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OnceUGoMac said:
I was taught in MO. My girlfriend was taught the same as well (she's from IL).

We were taught as the following:

Billy said, "I love my Mac."

Billy claims to be a "mac fanatic".

That's what I was taught in Canada. The logic is easy to understand -- when you're quoting a whole sentence, include it's punctuation.
 
I got a C- on my Social Studies essay paper because my teacher was angry I didn't double-space after sentences, otherwise I would have received a C+. :mad:
 
Whatever happened to Lindsay Lohan? She was adorable in 'Parent Trap' and showed a fine comic timing.

Now it's all late night partying, are they real/are they fake? bitching about another non-entity hacking her Blackberry, etc...

Pfft! ;)
 
EricNau said:
That letter was poorly written and unprofessional. It would go straight through my shredder.
Tanglewood said:
I agree, it makes it hard to take the letter seriously.

What was wrong with the letter? I thought it was appropriate for its intended recipient - a spoiled brattish not terribly intelligent 19 year old.

It was short, clear, and to the point.

It described her behaviour, her excuses, stated why they weren't acceptable, the effects of her behaviour, the desired remedy, and the consequences if the remedy wasn't followed.

Honestly, I'm puzzled as to what you felt was wrong with it.

I follow Mark Twain in preferring short and simple letters rather than nightmarish convoluted emails and offical missives (had to deal with many of theses from one collegue a few years ago).
 
I used to like Lindsay Lohan, but when she started losing weight she got less attractive to me. Lindsay looks best around 2 years ago when she wasn't the smallest girl in the world, but she was a stick. Plus I prefer Red heads over brunettes or blondes anyday of the week. :D
 
Blue Velvet said:

"Apparently" would be it. Island these days is Yet Another Universal Subsidiary, and Universal haven't dropped her. So this is a lot of noise about nothing.

[ & more: The Sun got it wrong, Island did release "Speak" in the UK and managed so sell about 11K copies. That's not a weekly number, that's total. ouch. ]
 
iSaint said:
hrmm, I still do.

But, they need to include the . inside the close quotes.

You're correct. I noticed that the period needs to be inside the quotes too. And I always double-space. In fact, I didn't know that some people only single-space. When did that start?
 
tweakers_suck said:
In fact, I didn't know that some people only single-space. When did that start?


Just look at any magazine, publication. As someone already posted, designers always take out DS when given copy.

And don't get me started on the use of hyphens and en dashes!!
 
Off topic first:

I double space after a period.
I also tend to put a space between paragraphs.
I don't care about white rivers. Anyone who is jarred by seeing it needs to get themselves examined.

On topic:

I'm glad the studio exec sent out this letter and I'm glad it was made public. More studio execs need to do it and start putting it in actors/actresses contracts that they'll pay if they drop the ball. Actors and actresses seem to believe they rule the world. I think they need a constant reminder that there are people with more power, money, and influence than them and if they see fit, these actors and actresses can be replaced with very little sleep loss.

Off topic:
!!!wtf0MGBBQ11!!111. (Notice the double space)Bahhhhhhh!!!1..
 
Malfoy said:
I double space after a period.
I also tend to put a space between paragraphs.
I don't care about white rivers. Anyone who is jarred by seeing it needs to get themselves examined.


Obviously not in the design field then, if you had to read a mag or book with double spaces, bad type layout, widows, rivers etc then you would complain that it is difficult to follow. Para spaces are generally fine.

But if you then you are only doing letters or email I suppose it does not matter that much.
 
Raven VII said:
Hmm, you people do know that when you post all the double spaces is eliminated right?

Apparently not.

It serves to illustrate my earlier point that those who claim double spacing eases comprehension tend not to notice that nearly everything they read is actually single-spaced.
 
And it also serves to illustrate that many posting to this thread are struggling with reading comprehension.

Or just reading.

The thread.
 
Does everyone know what PWNED means?

Am I the only person in this thread who doesn't know the meaning of the word "pwned," or am I just the only one replying to ask?

I thought about it for a while and figured it might mean "Presented with Notice!" but then I decided to Google it, and it brought me to an Urban Dictionary definition that attributes it to some sort of videogame or other (Warcraft or Quake) as a misspelling for the word "owned," sorta like "Gotcha!" I guess.

How do you pronounce it, though? P-W-N'd? Poned?

And as far as how many spaces should go after a sentence, typesetters used one space after sentences for hundreds of years before typewriters came along. It was only with the advent of the monospaced typewriter font that it seemed necessary to insert two spaces after a stop. There's no need to do it on a computer with a variable-width font. I don't even think it's necessary with a monospaced font... at least I don't bother to, anyway.

I learned to type with two spaces between sentences but changed my ways when the Internet came along. I figured why waste my keystrokes if my one of my spaces is going to be ignored anyway! :) Plus, I saw the light when I took a look at how nicely a single space does the trick in a variable-width font.

As far as Lindsay Lohan is concerned, I have to say I really enjoyed her child and teen movies such as Parent Trap and Mean Girls, and I do believe the girl/woman has talent! I also think she was a pretty girl and a fetching ("Stop trying to make 'fetch' happen! 'Fetch' is not happening!") young lady. She plays such "together" young women it's hard to reconcile that with her behavior. Then again, my behavior hasn't always been perfect; it just wasn't broadcast to the world. I hope she gets through this difficult time without killing herself, really. I thought she was looking healthier, and then now she looks skinny and sickly again. I wish her well!
 
Blue Velvet said:
Yeah right. Thus speaks the authority on typography. :rolleyes:

I have to back up Blue on this one. You may not notice the rivers or double spaces consciously, but haven't you opened a textbook or magazine and seen a massive amount of text, and just felt overwhelmed. And you skip reading the article. Rivers make it harder to read and the additional space between sentences interrupts the flow. Subconsciously, this does have an affect on you, and good design/typography tries to alleviate this affect.
 
thedude110 said:
Man. What are they teaching you out in Illinois?
It's not unusual at all.

My daughter (education major about to begin her senior year at college) gives me her papers to vet before she turns them in. Among other errors, I note places where she didn't space her sentences consistently. Apparently she too has been taught to double-space. I point out the few single spaces to her, she changes them, hands the papers in, and has never once been dinged for poor punctuation. On the contrary, she gets good remarks about the technical quality of her reports.
 
I don't care what any of you say, if I had the opportunity to meet LINDSAAAAAAAAAAy I would love to. :D ;)
 
I personally think shes ugly and overrated.

But thats just my opinion.

I'm really tired of hearing about Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, and all those other oxymorons.
 
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