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LG Panel owners - calibrate your screens

aCuria said:
Interestingly, the color ramp looks perfectly fine in windows, both calibrated and uncalibrated.

The saturation pales in comparison to my ips monitors though =/

Something weird is going on here.
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I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.
 
penguintri said:
I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.
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dont delude yourself. they are all TNs. (MB/MBP/MBA)
 
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aCuria said:
penguintri said:
I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.
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dont delude yourself. they are all TNs. (MB/MBP/MBA)
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Haha thats right. Got mixed up! Is it just lower quality displays in the air due to thiness then producing this lack of saturation?
 
penguintri said:
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Haha thats right. Got mixed up! Is it just lower quality displays in the air due to thiness then producing this lack of saturation?
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I have no idea. They are surely of lower quality, but I don't know if its "due to thinness" of if apple is simply trying to cut on costs.

I think comparisons to the 2010 MBA is in order, but I don't have one at hand.

edit: anantech says the 13" samsung is of higher quality than the 2010 13"
 
penguintri said:
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Haha thats right. Got mixed up! Is it just lower quality displays in the air due to thiness then producing this lack of saturation?
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The Pro has always had a higher quality screen than the Air.
 
Just another hint: For adjusting the RGB Gamma Values without tools. Use that website.

It helped me to get the best out of my Dell 2209Wa (I changed the gamma values in the windows/nvidia graphics driver).

And I will use this site again, when my MBA 13" will ship on 11th August (out of stock till then)

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php
 
realrudi said:
Just another hint: For adjusting the RGB Gamma Values without tools. Use that website.

It helped me to get the best out of my Dell 2209Wa (I changed the gamma values in the windows/nvidia graphics driver).

And I will use this site again, when my MBA 13" will ship on 11th August (out of stock till then)

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php
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Thanks for posting this

This verifies that the profile i posted in the first post of this thread, OP, has the correct gamma settings for the LG screen. Or at least for my screen.

If people want a correctly calibrated screen they should use this profile, providing there isn't a manufacturing variation across LG screens.
 
penguintri said:
I've noticed a lack of saturation compared to my 13 inch pro's IPS. Everything seems a bit more dull. Is this just due to the pro's IPS being a higher quality display than the airs TN display?

I've tried calibrating and been unable to create a profile with more vivid colours without losing lots of detail in dark areas to black.
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This is normal. I moved from a Pro to a 2010 MBA, and noticed the same thing.
 
TheRealDamager said:
This is normal. I moved from a Pro to a 2010 MBA, and noticed the same thing.
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Ah good to know. Been spending ages to trying to create a profile that enhances the colours without sacrificing another aspect of the image quality but keep going back to the default.

Its slightly annoying seeing the vivid colours on my pro. However, I easily prefer the muted colours than having to use the lower ppi macbook pro screen. Absolutely love the higher resolution air screen!
 
penguintri said:
Ah good to know. Been spending ages to trying to create a profile that enhances the colours without sacrificing another aspect of the image quality but keep going back to the default.

Its slightly annoying seeing the vivid colours on my pro. However, I easily prefer the muted colours than having to use the lower ppi macbook pro screen. Absolutely love the higher resolution air screen!
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Indeed, low resolution is a deal breaker

I have some suspicions (wild guess) that the back light is to blame for the poor saturation. If the gamut of light the backlight produces is small, then the range of colors that the screen can display will suffer too
 
aCuria said:
I have another calibration file for the 6500k white point. I would recommend this profile over the other one.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Color Profiles/6500k mba.icm
For LG screen, 13" MBA2011
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I like this profile. When full brightness, the contrast seems correct. It is also keeps the whites good at 50% brightness.

This leads me to my question...

If I'm doing something where colours matter (editing pictures, for example), should I be doing that at full brightness?
 
aCuria said:
For anyone interested, here is a hardware calibrated profile for the 13" LG Phillips display using the spyder 3.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21137544/Benchmarks and pictures/Macbook Air/MBA Monitor 8-2-11 2

Native white point used,

The gives a better color separation on the color ramps, but doesnt increase the range of visible colors.
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I tried this one, its very good, and the only one that worked out for me.
However the colors a pretty strong. Could you slightly reduce the intensity? Because then it would be perfect.

Thanks
 
aCuria said:
Interestingly, the color ramp looks perfectly fine in windows, both calibrated and uncalibrated.
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Just got my MBA 2011 recently and noticed that the display was just dull and lacked color compared to all the previous Windows notebooks and computers that I have owned.

I installed Windows using Bootcamp and the display and colors looks much better and alive compared to when booting into Mac, pretty much like my old Windows computers.

Is it just me or do others notice this as well?

I have the LG display and tried calibrating using SuperCal and it does look better I think then the default Color LCD profile.

Does anybody know if the 'sRGB IEC61966-2.1' color profile in the Mac is the same as the Windows 7 default color profile? I've changed it to that and it seems to look alot better than both the Mac default color profile and my calibrated SuperCal color profile.
 
How do you know which monitor you have?

theSeb said:
To check what display model it is type the following in terminal

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

LT = samsung
LP = LG
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Apologies for being dim wittet, not used to Terminal so wanted to check as I was expecting two letter answer! If the thing that comes out begins with LT, the monitor is Samsung and LP it's LG? i.e. if you get LTH13....this means your monitor is Samsung. :confused: Thanks in advance
 
Just got back from the Apple Store...

I went to the Apple Store today because I was thinking about considering playing the lottery (I have an LG screen but with Samsung SSD) and I was hoping they had a floor 13" with a Samsung panel I could look at.

They had two floor model 13" MBAs and so I pushed them side by side and compared them and after looking at them for a while, I could not really tell the difference between the two. Neither are as good as my 2010 15" MBP but both are pretty good.

I did notice the Samsung didn't appear to display black as well as the LG. I'd say like 5% better and the Samsung looked a little bit better on the whites maybe, by like 5%.

Text on both was very similar and I couldn't tell that much difference between the non white/black colors. Overall, I liked the way the LG looked better to be honest. I took a few pictures with my phone (URL below) but I don't think they are very good (obviously with a phone you don't get super fantastic shots and plus the lighting might have been a bit off-I tried playing around with the HDR setting but I started to get weird looks so I just put the MBAs back and left.)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66113998@N04/sets/72157627255172027/

I won't play guessing games with you-the one on the left is the LG. Again, the pics didn't come out as well as I'd hoped, but overall the panels are very very similar. Very difficult to to tell them apart when viewed side by side (at least to my eyes) but if I had to pick one that was better looking, I'd have to go with the LG. If you choose some of the calibrations found in this thread, I think you can make it look even better.

My $.02. YMMV
 
tekksan, thanks for posting...

They do kinda look similar...

Anyways, I used the built-in Mac calibration tool and seem to get nice results, slightly more on the blue-ish side (colder), which i prefer over the more yellow (warmer) default calibration.
 
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