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Use to work for both Time Warner and Comcast. I'd highly suggest NOT going with a 2 in 1 combo.

Cable modems are sensitive hardware. There are often minor power fluctuations within the cable system and these can cause your modem to be damaged (resulting in fun stuff like flapping, microrefractions, and more), which can lead to service issues.

When you rent a modem from the cable company, they replace it when it blows out. The other option is to buy an inexpensive one (about $100), though with the rate many people go through them, they may never recoup the price.

At least with a standalone router, you don't have to replace 2 pieces of expensive hardware should there be any flux on your line.
Thanks for that insight. It had seemed like a nice desk de-cluttering option.
 
I don't mean to question Linksys's expertise in decent networking hardware, but DOCSIS 3.0 -compliance is... ancient by today's standards. And so is USB 2.0...

That's right it's strange to release this just as DOCSIS 3.1 starts rolling out. In AUS all cable modems provided by the National Broadband Network are DOCSIS 3.1 now for future proofing (this one: http://www.arris.com/products/touchstone-cm8200-cable-modem/)
 
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I honestly can't take your post as serious, nor truthful. It's an opinion at best. One anecdotal opinion about Linksys says nothing in terms of what it's capable of. And there support has been stellar with ANY issues I have encountered, which says milestones about the Company.


1. It's my opinion, I later on in another post stated just that.

2. Go read my other posts in this thread.

3. Read Weaselboy #17 post, and another one from AZMecha #22, yes I am aware that's just 2 more "opinions"

4. As I stated before in another post, very few have Linksys here, for a reason.

Side note: Most people don't have Cable modems here, there's a lot of fiber and DSL.

Except for the major UDP loss issue on the EdgeRouter.

Oh, one issue.:rolleyes:
 
Buy better hardware I guess?

I bought an $80 modem 3.5 years ago, haven't had a single problem with it (Motorola Surfboard SB6141)

Line fluctuations aren't an issue everywhere. But some neighborhoods will see them far more than others.

I'm saying this as someone who saw thousands of failed modems.
 
Oh, one issue.:rolleyes:
It is one major issue. At its core, it's a router and it loses a very large percentage of UDP packets. In my case, it's around 98% over IPv4 and IPv6. Since DNS rides over UDP, it can affect basic Internet browsing.

My Linksys EA8500 loses around 0.1%. My point is that even though you say Linksys is crap, it does some of its duties better than the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter, even though they state it is enterprise grade. Frankly, with this UDP issue, I wouldn't trust it outside of a home envrionment.

Even if very few members have Linksys, you can't use that as an authoritative statement on the quality of their products. You're on an Apple-centric board, so you're likely to find Apple gear.
 
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I'm not a fan of the 2 in 1 bundles hardware as I'd rather spend more money for a state of the art router. Cable Modems are just not that exotic to worry about..
 
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I bought a cablemodem from Amazon 3 years ago and it paid for itself in 10 months.
Money well spent.

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That's right it's strange to release this just as DOCSIS 3.1 starts rolling out. In AUS all cable modems provided by the National Broadband Network are DOCSIS 3.1 now for future proofing (this one: http://www.arris.com/products/touchstone-cm8200-cable-modem/)
Got a proprietary gateway modem here in DE as well... Internals are made by Arris though too: DOCSIS 3.1 - compliant and running at 400 mbps as we speak,with plenty of headroom left for future GBit - connections.

I have really no idea why this article was worth a mention, since DOCSIS 3.0 is a... Wait... 10 years old standard now? But ARRIS seems to know how to make them for quite some time now, yet no one talks about them :/
 
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Use to work for both Time Warner and Comcast. I'd highly suggest NOT going with a 2 in 1 combo.

Cable modems are sensitive hardware. There are often minor power fluctuations within the cable system and these can cause your modem to be damaged (resulting in fun stuff like flapping, microrefractions, and more), which can lead to service issues.

When you rent a modem from the cable company, they replace it when it blows out. The other option is to buy an inexpensive one (about $100), though with the rate many people go through them, they may never recoup the price.

At least with a standalone router, you don't have to replace 2 pieces of expensive hardware should there be any flux on your line.
I dunno, I have had my SB6143 for a few years now, easily paying for itself
 
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Living in the UK, it's bizarre that this is news. Pretty much all ISPs over here (we have one national Cable ISP and many DSL-based ISPs) bundle a combined modem and wireless router and have done for probably ten years. There is no separate fee to rent your router, it's just expected as part of your monthly broadband fee.
 
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Use to work for both Time Warner and Comcast. I'd highly suggest NOT going with a 2 in 1 combo.

Cable modems are sensitive hardware. There are often minor power fluctuations within the cable system and these can cause your modem to be damaged (resulting in fun stuff like flapping, microrefractions, and more), which can lead to service issues.

When you rent a modem from the cable company, they replace it when it blows out. The other option is to buy an inexpensive one (about $100), though with the rate many people go through them, they may never recoup the price.

At least with a standalone router, you don't have to replace 2 pieces of expensive hardware should there be any flux on your line.


I would suggest the same thing. Just sold a friend a spare modem I no longer need plus a spare router in order to help him stop renting and save the money.

I think buying a modem versus renting pays for itself much fast than you may think.

