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LG UltraFine 5K Display 'Currently Unavailable' From Apple

SwiftLives said:
Personally, I'm enjoying the false hope this is giving me that Apple will release a consumer-level display instead of partnering with another company.
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Yep, get ready for disappointment. Like if macOS Catalina could morph into a 5k display.
 
Probably because I have sent back 3 because they are crap, and I can't get out of the cycle because I paid with gift cards. Each one I have received either has vertical lines, yellow tint on one of the edges or something. Maybe my email to the top levels of Apple worked so they investigate LG for their horrible quality control. It could be a nice monitor if LG did some damn quality control.
 
I still don't understand why Apple didn't update the Thunderbolt 27" display with the 5K (5120 x 2880) panel from the 27" iMac. Didn't the 27" Cinema Display (and later the Thunderbolt model) use the same panel as found in the iMac at that time? Must not be worth the engineering costs to do so.
 
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sirozha said:
I have designed a 27” 5K @60Hz monitor with the same LG panel as the one used in the 27” LG UltraFine. It uses one cable connection from the Mac via a USB-C-to-DP cable and is capable of supplying power to the MacBook via a special cable with the PD USB-C tap. The power to the Mac can be supplied from the monitor or from the Mac’s USB-C power brick via the same cable used for sending video signal to the monitor. It’s is not a Thunderbolt Display. Instead, for 5K video, the DP1.4 port is used in the monitor. For 4K @60Hz video, there are two HDMI 2.0 ports for two displays. There’s also a USB-C port for 4K @60 Hz. There can be up to four sources connected simultaneously to this monitor: three 4K @60Hz and one 5K@60Hz.

The price is $699 (including drop shipping from China with A 7-day shipping service). The monitor doesn’t have a camera or speakers.

The picture quality is fantastic, and is exactly the same quality when compared side-by-side with the LG UltraFine. The monitor goes to sleep together with the Mac and wakes up properly. It works properly with the Mac with the open lid and with the closed lid (clamshell).

I have completed the testing phase of the prototypes and ready to start mass manufacturing. Is there any interest in such a monitor?
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Hello! Could you talk more about that? =)
 
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SwiftLives said:
Personally, I'm enjoying the false hope this is giving me that Apple will release a consumer-level display instead of partnering with another company.
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They buy so many panels from LED to mini and micro LEDs.

How difficult is it to slap one together?
Sure Apple would rather have you buy an iMac, but think about how many displays they’d sell to Mac mini owners alone.
 
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They buy so many panels from LED to mini and micro LEDs.

How difficult is it to slap one together?
Sure Apple would rather have you buy an iMac, but think about how many displays they’d sell to Mac mini owners alone.
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For sure! You set an excellent example! Mac Mini users love an affordable 5k monitor! Can you share a photo / video of the evolution of your 5K monitor project? The price you got is really good !!
 
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satchmo said:
They buy so many panels from LED to mini and micro LEDs.

How difficult is it to slap one together?
Sure Apple would rather have you buy an iMac, but think about how many displays they’d sell to Mac mini owners alone.
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Mac share in the Apple‘s overall sales and earnings is almost negligible. They are not interested in making a display. I waited for Apple for years and finally decided to start manufacturing my own design budget 5K display.
 
satchmo said:
They buy so many panels from LED to mini and micro LEDs.

How difficult is it to slap one together?
Sure Apple would rather have you buy an iMac, but think about how many displays they’d sell to Mac mini owners alone.
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They buy so many panels from LED to mini and micro LEDs.

How difficult is it to slap one together?
Sure Apple would rather have you buy an iMac, but think about how many displays they’d sell to Mac mini owners alone.
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satchmo said:
They buy so many panels from LED to mini and micro LEDs.

How difficult is it to slap one together?
Sure Apple would rather have you buy an iMac, but think about how many displays they’d sell to Mac mini owners alone.
Click to expand...

For sure! You set an excellent example! Mac Mini users love an affordable 5k monitor! Can you share a photo / video of the evolution of your 5K monitor project? The price you got is really good !!
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sirozha said:
Mac share in the Apple‘s overall sales and earnings is almost negligible. They are not interested in making a display. I waited for Apple for years and finally decided to start manufacturing my own design budget 5K display.
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I confess that a good era of Apple hardware ended at the time that the Apple Thunderbolt Display was discontinued, unfortunately!
 
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sirozha said:
I have designed a 27” 5K @60Hz monitor with the same LG panel as the one used in the 27” LG UltraFine. It uses one cable connection from the Mac via a USB-C-to-DP cable and is capable of supplying power to the MacBook via a special cable with the PD USB-C tap. The power to the Mac can be supplied from the monitor or from the Mac’s USB-C power brick via the same cable used for sending video signal to the monitor. It’s is not a Thunderbolt Display. Instead, for 5K video, the DP1.4 port is used in the monitor. For 4K @60Hz video, there are two HDMI 2.0 ports for two displays. There’s also a USB-C port for 4K @60 Hz. There can be up to four sources connected simultaneously to this monitor: three 4K @60Hz and one 5K@60Hz.

