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has anyone ever handled fiber optic cables? they sure as hell arent as durable as usb stranded copper. i could see the cables being a huge problem for uneducated users.
 
While I do appreciate the benefits on a single high bandwidth connector for a variety of uses, it's just that USB 3.0 is plentiful and I expect Apple to create it's own feedback loop of an ecosystem until Monoprice can sell the same thing for pennies.

I'll settle for a Light Peak to USB 3.0 Hub. One connector on my mac attaching to all my USB 3.0 devices. Hope this is how USB 3.0 is coming to the Mac.

Also... could you have a Light Peak SAN? Fibre lengths seem to be long enough (not as long as fibre channel though).
 
vapor ware? what are you talking about? its already released in some laptops, my new G53JW supports WiDi (all you need is a select couple of special intel wireless cards to support it)

http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/technology/wirelessdisplay.htm

even bestbuy, the crappiest place for computers has tons of models already supporting it

Yes I did find it, a bit pricy but still very cool for its first implementation. I am all for wireless but I still in my small monkey brain don't see it all been wireless because of security reasons, still who knows what the next 5 to 10 years will bring. :D
 
vapor ware? what are you talking about? its already released in some laptops, my new G53JW supports WiDi (all you need is a select couple of special intel wireless cards to support it)

http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/technology/wirelessdisplay.htm

even bestbuy, the crappiest place for computers has tons of models already supporting it
Best Buy is pushing their Blue Label notebooks with expanded support and WiDi standard on many models. It's limited to 720p and the latency in the demos I've seen is acceptable for video playback. It'll be better the next time around on Sandy Bridge.

I must admit the technology did come out of nowhere from Intel.
 
As far as I can tell, this isn't going to be like mDP. That said, mDP is rather nice, provided they live up to the standard of HD audio and daisy chaining that was laid out for it.

Regardless, this won't be another mDP because they're marketing it for everything; from displays to any peripherals to maybe even your keyboard (that would be amusing). As per the WiDi; yes, someday. However it should be noted that cables will always be around for those more intense circumstances (ie business, education, etc)-- the theoretical of LP is higher than WiDi, and is likely to reach that point much faster. Also the position of LP is going to be far easier than WiDi; its already in laptops yet who uses it?

EDIT: Wasn't there also talk of them bundling power into LP cables, just like USB?
 
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That won't happen. Just because you can connect multiple keyboards, mice, monitors, etc. doesn't mean the computer sees each as a separate user. We can already do this with DisplayPort & USB. The "many heads on one machine" is how old mainframe & mini computers worked, and the industry moved away from that to PCs.
Or you could just run M/PM under parallels on your Mac. Any Mac would be faster than what those things did. :D
 
LightPeak will be like any other I/O connection and will co-exist right alongside FW eSTATA and USB 3,0. Now, I will wait a couple months before buying the G-SAFE that I wanted, just to see if the price drops again. This is a great time to be into computers as things are really taking off. It won’t be too long before all things wired; go wireless at light-peak performance. This may be around the same time when the MacRumors server, loads a page in less than 2-minutes! :D
Regards,
Dan
 
whats the point? other than merging multiple ports into one.

what is the point of all that speed, what devices can use that amount of speed?
 
The article about Intel developing Light Peak contains words: Intel - 11 times, Apple - 11 times, DELL - 0 times, HP - 0 times. It also contains ridiculous statements like this: "If Apple implements Light Peak, it would be a safe bet that the company will have a lot to say about the technology--maybe with a catchy name in tow." Sure. Intel develops new technology and then asks Apple to name it. Unnamed sources. And all of this on a week when Steve Jobs sends the following e-mail: "We don’t see USB 3 taking off at this time. No support from Intel, for example." and Intel officially announces support for USB 3.0:

Intel recently notified its partner about its latest platform Chief River that adopts 22nm Ivy Bridge processors with native support of USB 3.0, according to sources from motherboard makers.


Coincidence? I think not.

Okay mr. conspiracy theorist
 
whats the point? other than merging multiple ports into one.

what is the point of all that speed, what devices can use that amount of speed?

If LightPeak is cheaper to include in computers than 10gb ethernet is, then, networks would most likely adopt this. Also, you could possibly include multiple hard drives in a single enclosure using one cable. You could either use both hard drives separately, or maybe the drive could come with a hardware RAID controller. Lots of possibilities, none of which are possible without something that fast.
 
What did Apple exactly say about Light Peak ?
My guess is they are just studying some new technology...
 
Outdated because it still uses a physical connector. Now there's WiDi aka WirelessHD, and it too is being promoted by Intel. Starts at 5GB/sec and has a theoretical max of 25GB/sec.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WirelessHD

So maybe LightPeak could be used with Mac Pros and iMacs and WiDi could be used on all Apple portables...

Correction: 5 Gbps and 25 Gbps - huge difference.

(5 GB is 5,000,000,000 bytes per second, 5 Gb is 625,000,000 bytes per second)
 
Hopefully Apple finds a way to sneak 'power over lightpeak' into the standard spec.
From what I read of lightpeak previously, it include copper wires alongside the fiber in order to provide power. So I think they've got it covered. They're not that stupid...
 
Hopefully Apple finds a way to sneak 'power over lightpeak' into the standard spec.

Otherwise it's nice, but won't replace USB3.

What makes you think that? I mean of course USB is awesome, widely adopted, and cheap to use for manufacturers. But there eventually has to be something that replaces it. I'm not saying that LightPeak is necessarily it, but no one can say for sure. I mean it's insanely faster than USB, will probably use a small connector, and can power devices. And if it's as cheap to use as USB for manufacturers, then I don't see how there isn't some kind of possibility it could replace USB.
 
While I do appreciate the benefits on a single high bandwidth connector for a variety of uses, it's just that USB 3.0 is plentiful and I expect Apple to create it's own feedback loop of an ecosystem until Monoprice can sell the same thing for pennies.

It's clear that you don't get Light Peak. Light Peak is designed to unify all these dissimilar busses. You could run USB 3 OVER Light Peak. You'll be able to do the same with SATA, FireWire and DisplayPort. Light Peak is literally the "one bus to rule them all." You'll be able to use existing tech, including USB 3.0, with Light Peak.
 
whats the point? other than merging multiple ports into one.
Merging multiple ports into one is a vary valid goal by itself. It may not be an issue for us techies, but for non-techies, having to pay attention to "my ethernet goes here", "my monitor goes there", "my printer goes here" is a pain in the backside. By being able to unify everything into one single plug, it doesn't matter anymore. They're all the same, just plug it anywhere.

what is the point of all that speed, what devices can use that amount of speed?
I'm sure we'll think of something. But the biggest one at the moment is video. Super hi-res on a big monitor eats up a LOT of bandwidth, which is why all such video cables currently have upwards of a dozen wires (they can sum up the bandwidth over multiple wires to get what they need). One HDMI cable has 10.2Gb/s bandwidth, for example.
 
whats the point? other than merging multiple ports into one.

what is the point of all that speed, what devices can use that amount of speed?

How about a 6TB SSD that backs everything up in 5-minutes or less. Moreover, systems will be designed and optimized for improved performance in ways we can't yet imagine. Example: High compression scanners, video storage content, and a slew of others' may benefit from smoother and more ‘efficient’ performance.
 
I'm an early adopter and when this comes out I'm gonna ADOPT like their's no tomorrow, I've always had a soft side for optical transmission :cool:
 
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