Probably the only good thing the EU has done in recent years!
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Lol don't mock me here, but i got my adaptor kit ready for USBC only world.
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Nice. I have a usba/c adapter and a USBc/a adapter. I bought a usbc/microusb cable so I didn’t have to use an adapter for that.
Yeah - I didn't mean it in a good way. Just that it's easy money for Apple if they want it. Millions of people will just buy the new stuff and if you add USB-C to it = boom, everyone bitching about it in here buys too.
Well it would be a little hypocritical if all the vocal usb-c wanters didn’t replace all their stuff right away.
The European Union is like a logjam on things like this. They wannt all their member nations to be on a “no country left behind” plan. If Apple finds a way to make their phones totally cordless, we’ll see how that goes. It’s bad enough that the UK wants to ban end-to-end encryption on them.
It's more depressing to me to think there are people that actually believe that replacing a keyboard has some direct impact on what the sun is doing. It should depress everyone frankly.
Does anyone know if the EU's USB-C charging legislation extends to laptops? I haven't looked into it myself.
Because as far as I'm concerned, those are the real offenders. Forcing Apple to move away from lightning which is one of the most widely used and popular cables in the world is stupid compared to the rows and rows of laptops at Costco or Best Buy, each of which has its own unique charger. Where is the legislation for that? Apple's laptops having been charging with USB-C for 7 years. How about forcing the crap from Dell, HP, Acer, and Lenovo to do the same.
Yes, it does but - unlike most everything else covered under the new directive, laptops won't have to move over to USB-C until 2026.
Which means we can probably count on them not transitioning until a day before its required.
But at least that's covered. I've never been bothered by the existence of Lightning. I've often been bothered by the 20 different useless laptop chargers for PCs that I have lying around and wouldn't dare plug into a new PC.
USB-C is just a connector: if the underlying controller doesn’t support data speeds above USB2 levels, a USB-C cable is just as slow as a lightning one : iPad 10th gen is a nice example.
Your statement is therefore incorrect.
How do you know?
What is the basis for your claim? Which bureaucrats? How would a change of connector impact timelines for other tech? Do you honestly believe a trillion dollar company would not be able to muster a connector change, which at worst, entails a minor control chip and connector revision?
Let’s first see what the magical wireless unicorn tech entails and what it can do before getting rid of a standard wired connector, lightning, usb-c or otherwise. It’s called being sensible.
Long story short, the upside of USB-C is that there would only be a single connector to worry about, reducing the amount of crap you need to haul around to keep devices charged.
Nothing more, nothing less…
U really think the EU makes laws based on some youtubers?
That would be great for so many more important things we need to solve
Well they certainly don’t do it because of environmentU really think the EU makes laws based on some youtubers?
That would be great for so many more important things we need to solve
Lightning isn't the future. It was great for its time, but USB-C is better in every regard - faster data transfer and charging, plus it's more widely adopted so more devices can use the same cable.
We've gone through this time and time and time again, where people believe there's some conspiracy to upgrade to a new standard. The worst was when Apple switched from 30-pin iPod connectors, the reaction was like there was about to be an armageddon. People were losing their minds because a fragile, slow, non-reversible outdated connection-type was being replaced by something substantially better, and now their accessories would no longer be compatible. That's life. You can't move forwards without letting go of something. With this mentality we'd still be using Winchester drives to load software.
And to be honest with the rate of adoption for wireless charging, I don't imagine USB-C is going to be a massive splash. Yes it's technically better and more convenient which is great, but I know people that have gotten so used to using Qi chargers and MagSafe that the transition to USB-C won't effect them a great deal.
I think the bottom line is it doesn’t really matter because, unless you’re in the 0.001% of users who are content creators that require slightly faster transfer speeds, it’ll make no difference to you. I think the lightning port is more aesthetically pleasing though because there is no tongue in the port so I’d be happy to keep things as they are.
If Apple decided to go fully port-less, which is the future, then I wouldn’t really care either as it’s one less thing that could go wrong with the device.
USB-C is definitely not a selling point for the iPhone 15 as no one outside of this forum gives a damn about it.
If Apple decided to go fully port-less, which is the future, then I wouldn’t really care either as it’s one less thing that could go wrong with the device.
USB-C is definitely not a selling point for the iPhone 15 as no one outside of this forum gives a damn about it.
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Seems good that the legislation isn’t exclusively wedded to USB-C as the forever standard, but it also sounds like this could definitely chill innovation.
