Depends on use cases, a lot of meerting happens over the zoom or skype with cameradepends how you use your machine. I've never once used the camera on my studio display.
Depends on use cases, a lot of meerting happens over the zoom or skype with cameradepends how you use your machine. I've never once used the camera on my studio display.
i'm sure there would we silution that woud allow you attach one at the back.I replaced my monitor recently, and the bezel is so thin there is no good way to attach a webcam. So what do you do on this bezel-less monitor?
Good - I want a DISPLAY not all that junk thrown in. 38" is way too big for a desktop monitor. 27-32 is the sweet spot. There's a reason Apple went to 6k for 32", it keeps the PPI at their required minimum.
I know it’s LG and they make very good quality displays. I’m really curious how much this one will cost because it could excellent fill the cap Apple left behind.Who do you think makes the xdr display?
(Spoiler: it’s LG)
I find this always funny because competitors seems to introduce their “copied” things long before Apple is able to introduce the hardware.“Picasso had a saying: ‘Good artists copy, great artists steal.’ And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.” (Steve Jobs 1996, Triumph of the nerds).
So please stop whinging about other companies copying Apple designs.
I think it in the miniLED ball park - Regular Full Array Local Dimming displays from the 2010s were typically limited to <100 "zones" by the size of the LEDs (on a 65" display). The XDR display has almost 600 zones (1-1.5 LEDs per square inch) - possibly not quite as high density as the latest TCL miniLED panels (4-5 LEDs per square inch), but still much higher than typical LED monitors.The xdr is not mini led
In fact this is likely either the exact same LG manufactured ips panel as the xdr or an improved one
It would not make sense at 38 inches losing its high PPI characteristicsIt looks awesome, but if it doesn't have webcam, speakers and microphones, means you will be running a bunch wires around making the desk look as average as with any other display. I hope it was 38 inches atleast
This is patently false. You clearly haven’t used a 6K+ display like Apple’s or Dell’s the past 5 years.218 PPI makes this display pretty much useless for Mac users because of atrociously incompetent scaling in macOS.
I still hope that some company will finally come out with a 5K 32” OLED.
Logitech made a Pro Display XDR webcam that connected to the top of the monitor far more elegantly with a magnet.I replaced my monitor recently, and the bezel is so thin there is no good way to attach a webcam. So what do you do on this bezel-less monitor?
Has anyone whinged about it? I think the points have been made that LG have unashamedly copied, but will hopefully provide a more affordable option. No one here cares that they copied, just that it’s finally happened that someone can match them after 5 years!“Picasso had a saying: ‘Good artists copy, great artists steal.’ And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.” (Steve Jobs 1996, Triumph of the nerds).
So please stop whinging about other companies copying Apple designs.
Logitech made a Pro Display XDR webcam that connected to the top of the monitor far more elegantly with a magnet.I replaced my monitor recently, and the bezel is so thin there is no good way to attach a webcam. So what do you do on this bezel-less monitor?
Given that Apple is just selling an LG/Samsung display, it's obvious to everyone else on this site that Apple adds a BS markup to everything they resell, whether it's SSD storage, RAM, or LCD panels.Do you have insider knowledge on pricing that hasn't been publicly announced yet?
I think it in the miniLED ball park - Regular Full Array Local Dimming displays from the 2010s were typically limited to <100 "zones" by the size of the LEDs (on a 65" display). The XDR display has almost 600 zones (1-1.5 LEDs per square inch) - possibly not quite as high density as the latest TCL miniLED panels (4-5 LEDs per square inch), but still much higher than typical LED monitors.
We agree that 5k is not worth the difference -- 80% more pixels to push for 20% reduction in pixel size. My 2020 iMac 27" struggled with 5k. 5k only exists because of macOS scaling and Apple's decision to make the hardware fit the software rather than the other way around. Nobody else uses it or cares about it. Same with the 6k in the 32" display.
I boot both my M4 Mini and PC to the desk Dell U2723QE 4k 27" monitor and there's definitely a difference and the presence of artifacts or moire if I use "looks like 1440p" on the Mac. And on Windows I mix this monitor with a second, 1080p 144Hz monitor, and Windows handles it without a hiccup. I don't bother with it on the Mac because low ppi displays look like garbage since Apple got rid of sub-pixel aliasing some years ago -- one has to wonder why.
What's really amazing is that LG managed to copy Apple's exact design, but in a way that actually allows for the consumer to choose between using the HAS or VESA mounting their monitor without having to buy a separate accessory or specify which option they want at the time of purchase.
You know, when the XDR came out with the requirement to separately purchase either the VESA adapter or the HAS, I figured that at least they did it so that however it is mounted, it would look seamless. It was (and is) still an incredibly stupid design, given that VESA mounting has been a long-since-solved problem, but it at least appears to be built to cater to the form-over-function tastes of its target prosumer market.Just shows how much Apple goes out of their way to not make things user friendly (without an additional purchase)
Pity that Apple's most loyal customers aren't anywhere among that group.I'm glad more and more folks are noticing how much Apple screws their customers
When the Apple Studio Display came out, however, all that went out the window. The VESA mount version of that monitor looks absolutely horrible. Between the idiotic non-removable power cable, the strikingly ugly VESA mount, and the mid-level webcam, the ASD is just the textbook example of a half-assed design made to cater to people who buy based on dubious specs and, of course, the logo.
I wouldn't bet on it being "way cheaper". LG's looks to be a rather high-end design with aluminum casing and no bezel.. unlike Dell's atrocious plastic design, with massive uneven bezels. I'd guess this will be priced at $4,995, with eventual discounts bringing it just under $4K.
The xdr is not mini led. In fact this is likely either the exact same LG manufactured ips panel as the xdr or an improved one
That was Apples famous line from Steve Jobs. And let’s hope the LG display comes with the stand included at a normal price 😊Unashamedly STOLE Apples Pro Stand. If you can’t beat them, copy them.
As Forrest Gump would say - "I think maybe its both. I think both is happunneng at the same time.."And this is from the company who takes FOREVER to design and release products, and we're always assuming it's because of their meticulous process and thorough attention to detail
...nah, Just slow, cheap and lazy these days
Apple has mastered the art of cultivating consumer elitism into stupid-high profit margins. If you can convince people that they belong to an elite group (even call them "professionals".. but please don't forget the quotes), then it only takes some very incremental product specifications (say, 5k instead of 4k resolution, 1000 nits of brightness instead of 400, and an aluminum body) to convince those people to open their wallets wide.They seem to spend most of their design time now on ways to extract more revenue per customer
Maybe ultrawide is a solution instead of classic 16:10 etc