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Let's Get Real: Who CARES About LTE?
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The netflix specs said 1080p streaming runs at 8mbps which is 1MB/s. Still 50% of what you said. The 0.25 MB/s I quoted was for regular streaming. For 720p I'd expect somewhere around the 5 Mb/s quoted in the specs. Again, less than half of the number you quoted.
When I said too much data, I was referring to bandwidth, not file size. Considering AT&T is just now allowing facetime over cellular, do you think they would allow HD 1080p streaming?
Are you serious?
Try dating or something else to occupy your time. I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't rip you for what you like doing, but it just amazes me at what people think is "light" usage.
This post is beyond belief, but it's clear that I will not change your mind about what light usage is. Let's put it this way, what you call "light" is what 99.9% of all users would call "very heavy" data usage.
As for your x-box example...well, that would be another stratosphere of usage and nerdiness for that matter.
50% of what I said, and 400% of what you said. So if we're playing strictly by "Netflix, Suggested, Specifications" (ever try to run a computer game at "Suggested Specs"? It isn't pretty), then I sure as hell was a lot closer to a realistic figure than you.
Yea, I know what bandwidth is. And no, they probably wouldn't permit it ... because then customers would be complaining that their 1080P Netflix movie ate up their 2Gb data in 36 minutes (2048 /1 megaBYTE per second / 60 seconds * 60 minutes). You can't refute the facts you have provided!
I have that itch as well... I am going to fill it by picking up a GS3 and using it during the return period before the new iPhone comes out.
I will be giving my 4S to my GF, so hopefully doing things this way will allow me to maximize the amount I get out of my old iPhone 4 (she is using it now).
I have a Sprint iPhone 4S for work, there are plenty of times where it is so slow I can't even stand to use it.
I JB it TetherMe to use with my iPad on the go, I have not used it very much. I look forward to Sprint gaining LTE on a later version of the iPhone.
I dont really care because my 3G is pretty fast. It would be nice to have a faster speed but not absolutely necessary for me. Besides, I have a friend who has the 4G LTE and it sucks battery juice so fast. Not sure if it's cuz of 4G but left a bad taste in my mouth.
I think there was some report that 95 percent of mobile users use under 3gb a month, so no, 3gb a day is not light usage.
Yeah, that was the logic behind cutting unlimited data. It saved most people money and those 5% of users using more than 3gb a day were using an insane amount of data. Someone on here the other day said they were a light user only using 50-60 gb a month. I was thinking "wtf, that is insane"
I quoted standard definition specs. Not HD. I did so because it netflix doesn't stream 1080p. Making it a moot point.
Secondly, you will never be able to stream 1080p netflix without LTE, as I outlined earlier. Thus, who needs LTE? Well, since you want to stream 1080p netflix to your "super-HD" iPad....you need LTE.
Yes, Netflix does stream in 1080P. The Apple TV is one device. I can't speak for others, but I know they're out there. Google it yourself for a list, so it's not a moot point. This discussion isn't necessarily limited to a sole device, but LTE and the network functionality. iPad support is coming very soon, per Netflix's press release in the Spring.
And yes, you could stream 1080P without LTE, if we are going by your/Netflix theoretical specs. If it only requires 8megaBITS/s, where HSPDA+ can provide 14.4megaBITS/s down.
Sorry bud but that's simply wrong. You cannot equate using Sling for an hour to browsing the web, email, etc for an hour. A more appropriate comparison would be that you could use sling for an hour or browse the web for a few days. Do everything else except use Sling for the entire month and I doubt you'd come anywhere near 3 GB.
This may be light use for you but, not for the vast majority.
That IS insane...
I thought I was using it heavy when I had unlimited data only to realize I was well under 2 GB... so I lowered my plan to save $60 a year.
I think you misunderstood me. Did you not read the link I provided? Netflix doesn't stream 1080p to the iPad and iPhone. If it didn't stream 1080p period, why would they provide bandwidth requirements for 1080p streaming. In this case, its important to understand the context of the sentence.
