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Took a while to notice, it's been like that for months as I know as I'm waiting to but one - I could go miles and pick one up, but I can wait.

The store representative told me that they are out of stick as only key items are being stocked at the moment, and they will be back in stork at some point, but they wouldn't be able to give me a definitive timeline.
 
This monitor has been discontinued by LG:

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It is no longer listed with its current Ultrafine monitors:

And is instead listed with the discontinued monitors:

That would seem to be the most likely explanation for why it is no longer on Apple's site.

There is no replacement model listed.


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#3: I understand Apple uses this monitor's panel in its 27" iMac, so it would make sense Apple was involved in the panel design. But what role did Apple have in designing the monitor itself? Do you have reference for this?

#4: The display isn't sold exclusively through Apple. It's sold by both B&H and Best Buy:

You're looking at the 27MD5KB - the other one is the 27MD5KL


The L is the one that Apple are selling on the store - the B has been discontinued
 
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You're looking at the 27MD5KB - the other one is the 27MD5KL


The L is the one that Apple are selling on the store - the B has been discontinued
Ah, you're right -- the one listed as discontinued on LG's website is the older version of that monitor.

And I was able to find the 27MD5KL-B on LG's site -- it was just not displayed with the other UltraFines. So I'll delete my earlier post, since the info. it contained was incorrect. Thanks for catching that.

 
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It is listed, just not as obvious as you would think it would be - I suspect personally that Apple have reserved all rights to sell this device, and that's why it's not listed clearly on the LG site, but rather on the drop down from Computer Products and then hover over Monitors.

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It is listed, just not as obvious as you would think it would be - I suspect personally that Apple have reserved all rights to sell this device, and that's why it's not listed clearly on the LG site, but rather on the drop down from Computer Products and then hover over Monitors.

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Yeah, I found it using a google site search: site:lg.com 27MD5KL-B

I don't think B&H or BestBuy would sell the product without being authorized dealers. So I don't think it's strictly Apple-only.

Anyways, given that it is available from LG, it is curious it is no longer available from Apple. Maybe Apple is waiting for LG to send them another container (assuming Apple uses its own warehouses for this monitor, rather than just trans-shipping directly from LG). Or maybe something else is going on.
 
I find it hard to believe Apple was involved in the design of this display. The panel, maybe, but not the black monstrosity it is wrapped in.

On the other Mac related product design has been in a hole for the last six or seven years, so maybe it was.
 
I suspect that it's just currently unavailable due to COVID-19 supply problems, it's not exactly high on the selling list of goods, the 4K version is still there - I just want the 5K version but I can wait till it's back.

I'm guessing that Apple would have been consulted with the actual display, and the functionality of the monitor so that it integrates nicely with Apple products, the case was almost obviously designed by LG and matches other products that they sell.
 
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I find it hard to believe Apple was involved in the design of this display. The panel, maybe, but not the black monstrosity it is wrapped in.

On the other Mac related product design has been in a hole for the last six or seven years, so maybe it was.

If I remember correctly, Tim Cook said at the revealing of the LG monitors at an event some years ago that they had a hand in the design. Yes, probably not the actual physical design, but it is obvious that Apple told them what they wanted: minimal ports, simple (just plug-in), and gave them the code so all the configurations is done in the OS (except if you have a touch bar and you can adjust the brightness and audio volume from your MacBook pro's touch bar).

But the design...they probably just left it to LG. Apple probably told them: "Make it more sturdy than your regular "toys-R-us" plastic toy -cheap-thing, make it simple in design, packaging...well try not to make it not "too cheap-y looking" when you open it..instead of your usual PC monitor kid "car toy" type of opening, having to use a razor blade and risk cutting yourself to open the seal...

Unfortunately...they did not listen to the packaging option....you spend a grip of money on the monitors..but when you open it with the LG's cheap presentation (except that it is already put together - not like the other LG monitors) it make you think twice about spending the money and you reconsider (why did I buy this overpriced "Apple" sponsored product?