I paid just over $80 shipped for the highest rated docsis 3.0 Motorola cable modem on amazon and was able to cancel renting for Comcast's $10 charge monthly. So 8-9 months I am getting money back in my pocket.
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Living in the UK, it's bizarre that this is news. Pretty much all ISPs over here (we have one national Cable ISP and many DSL-based ISPs) bundle a combined modem and wireless router and have done for probably ten years. There is no separate fee to rent your router, it's just expected as part of your monthly broadband fee.


The combo modem/router is not news. It's more that linksys just introduced their first cable modem combo (whereas they already have had dsl combos for a very long time.).
 
Use to work for both Time Warner and Comcast. I'd highly suggest NOT going with a 2 in 1 combo.

Cable modems are sensitive hardware. There are often minor power fluctuations within the cable system and these can cause your modem to be damaged (resulting in fun stuff like flapping, microrefractions, and more), which can lead to service issues.

When you rent a modem from the cable company, they replace it when it blows out. The other option is to buy an inexpensive one (about $100), though with the rate many people go through them, they may never recoup the price.

At least with a standalone router, you don't have to replace 2 pieces of expensive hardware should there be any flux on your line.
The new Cable Company rentals are combination modem/routers, now $12 per month. Just got a new replacement with updated hardware and software for the 14 month old one. My track record is less then a year and half before replacement. At that point, most are outdated and the Cable Company willing to replace it. For me the rental is a push with piece of mind when issues arise, not my gears fault.
 
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Often times buying a cable modem so you don't have a leasing fee will pay for itself within the 1 year warranty period of the device.
I agree plus it is usually faster then comcast stuff. mine asked till my wife accidentally watered it (G) now getting anew one hooked up is dirt easy plug it in run a cable directly to your computer and open a browser
 
First sentence is a lie. See linksys model wcg200. Was a very nice product and seemed to sell well when Wireless G was the king.




Linksys today introduced its first 2-in-1 wireless router and cable modem. The emphasis should be on "cable" in that sentence, as Linksys already sells a handful of routers with built-in DSL modems for internet over a telephone line.

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The Linksys CG7500 supports many of the latest wireless standards, including 802.11ac Wi-Fi, IPv6, and beamforming technology. The AC1900-speed router has 3X3 internal dual-band 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz antennas, 24x8 channels, four Gigabit Ethernet ports for high-speed wired connections, and one USB 2.0 port.

The modem is DOCSIS 3.0 certified, meaning it is compatible with Comcast Xfinity and Charter Spectrum in the United States, and many other major cable providers, for internet plans with theoretical speeds of up to 300 Mbps. Linksys says it can be used with 12+ devices at once without any lag or buffering.

2-in-1 modems and routers are often considered worse than a separate router and modem combination, but the CG7500 is worth considering for anyone that wants to stop renting a modem from their cable company. For most people, it'll likely provide good enough Wi-Fi in a medium-sized house or apartment.

Linksys is accepting pre-orders for the CG7500 on its website for $199.97 in the United States. It'll be available from Amazon, Best Buy, B&H, Micro Center, New Egg, Office Depot, Target, Walmart, Fry's, and Meijer on May 15.

Competing 2-in-1 options include the NETGEAR AC1900 Nighthawk for around the same price of $198.99, and the Arris SURFboard SBG6900-AC with a reduced 16x4 channels for a current sale price of $167.99 (regular $199.99).

Article Link: Linksys Debuts Its First 2-in-1 Cable Modem and Wi-Fi Router
 
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Cable modems are sensitive hardware. There are often minor power fluctuations within the cable system and these can cause your modem to be damaged (resulting in fun stuff like flapping, microrefractions, and more), which can lead to service issues.

When you rent a modem from the cable company, they replace it when it blows out. The other option is to buy an inexpensive one (about $100), though with the rate many people go through them, they may never recoup the price.

I have never heard this argument before, though it makes sense. I have been using my own for over 5 years with no issue. I imagine it might be something more common in certain cable systems vs others. If the hardware and cabling isn't well managed it might lead to issues.

The other argument to make is DOCSIS, Ethernet, and WiFi all evolve at different rates and times, and there maybe some new spec you want and just need to upgrade one component. This is especially true since decent routers seems to be >$150 and not $40

This is why I think Fiber is a better choice hands down, since it isn't prone to some of the issues with line shortages, etc that legacy things like Coax and phone lines are.
 
I have never heard this argument before, though it makes sense. I have been using my own for over 5 years with no issue. I imagine it might be something more common in certain cable systems vs others. If the hardware and cabling isn't well managed it might lead to issues.

The other argument to make is DOCSIS, Ethernet, and WiFi all evolve at different rates and times, and there maybe some new spec you want and just need to upgrade one component. This is especially true since decent routers seems to be >$150 and not $40

This is why I think Fiber is a better choice hands down, since it isn't prone to some of the issues with line shortages, etc that legacy things like Coax and phone lines are.

Cable providers run fiber from the hub to the node (local neighborhood distribution point). It's only cable from there to the home, though you're right, fiber all the way is a better option. Sadly, it'll be years before we see fiber make its way into most of the country.
 
Sadly, it'll be years before we see fiber make its way into most of the country.

I have given up hoping US carrier will deploy fiber to the premise, my city in Southern NH had Fios in 2005 and here we are over 10 years later and no more closer to that. Even google fiber has halted expansion.

Carriers took US taxpayers money to expand infrastructure and squandered it.


At this point I am looking to relocate outside the US to get better internet.
 
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