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Ok, what sites would I have trouble with viewing flash video? Youtube is about 95 percent where I am at when watching videos and movies, as well as flash games + shockwave games, but exactly which sites would give me a problem?



If you use TextEdit to open the Flash Player executables (they should be in the MacOS folder inside the FP bundle) and you use the search and replace feature, you will see that there are several references to the plugin release. Do not alter them! I tried and Flash would not work anymore. I assume that the Adobe website reads the player version from those references, so you will not be able to fool it by changing the strings in the .plist and .rsrc files. Luckily this doesn't seem to be true for sites like Youtube, that will see your hacked FP as version 11.6
So you should still be able to use flash on most sites (but please, please be careful ;) ).
 
Well, considering that, at best, my use of the hacked Flash plugin can be defined as sporadic, I really can't answer that question. Sorry.
 
Well, as the only “non-Mac” Mac guy around these parts (I use Ubuntu on my Ppc Macs); I’ll weigh in with what I do. These are admittedly low tech solutions that match my skill level, but they work for me. There are two pieces of software in the repository called “gnash” and “gnash common”. They both come installed by default in the full blown Ubuntu 12.04 Ppc. Version, but if I’m not mistaken, you have to install them in Lubuntu 12.04 Ppc. (lightweight version). This is an open source flash player that will play most, but not all videos. On my wife’s G4 emac with a 1Ghz processor, the videos that do play are somewhat choppy and halting, but overall watchable. On my older G4 Graphics “Sawtooth” with a 450 Mhz. processor, they load up extremely slowly and play like a very ponderous slide show. I’ve always wondered how well they might play on a G5 or something with an upgraded processor.

Anyway, not having the patience for all that, I go a different route. I use Firefox as my browser and as most of you know, it has a ton of add-ons available. My favorite downloading tool is “Video Download Helper”. It will absolutely work on all Youtube videos as well as many others, although not all. Download time is about the same as running the video for the first time, but when done, you have a nice little MV4 file put safely away in a special file (automatically created). No hurky-jerkiness, no buffering, just a nice little video of very high quality resolution (depending on the quality of the recording, of course) that you can replay over and over. Though I've never taken the time to figure out how to do it, there is also supposed to be an option to stream a video via "VLC".

Would I prefer to be able to play videos directly through Flash? Sure. I’ve thought more than once about reloading 10.3 Panther on my wife’s emac and running one of the “retro-fit” browsers with Flash. But since she uses this for on-line banking, etc., I just don’t feel good about exposing it to all the inherent security risks. And I still have a stinging memory of that little beach ball spinning endlessly as my Mac got slower and slower telling me it was time for a complete re-installation of the OS. This has NEVER happened with Ubuntu.

I know I’m way outnumbered here, and far be it from me to try to persuade someone away from their pursuit of interest, but if in fact the window is closing on options for the powerpc Macs running "OS 10-whatever" that hasn’t been updated in how many years?, Ubuntu DOES offer an alternative with a modern OS that is updated regularly for security and bug fixes. And do I need to remind you that this is all free? Free as in Braveheart and free as in beer. I’m just sayin’…

This is a big reason I like Firefox
 
Ok, good news

Flash is working great!!! While it is identified as 11.6.602.167 under plugins, it still works as it should.. But really on my PB G4 1.67 I use quicktime, and on my G5 Quad I use flash.



Well, considering that, at best, my use of the hacked Flash plugin can be defined as sporadic, I really can't answer that question. Sorry.
 
Flash 11.7.700.203 is out. I updated the info.plist file in the first post.
 
Flash 11.7.700.203 is out. I updated the info.plist file in the first post.

Where do I have to put it. The info.plist for 10.5 worked for me and I did put the 7 thing there, too (replacing the old). But your info.plist has a white icon. My old info.plist has a grey icon with "exec" written in neon green in it and is described as "unix-executable file".
 