Jobs and Ive were "good" at getting rid of "buyers remorse" after spending a gip of money on an apple product. With Apple products, when you open it and take it out...you feel like you bought an expensive jewelry or a Ferrari. But...with LG products...you feel like you bought it at Toys-R-Us.
 
Maybe, just maybe... if there's a completely new iMac around, Apple may release the corresponding display as a stand-alone product thus replacing the LG.
 
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When you're sat at a desk working on one of these, you really don't notice that design. You do however notice the screen quality which is excellent.

Y'know what really annoys me though? You can't play TV app films on there in 4K from a laptop. Some DRM thing probably, but maxes out at 1080p. Really annoys me.
 
What I find even stranger is that the iPad pros are unavailable everywhere. This is a product released months ago and it’s impossible to find - even during their back to school promo. Order one online, it’s end of August delivery.

I’d say major supply issues when your customers can’t buy your latest devices.
 
sounds like a good monitor
though would rather spend the $1300 on a new pc custom build
 
It's kind of crazy how little these HiDPI screens have caught on among manufacturers. I really thought there would be a lot more 5K options right now, I'd personally love a larger 5K monitor like in 30-32" to replace my 24" 1920x1200 monitor.

I think the market (which includes PC users and gamers) has spoken and what it has said is that UHD (not even true 4k) is good enough, and 5k isn't worth the hassle caused by the additional bandwidth.

Several 5k displays from DELL, HP etc. have come and gone - and one assumes that if people had bought them in droves they wouldn't have "gone".

I've got a cheap 28in "4k" UHD sat next to my 5k iMac and the most obvious difference is that the colour reproduction isn't up to snuff - which has everything to do with the "cheap" and nothing to do with "4k." No, it's not quite as pin sharp as the 5k but it is very acceptable... and at 28" it is on the verge of being usable without scaling or pixel-doubling (if my eyeballs were 20 years younger and/or on a 30-32" screen I'd be running it at 1:1), whereas 5k wouldn't be.

5k is a niche for Mac users because MacOS - unlike Windows - has a fixed-size UI only available in 1x and 2x flavours, so it was a huge advantage that the 5k iMac was an exact pixel doubling of the original 1440p 27" iMac - whereas a 27" 4k display would give you a choice between eyestrain at x1, very chunky UI elements at x2 or non-integer scaling. In Windows - just crank up the scale to 150% on a 4k display and you're good. (To be fair, there are downsides on Windows with non-compliant apps and mixed-resolution multi screen setups - and modern iMacs have the grunt to handle 'scaled mode' smoothly).

Gamers (in general) would rather have a few extra FPS (and maybe a higher-refresh display) than a few more pixels, and the ability to plug in any old large-screen TV is a plus).

Serious graphics users will often stick to very expensive, colour calibrated displays that are only 1440p (let alone 4k) because colour accuracy can be more important than resolution (you can always zoom in to see detail, but if the colour information isn't there, you're stuffed).

The USP of 5k seems to be the ability to work on 1:1 4k content while still having space for controls, palettes etc... Or, just hang a cheap, large-screen TV off as a second screen and have a full-screen, distraction free preview instead... and that's assuming you're not working with lower res/quality proxy files which wouldn't really benefit from being shown 1:1. That's where the 6k XDR - coupled with hardware that don't need no stinking proxies - starts to sound worth the money.

Then there's the slow uptake of DisplayPort 1.4 - without which, moving from 4k to 5k means either two DP1.2 cables (and software support for MST displays) or Thunderbolt 3 (AFAIK TB 1/2 couldn't do 5k). Intel hasn't helped (AFAIK their iGPUs still don't support 1.4 and TB3 only added DP1.4 support fairly recently). My original feelings about 5k displays that relied on MST was that they wouldn't be long for this world, once true 5k DP1.4 displays appeared... Turns out I needn't have worried....
 