I was not saying it doesn't stream 1080p at all. I was saying it doesn't stream 1080p over cellular networks. Again, context.
14.4 is theoretical peak. Don't be naive. Suggested specs and theoretical maximums are very different.
Second, you forgot about AT&T is just now allowing Facetime over cellular. I said this earlier. If they're just now allowing Facetime over cellular, do you really think they would allow 1080p streaming?
We're really just moving in circles here.
With all the activity this thread has gotten, it should have had a poll question... to see how many people agreed and disagreed with the OP
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I agree with you, there is no way netflix would stream 1080p over cellular. They are not stupid... that would slaughter someone's data usage.
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I agree with you, there is no way netflix would stream 1080p over cellular. They are not stupid... that would slaughter someone's data usage.
Actually, my point was that without LTE it wouldn't be possible to get a good enough connection to maintain a 1080p stream. I agree that it would also eat through the data (1 of the OP's points). But LTE is needed in order to stream 1080p (contrary to one of the OP's points).
Yes, when I worked at Best Buy, someone needed to have a 5-6 Mbps connection for HD streaming... An AT&T iPhone 4S could achieve that.
ADDITIONAL: So, yes, one would not need LTE to achieve this.
That's 720p. Not 1080p which is what the OP wants to play on his "super HD" iPad. 8 Mb/s is necessary for 1080p. While regular HSPA might theoretically peak out at 14.4 mbps, real world usage is lower. Lower enough that its understandable that Netflix wouldn't rely upon it for streaming. HSPA+ might be enough, depends upon AT&T and netflix, however that still leaves out Verizon who doesn't deploy that technology. Hence the need for LTE.
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Link and Link. The second link is to AVSForum. If you want to argue speeds, go try it with them. They also provide links and quotes to Netflix's twitter account for help with the speeds.
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Either way, not being above 10 Mbps leaves one more prone to frequent buffering with 1080p streaming...
I suggest you check this article out to see what actual download speeds are at.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mobile-att-win-top-honors-in-pc-world-speed-test-report/
Here's a quote:
That's enough for regular streaming, but not HD. You rarely ever get the theoretical maximum download speed, usually only a fraction of it.
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I had my Galaxy S3 for a month and dumped my comcast connection and got the unlimited $30 mobile hotspot from Verizon. Between all the devices in my house and useage i was up to about 24gb used before i switched back to the 4s a few days ago.
Once the 5 comes out and has LTE i will sign back up for the mobile hotspot again...No brainer in my case. $24 after my discount, compared to $68 that comcast charges...Plus with LTE i was averaging 30d and 15up...that smoked my comcast
Once the 5 comes out and has LTE i will sign back up for the mobile hotspot again...No brainer in my case. $24 after my discount, compared to $68 that comcast charges...Plus with LTE i was averaging 30d and 15up...that smoked my comcast
Sorry, I missed that.
Cuz Netflix says you need 8... well, when you have 5-6 and are streaming 720p, you can still get some buffering throughout because your internet connection will periodically slow every now and then... if you are above 10 Mbps... you a slightly less likely to drop below 8 long enough for the need to buffer again (for 1080p)
An estimate
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I had my Galaxy S3 for a month and dumped my comcast connection and got the unlimited $30 mobile hotspot from Verizon. Between all the devices in my house and useage i was up to about 24gb used before i switched back to the 4s a few days ago.
Once the 5 comes out and has LTE i will sign back up for the mobile hotspot again...No brainer in my case. $24 after my discount, compared to $68 that comcast charges...Plus with LTE i was averaging 30d and 15up...that smoked my comcast
30 Down is not bad at all... I can see why you would drop comcast... I have 100 Mbps from Charter, I usually get 70-90 though...
ADDITIONAL: I do not need it, but with my roommate... and streaming, gaming, and downloading, it is SOOO nice to have.