It should indeed have a white icon (and if you installed the developer tools it should have "PLIST" written in black on it).
It goes into /Users/_YOURUSERNAME_/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ClickToFlash.webplugin/Contents
 
It should indeed have a white icon (and if you installed the developer tools it should have "PLIST" written in black on it).
It goes into /Users/_YOURUSERNAME_/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ClickToFlash.webplugin/Contents

I did put it there. That's the same direction as I did put the 11.5 thing to. I also removed the 11.5 thing first. But Adobe still says I have 11.5 installed. I tested it here http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html

Ah, wait I did not put it in click-to-flash, because I do not have this installed. Hm, I guess than I have to stay at 11.5.something or install click-to-flash. Thanks!

I used this by the way http://scriptogr.am/nordkril/post/adobe-flash-11.5-for-powerpc
 
Someone has saved me the task of having to redo my 11.5 plugin. You can find 11.7 here: http://www.steelbin.com/FPforFBPPC.zip

ohh ffs!

I had 11.5 showing up (maybe yours?) but after installing that "11.7" the flash version checker page now states I'm using 11.1.102.55

boooh

Btw, I can just edit the files inside the flash player with some hex editor or something? Or do I need to download the intel flash and just replace the main flash player .rsc?
 
Hmm, that's weird - he said he'd updated his. You can always use mine as a fall-back. It's ont a complicated task at all - you just need to go in with a hex editor and replace the occurrences of 10.1 with 11.7. There's probably only a couple which actually matter, but I was a bit lazy and didn't bother to test for which ones these were. Instead I just replaced the whole lot - probably better for consistency anyway. If his isn't working I'll release an 11.7 in a week or two once I've finished finals.

If you do it yourself, be aware that there are many variations on 10.1 which you must replace (ie. 10,1 etc.).
 
Hmm, that's weird - he said he'd updated his. You can always use mine as a fall-back. It's ont a complicated task at all - you just need to go in with a hex editor and replace the occurrences of 10.1 with 11.7. There's probably only a couple which actually matter, but I was a bit lazy and didn't bother to test for which ones these were. Instead I just replaced the whole lot - probably better for consistency anyway. If his isn't working I'll release an 11.7 in a week or two once I've finished finals.

If you do it yourself, be aware that there are many variations on 10.1 which you must replace (ie. 10,1 etc.).

Ah, ok I was actually on the right path then :) If you get the time, please by all means, don't hesitate to do it :D

Take care
 
Camino is dead, and this makes the "[un]safety net" trick even more unsafe. Edited the first post to suggest the use of more modern browsers, instead.
 
Use Roccat browser with no fancy tricks or fake Flash versions and everything works great so far. Often view BBC site flash contents (though to be honest I don't look at much flash stuff) no problems.

Use Mactubes for Youtube.
 
Viewtube..

...is a greasemonkey script that ignores flash and uses a plugin (Quicktime on OS X, gnome Mplayer on Linux) to stream youtube and a few other sites like dailymotion. Yawn. Boring, right?

Well, some enterprising folks over at userscripts.org have begun to extend viewtube''s reach by modifying it. Viewtube plus for instance is a script uses the same concept and plugins to stream, lets just say, many other popular websites. I will leave it at that.

The Viewtube VLC script uses VLC's Firefox plugin, and is very fast in Linux. Like, it loads fast, plays the video right away (mplayer has to load 20% of the video into cache before it plays) and even plays high def streams (well, 720p, which mplayer's plugin chokes on) on a Dell 1.4 ghz running Linux Mint 12. I haven't tried it in OS X, but I suspect it would work decently on a fast Powerbook or G4/G5. If there is a VLC mozilla plugin for PowerPC macs, which I don't know if there is.

None of this replaces Flash completely, but if you have a PowerPC machine running OS X or Linux, you owe it to yourself and your 'puter to check out viewtube. Is good. Very good.
 
Use Roccat browser with no fancy tricks or fake Flash versions and everything works great so far. Often view BBC site flash contents (though to be honest I don't look at much flash stuff) no problems.

Use Mactubes for Youtube.
If you want a test:
- go to bonprix.de (shopping site) and look, if the pictures get a constant loading cycle or if you can see them
- go to sportschau.de and look, if they tell you, you need the newest flash for watching sports clips.
- go to http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php and see if it tells you a script is not answering.
- navigate through you Ebay account, everything smooth?
 