Yes, probably not the actual physical design, but it is obvious that Apple told them what they wanted: minimal ports

That's the give-away - virtually all other displays (except the cheapest HDMI jobbies) offer multiple input ports pf various types and the ability to switch between them (even if some of them fall back to 4k) - Apple's insistence on only one input port is one thing that's kept me away from their displays, even when they made them. I have other junk that I occasionally need to connect to a display...

Also, although it's not proof, the (purely cosmetic) "forehead" problem largely goes away if you imagine the display in an iMac body with a flat glass front (the black glass area on an iMac is actually slightly wider at the top - and the bezels have to be wider all the way round to accommodate the tapered edges). Also, if you remember, the early models had a RF interference problem that probably wouldn't have happened if they'd been in aluminium housings... Hmm...

It does all fit the theory that Apple were planning a 2016 Thunderbolt Display refresh with LG innards (...given that they couldn't otherwise have done that without an un-appley dual cable connection until they moved to TB3) and then bailed when it was time to tool up for making the casing... Of course, we'll never know unless someone leaks.
 
That image is driving me crazy. The sun is on the right but all the light is from the left.
It's a panorama, so imagine it wrapped 180-270° around you. I think panoramas almost always look weird on flat displays.
that image is all wrong, its meant to be Cape Town
and it looks like thisView attachment 938467

I looked at this image and thought it was familiar because I've visited this city often. I screenshot the image and flipped it myself to verify. Thinking I was the only such nerd I got excited when I saw curiosity about the image on the display in this thread and rushed to post my discovery only to discover that Azmazz already beat me to it. Today, as often happens recently, I am reminded I am not a unique snowflake. That said, they did an artificial sunflare as the sun is definitely setting on the other side of this mountain.
 

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Only bad thing about the LG is the apple-ish stuff. Only thunderbolt connectors, Laptops from other brands work - but it is hard to get a normal Linux workstation connected and show a 5K resolution.

Would be nice to have different connectors and at least Hdmi.
 
I own two of these monitors. They are terrific! Not sure why everyone is hating on them. In fact, name a monitor that is better under $3,000?

This monitor makes 4K monitors (of the same size) look pixelated.

Hopefully yours will remain terrific. I originally purchased 6 of these (3 offices) for dual use. All 6, just passed a year of use, developed issues. Susceptible to WiFi interference (known defect corrected in later batches). All 6 developed image retention and 2 a thin random vertical line. Often they have issues awakening after going to sleep requiring a reboot. Until March 2020, LG would repair them after warranty for a flat $150 fee. Now they refuse to directly repair them at all. They say these are “Apple” monitors. They tell you to go to a third party repair facility. The only one nearby has no clue as to how much they would charge until after a $70 revision fee is paid. This is why I hate them and LG.
 
#3: I understand Apple uses this monitor's panel in its 27" iMac, so it would make sense Apple was involved in the panel design. But what role did Apple have in designing the monitor itself? Do you have reference for this?

#4: The display isn't sold exclusively through Apple. It's sold by both B&H and Best Buy:

#3: It was in the original PR materials that Apple put out and a ton of websites re-hashed in their blog posts. I believe they even mentioned it in some keynote presentation at some point (but I could be wrong and I'm not going to re-watch to find out ;) ). To the extent Apple "helped" I have no idea, but I suspect it was extensive in every area except the panel itself. The connections, color adaptation/fidelity, FaceTime camera system, firmware/software, etc. is what I would imagine Apple played a part in, but only Apple itself can say.

#4: Perhaps I misstated what I meant. I didn't mean Apple is the only reseller of the UltraFine displays, I meant the LG UltraFine is the only 3rd party display Apple sells in their stores and online. They used to have a few different brands available in the stores (I'm talking years and years ago), and they never specifically recommended a product that they also offered a competing product for (such as the Cinema Displays).

The point of my post wasn't to debate display options for Apple products, but to refute the idea that an article like this doesn't belong on the homepage of Mac Rumors... which is ridiculous.
 
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