhone VERY energy-efficient.
I would care, but since we won't have LTE in the UK until 2014 or some such rubbish, I don't.
To me, a LTE iPhone just means worse battery life, and if I end up with an iPhone 5, I hope that I will be able to turn it off.
To me, a LTE iPhone just means worse battery life, and if I end up with an iPhone 5, I hope that I will be able to turn it off.
These are the arguments I've been trying to make for a while, but people just keep saying "OMG BIGGER SCREEN, FASTER PROCESSOR AND LTE MEANS NO BATTERY". People only know what they have seen other manufacturers create, not Apple
I care. The 3G networks on AT&T and Verizon around my office get ~0.1kbps speeds, or just time out all data calls, making them extra useless (including standing in the parking lot unobstructed with 3-4 signal bars, on iPhones, mobile hotspots, Androids, etc.). Swamped tower, saturated spectrum, whatever... it sucks. LTE is working great on my iPad and mobile hotspot. I'm really looking forward to having that on my iPhone too so I don't have to power up the hotspot just to check an email or see a hedgehog on cuteoverload.com.
Nope. Stop assuming that your preferences are universal no matter what the topic. Not sure why this is such a rampant issue. People have differing needs/wants/preferences. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp. Just look around and observe the world around you some time.
These are the arguments I've been trying to make for a while, but people just keep saying "OMG BIGGER SCREEN, FASTER PROCESSOR AND LTE MEANS NO BATTERY". People only know what they have seen other manufacturers create, not Apple
Exactly. Other manufactures just want to rush to market the next big thing even if it means it will make another part of the device not as great and in this case, it was the first generation LTE chips and they offered a new, big feature at the expense of battery life.
Apple isn't other manufactures. They wait for things to be refined. They don't change just for the sake of change, or to be the first to market a new feature. This is exactly what they've done with the next iPhones rumored design. It's a refined design and people are disappointed because they aren't like other manufacturers and didn't change it just for the sake of change.
I think very few people who say they need LTE actually truly do need it. In a matter of five years (or less for some) people have become attached at the hip to their smartphones. The fact that LTE will make your work marginally faster likely doesn't mean you need the speed. Let's get real people.
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View the other side of the coin here... there would be absolutely no refining if somebody didn't adopt the first gen chip.
FWIW most of the disappointment comes from the elongated screen. In fact, most of the concern (that I am seeing) is basically that people feel this IS change for the sake of change. You stretched the screen. Whoopee! Pretty much the definition of change for the sake of change, unless of course we get some killer feature that nobody is really anticipating.
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View the other side of the coin here... there would be absolutely no refining if somebody didn't adopt the first gen chip.
FWIW most of the disappointment comes from the elongated screen. In fact, most of the concern (that I am seeing) is basically that people feel this IS change for the sake of change. You stretched the screen. Whoopee! Pretty much the definition of change for the sake of change, unless of course we get some killer feature that nobody is really anticipating.