The price is $699 (including drop shipping from China with A 7-day shipping service). The monitor doesn’t have a camera or speakers.

The picture quality is fantastic, and is exactly the same quality when compared side-by-side with the LG UltraFine. The monitor goes to sleep together with the Mac and wakes up properly. It works properly with the Mac with the open lid and with the closed lid (clamshell).

I have completed the testing phase of the prototypes and ready to start mass manufacturing. Is there any interest in such a monitor?
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If you want to see how much interest there is, one option would be to put it on Kickstarter.
 
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Man, I wish an Apple display, like the Current iMac 27”, 5k, stand @$2k add nano tech for $500 more. I’ll buy two.
Love the XDR but @ $7k (stand/nano) it’s too much.
 
sirozha said:
I am doing it already. The campaign hasn’t been activated yet.
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You should also mention it on this thread:
forums.macrumors.com

The subpixel-AA debacle and font rendering

Unfortunately, for me, after having experienced the superb crispness of subpixel antialiased and subpixel positioned text on Linux using a 1440p display, I have now made Linux my main operating system for browsing, emails, and reading pdfs. I will retain OS X with Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop...
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None of the OS's after High Sierra offer native subpixel anti-aliasing. As a consequence, if you want text to look sharp on an external monitor, and you are using Mojave or later, you need it to have "retina" pixel pitch (~220 ppi) which, in the 27" size, means 5k.

So if you could really offer a reliable, good-quality 27" retina monitor at that price, I think there would be a lot of interest, especially since the percent of Macs able to drive 5k continues to increase as older models (which can't drive it) are replaced with newer ones that can.

Macs that can drive a 5k:


Use the LG UltraFine 5K Display with your Mac or iPad - Apple Support

Learn about the LG UltraFine 5K Display and how to use it with your Mac or iPad.
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sirozha said:
Mac share in the Apple‘s overall sales and earnings is almost negligible. They are not interested in making a display. I waited for Apple for years and finally decided to start manufacturing my own design budget 5K display.
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While the second sentence seems to be true, the first is an exaggeration. Out of Apple's five divisions (iPhone, Services, Mac, iPad, Wearables), the Mac div ranks no. 3 in revenue. Macs make up about 10% of Apple's sales, a bit more than either the iPad and the Wearables divisions (Watch, AirPods, HomePods, etc.) division. And 10% of a company's revenue isn't "almost negligible" -- it's not like it's 0.5%, say.
 
SwiftLives said:
Personally, I'm enjoying the false hope this is giving me that Apple will release a consumer-level display instead of partnering with another company.
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Yes, I too want a consumer Apple Monitor.

I have currently an LG 27UL850-W. Though it does ok..it is not an Apple grade monitor. I tried the 4K LG Ultra-fine monitor that Apple sells...but it did not move me to keep it and I returned it.

Both the LG offerings from Apple are ok..but not even close to the quality of my old Cinema and Thunderbolt displays by Apple and not justifiable in price to buy the LG Ultra-fine monitors Apple sells. Speakers "suck" and can't pay $1.400 for the 27" with crappy speakers.

If Apple just takes a 5K imac and converts it to a display and call it a day, that could sell. If they reduce the bezzel on the bottom that would be a plus. Not hard to do, including no R&D costs, profits would be high (Apple price point of $1,300).

Would LOVE the current Apple Monitor, but way to far from the average Apple spender at $6,000.

But wishful thinking..Apple is probably is just "out of stock" due to the Corona Virus and supplies (shipping-especially by Air) is now limited.
 
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When I got my 2020 13” MBP I wanted one of these to go with it but couldn’t find it in stock anywhere. Ended up getting a Dell u2720q (4K with usb-c ports and power distribution) for under $500 and have been really happy with it even though it isn’t quite 2x retina At 2560x1440 scaled. Mac OS has come a long way in scaling capabilities.
 
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The cheapest 5K iMac is $1799. Surely Apple could sell 5K displays with the same panel for $1299-1499. If they did that I would buy two to have on either side of my iMac. The display on the 5K iMac has great color, brightness, and calibration straight out of the box. Does it have the blackest blacks? No. But it's great for most work.

Just had a thought and looked it up and it seems like the current 5K iMac can't drive two 5K displays in addition to the built-in one. Even with my Vega 48 which is fairly decent. Dang. But I'd still buy one Apple 5K display. My LG 4K display can't compare to the iMac, especially since I upscale it to 5K so the UI scaling matches across desktops. I don't do any critical design or photography work on that display, but it's still annoying that it doesn't quite match. The colors are more flat and the contact is low. It was advertised as HDR but it really isn't. I got a real HDR TV in January (LG C9) and it blows this away, not just because it's OLED but the brightness peaking is what kills it. Hopefully Apple keeps making the iMac Pro because I'd like to buy a redesigned version with an Apple CPU several years down the road and maybe by then Apple will make 5K (or even 6K) displays that are reasonably priced (only a thousand or two, lol).
 
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FWIW, at the beginning of the Pandemic I tried ordering one and had to wait until June for it. So it may very well be supply chain constraints.
 
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