If you want a test:
- go to bonprix.de (shopping site) and look, if the pictures get a constant loading cycle or if you can see them
- go to sportschau.de and look, if they tell you, you need the newest flash for watching sports clips.
- go to http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php and see if it tells you a script is not answering.
- navigate through you Ebay account, everything smooth?

Well eBay is certainly fine, I'll test the other three when I get back.
What I like about Roccat is that it never crashes, its actively developed, it has iOS browsers which are linked via their cloud system to your PowerPC browser for syncing tabs etc. and it's fast. Also used their developers for an issue and their responses were almost be return and ended up giving me the new 3.4 version early as this solved the issue I was having (turned out to be a PPC specific menu rendering problem). I now use Roccat Connect on my iPhone and iPad and these are linked to my Roccat Browser on the G5 and MBP. How 'supported' do you want a PPC browser to be in 2013?
 
If you want a test:
- go to bonprix.de (shopping site) and look, if the pictures get a constant loading cycle or if you can see them
- go to sportschau.de and look, if they tell you, you need the newest flash for watching sports clips.
- go to http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php and see if it tells you a script is not answering.
- navigate through you Ebay account, everything smooth?

Reasonably happy to report that all the above sites work perfectly with the exception of sportschau.de where the spinning circle when the video loads just keeps spinning and no video actually shows.
 
If you want a test:
- go to bonprix.de (shopping site) and look, if the pictures get a constant loading cycle or if you can see them
- go to sportschau.de and look, if they tell you, you need the newest flash for watching sports clips.
- go to http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd_list.php and see if it tells you a script is not answering.
- navigate through you Ebay account, everything smooth?

Why were you on Bon Prix??
 
...is a greasemonkey script that ignores flash and uses a plugin (Quicktime on OS X, gnome Mplayer on Linux) to stream youtube and a few other sites like dailymotion. Yawn. Boring, right?

Well, some enterprising folks over at userscripts.org have begun to extend viewtube''s reach by modifying it. Viewtube plus for instance is a script uses the same concept and plugins to stream, lets just say, many other popular websites. I will leave it at that.

The Viewtube VLC script uses VLC's Firefox plugin, and is very fast in Linux. Like, it loads fast, plays the video right away (mplayer has to load 20% of the video into cache before it plays) and even plays high def streams (well, 720p, which mplayer's plugin chokes on) on a Dell 1.4 ghz running Linux Mint 12. I haven't tried it in OS X, but I suspect it would work decently on a fast Powerbook or G4/G5. If there is a VLC mozilla plugin for PowerPC macs, which I don't know if there is.

None of this replaces Flash completely, but if you have a PowerPC machine running OS X or Linux, you owe it to yourself and your 'puter to check out viewtube. Is good. Very good.

There is an old VLC plugin for Leopard, but I believe it only works in Firefox. For us that would mean TenFourFox, but TFF does not support plugins ... :(
Sooner or later I'm going to try this in Linux. The only reason I still didn't install it on my eMac is that I've been very busy in the past few months.

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Use Roccat browser with no fancy tricks or fake Flash versions and everything works great so far. Often view BBC site flash contents (though to be honest I don't look at much flash stuff) no problems.

Use Mactubes for Youtube.

While I don't regularly use Roccat, I admire its developers' dedication.
The problem with Roccat and most of the other Webkit based browsers is that out of the box they use the outdated, Apple supplied frameworks that came with Safari 5.0.6. This means that, even if the browser is regularly updated, its engine is not.
Fortunately there is an easy solution to this problem, and that is installing the stable release of Leopard Webkit (at the moment it is 536.28.8; series 537 is fine to use as a stand-alone application but it is known to cause stability problems if installed). This will make the frameworks inside L-W the new system default. Roccat and all the other Webkit based applications (Mail and Dashboard included) will get more secure and noticeably faster. You will also get a working fullscreen option when using html5 players.
As for Flash, even if you don't care about the security problems, it still performs poorly when compared to most of the alternatives. As Imixmuan said ViewTube is very good. Considering Roccat has native support for userscripts, you will only need a few clicks to try it in your favourite browser (even less if you use Geekmonkey to launch ViewTube as a bookmarklet).
 
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