The flip side, of course, is that Apple doesn’t actually seem to care about any standard here (even within their own product lines, which is the point of greatest aggravation in most of these forum threads).
On the whole, I guess I wish there was more clarity regarding how a cable would gain approval/notoriety sufficient to become the new standard, but I’m glad that my next iPhone and AirPods will likely have the same cable as my iPads and MacBooks.
And I won’t cry too much for Apple…they still have three different types of MagSafe chargers 🫠
The flip side, of course, is that Apple doesn’t actually seem to care about any standard here (even within their own product lines, which is the point of greatest aggravation in most of these forum threads).
On the whole, I guess I wish there was more clarity regarding how a cable would gain approval/notoriety sufficient to become the new standard, but I’m glad that my next iPhone and AirPods will likely have the same cable as my iPads and MacBooks.
And I won’t cry too much for Apple…they still have three different types of MagSafe chargers 🫠
Lightning ports like most ports have a tendency to break and not function correctly. All ports are a problem. People just want USB-C because it’s the hottest thing. But honestly the best solution is to be portless in as possible. I was a lightning connector person from the original iPhone 5s I’ve been one upped my 14 promax among iPads. My feeling is ports are a waste
Perfect connector would be Lightning build with usb-c speeds.
Apple really well designed it in terms of dual-side benefits which usb-c inherited and strength of female port which is poor on usb-c (look over middle part which might break over time and already causes looses).
About thead question - Apple was greedy for 💸 so it was accepted by people😅
Apple really well designed it in terms of dual-side benefits which usb-c inherited and strength of female port which is poor on usb-c (look over middle part which might break over time and already causes looses).
About thead question - Apple was greedy for 💸 so it was accepted by people😅
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I specified modern USB-C, which is the implementation of USB 4 at 40 Gbit/s and currently limited to the Type-C connector. It greatly exceeds the current maximum speed of any existing Lightning implementation, which I believe maxes out at USB 3 speeds in its fastest existing implementation.
"Apple may have been playing it out"
I used "may" to indicate that I was speculating, engaging in a hypothetical, guessing at possible future things Apple might be moving toward. For all I know, Apple was planning to make that first statement factually incorrect and increase Lightning speeds to 40 Gbit/s. But that seems unlikely. Personally, I expect Apple wants to move toward fewer ports, fewer movable parts, fewer ingress points for dust & water. But again, that's speculation, I've not seen a product roadmap.
There have been many articles about the EU mandating USB-C, such as these:
EU rules to force USB-C chargers for all phones
Manufacturers could be forced to change devices to a uniform charging system.
www.bbc.com
Why the EU forcing Apple to adopt USB-C would be a bad thing
When good intentions get in the way of good outcomes
www.androidpolice.com
If you're referring to the age of the USB-C connector, I admit, my source was Wikipedia.
USB-C - Wikipedia
In essence, I agree, although I'm optimistic great things await us in the future of wireless technology as long as inventors and manufacturers are able to create and innovate freely without being locked into particular existing technologies by mandate.
Yeah, going portless seems best to me as well. Ports, no matter the type, are weak points in weather proofing and susceptible to wear. I've had a couple Thunderbolt/Type-C ports become loose and unusable on MacBook Pro. Debris can get into lightning ports and into both ports and connectors on USB-C.
TBH, since I got a MagSafe phone (13), I've plugged the phone in with a cable once. A couple weeks ago when my MagSafe charger wasn't handy for charging. Between iCloud and AirDrop, data transfers haven't been a problem.
That to me is the key; whilst technically USB C is superior (ie faster data transfer speeds, higher charging rates), it's the widespread adoption that makes USB C more useful. Bar specific Apple products, USB C is found on many devices. Heck, my new electric beard trimmer chargers via USB C!
With USB C's widespread adoption, it's quite nice being able to charge multiple devices using 1 cable...devices such as phones, laptops, tablets, earbuds, headphones, battery banks etc etc
Personally, the lightning cable and connector have been reliable for me. Never experienced a broken Apple lightning cable nor a broken lightning port. The main issue is bar specific Apple products, essentially no-one else uses lightning, which makes lightning increasingly obsolete...
Enlighten usWell they certainly don’t do it because of environment
That cockney rebel dude or whatever his name is, is contender for the best poster on MR.
he makes a million posts about not using his AW enough, not liking it enough, how he can’t stop buying bands for it, and how he should just get rid of it, then the very next day he’s replying to the “show off your Apple Watch” thread and is saying he’s been looking at buying the modern buckle for the AW 🙄🙄